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June 28



Todayinah Editor Editor says, the Sarajevo crisis was suposed to ignite the world into a 4 year war that would devastate much of Europe. But what if it didn't? muses Steven Fisher. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1914, on this day the heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, Archduke Ferdinand of Austria and his wife Sofia were assassinated at Sarajevo, the provincial capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina, by Gavrilo Princip, a member of Young Bosnia and one of a group of assassins organized by the Black Hand.

The Last Chance for Peace #1 By Steven FisherThe Sarajevo crisis was suposed to ignite the world into a 4 year war that would devastate much of Europe. But what if it didn't? What if, in the dwindling lgiht, when it looked like war was certain, the determination of one man prevented a continent wide conflict.

Bethmann-Hollweg, the German Foreign Minister and an avid Anglophile, realized that Count Berchtold had double crossed him and was courting disaster. Knowing what he had to do, he recalled Wilhelm from his cruise early, to stop the crisis. After many arguments, he convinced Wilhelm to withdraw the "Blank Cheque", and declare neutrality in this conflict. Wilhelm agreed, and a proclamation was issued later that day that Germany would not be mobilizing in the defense of Austria.

With Germany staying out, France takes a limited position in the war, and WW1 stays as an isolated war between Austria and Russia, ensuring that the German Reich survives. Austria Hungary falls in a three-year war with Russia, fragmenting the Balkans, who slowly polarize around Germany and Russia. The Balkans light the fires of WW1, a war with more advanced tech, and a forknowledge of the impenetrable defense. The world feels the flames of war once again, but this time there is no knowing when they will die out. The whole thread is available at the Alt History Wikia.


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Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2011-11-21 12:54:36 ~ Doesn't work. A straight Austro-Russian war destroys AH and leads to a truly isolated Germany diplomatically. However Germany could have refused to attack France and adopted a defensive attitude in the East. War end in 1915 after Belgrade falls.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2011-11-21 13:19:16 ~ AH destroyed=Germany picks up a lot of it.

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-11-21 14:52:53 ~ Scott, I think you've head it head-on. I wonder what a shorter war leaving an intact Russia would mean for the October Revolution in 1917: does it happen at all, or is it simply delayed? I fall on the side of a simple delay and I believe the Czar's days were numbered regardless.

Readers Comment Brian Wall commented on 2011-11-21 15:28:39 ~ Scott, not necessarily. It seems in this TL that Germany is somewhat closer to the UK before war even breaks outs. And if Germany sits out this WWI, it may earn some good grace from France, maybe selling them some arms? And if Germany doesn't invade Belgium, then relations with the UK either remain as is, or maybe even improve a bit. I could see after the war is over and AH collapses, that Russia is viewed as the new 'bad guy' of Europe, just 25 years or earlier then it happened in our TL.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-11-21 18:20:54 ~ Would Russia have been able to do as well against A-H without the Western Allies? Their war effort was incredibly shambolic, IIRC; men were sent forward unarmed and told to take rifles from the dead. And some of the nationalities of the Hapsburg Empire (Poles, forex) were more than eager to tangle with the Russians.

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-11-21 19:13:30 ~ Without WWI I'd not have an awsome German Helmet collection :)

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-11-22 00:07:45 ~ I can't really see Germany sidelining itself. The interlocking alliances which created the Central Powers bloc would have more or less forced Wilhelm II to get involved.

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-11-22 01:01:19 ~ The idea was taken in part from a telegram that Bethmann sent to the German Embassy in Vienna, which said, "Serbia has in fact met the Austrian demands in so wide-sweeping a manner that if the Austro-Hungarian government adopted a wholly uncompromising attitude, a gradual revulsion of public opinion against it in all of Europe would have to be reckoned with." Diplomatic language couldn't put it better. Austria-Hungary was going to war in a bad cause, at least to the Germans. The honorable way out was there if they wanted it. So what if they had taken it? This is what the story explores. Russia can get weapons through the Dardanelles, helping tyheir supply situation. The Austrians can get guns from the Germans, who definitely don't want to see a total Russian victory, but don't want to get in a major war not of their choosing. They want to make sure they have the moral high ground.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-11-22 15:58:15 ~ As Russia grew in strength, everyone else would panic about the shift of power, Germany and its UK ally would be brought into war soon enough (over Poland, Finland?) with France caught up alongside. What would've happened to the Ottomans?



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May 8



Todayinah Editor Editor says, the Sarajevo crisis was suposed to ignite the world into a 4 year war that would devastate much of Europe. But what if it didn't? muses Steven Fisher. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1916, on this day Romania declared war on Austria Hungary, joining the side of Russia in the Third Balkan War, and opening up another important front.
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The Last Chance for Peace #2 By Steven FisherThe war had been raging for two years, and both Austria-Hungary and Russia continued to battle, with neither having a decisive victory. The Austrians had pursued a bleeding defense strategy against Russia, standing on the defensive in the East while they attempted to secure their flank by conquering Serbia. The battle had mainly been fought in the Hungarian province of Galicia, where the Dual Monarchy hinged its defenses on the San River. The Russians forced this river line, but were unable to make headway against the Austrian defenses in the Caprathian Mountains. With the failure to force the Austrian defenses, the Russians turned towards influencing Romania to join their side in the war, while the Austrians focused on Bulgaria.

The Russians knew that if they could have Romania join their side in the war, then they could outflank the Austrian defenses on the Carpathian Mountains and flood inner Hungary with troops. They could also use an overland route to reinforce their faltering Serbian ally, who was coming under increasing pressure fromn the Dual Monarchy. They promised the Romanians that they will recieve Translyvania from a defeated Austria-Hungary, and will recieve generous financial support from the Russians. Eventually, the Romanians agree to join the war on the side of Russia.

However, the war had marched on. Bulgaria had joined the war on the side of the Dual Monarcy, in an attempt to exact revenge on Serbia for their defeat in the Second Balkan War. With pressure from the Bulgarians and Austria-Hungary, Serbia had fallen. The Serbian Army had evacuated to Korfu, and had then joined the Russian troops in Galicia. When Romania joined the war, massed russian armies slammed into the unprepared Austrian defense lines. From this point onwards, the war would continually turn in Russia's favor, as the Austrians were stretched further and further. They also fell on economic hard times as they attempted to support thew war effort.

The war would last for one more year, as the Austrians desperately tried to stabilize the situation on the Romanian front. However, the death of Franz Joseph I and the continued defeats, destroyed the morale of the army, and under the pressure of a Russian offensive, it began dissolving around itself. Commanders were unable to stop it, and Austria-Hungary is forced to sue for peace in 1917. During this time, Turkey also declares war on Bulgaria in what is seen as an opportunistic move to gain territory.

The peace treaty will hurt Austria-Hungary hard. They will lose segments of territory to Russia, Romania, and will give up the northern territories of Bosnia and Herzegovina. They will also be forced to pay Serbia for the damages that they dealt to her. It will be a cost that Austria-Hungary cannot bear. By the end of the year, the Dual Monarchy will have collapsed under civil unrest, military defeat in the war, and economic hardship.
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Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2011-11-27 13:31:48 ~ A pure Austro-Russian war even without Serbia produces a Russian total victory within a year. With Serbia more like 4-6 months.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-11-27 19:02:19 ~ While declaring war makes more sense for Romania in this TL than in OTL, they'd still do better to sit it out and sell both sides things.

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2011-11-27 20:41:23 ~ I could see a militaristic Germany waiting this war out and making an attempt to be the major European power once Austria-Hungary and Russia bled each other dry...

Readers Comment Tom Bornholdt commented on 2011-11-28 00:00:58 ~ Some Alt Historian whose work I previously liked a lot did something similar in a TL (on another forum) and ended up having first the Habsburgs and then the Romanovs overthrown. I criticized him roundly for this and we have been barey amicable ever since.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-11-28 08:33:56 ~ And why would Germany stay out of this war? And then, why would France?

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-11-28 15:27:53 ~ Actually, I forgot to put it in, but the French deployed an expeditionary force to Serbia to help them out, but it wasn't a significant force. And the Germans stayed out because they realized that joining this war would make them look bad in the eyes of the world, since it seems that Austrias-Hungary is the aggressor here.



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December 27



Todayinah Editor Editor says, the Sarajevo crisis was suposed to ignite the world into a 4 year war that would devastate much of Europe. But what if it didn't? muses Steven Fisher. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1917, on this day Emperor Karl I abdicated the throne of the Habsburg Monarchy, heralding the dissolution of the Dual Monarchy.
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The Last Chance for Peace #3 By Steven FisherDomestic turmoil in Austria-Hungary had been steadily increasing ever since the signing of the Treaty of Berlin on August 2. The devastating Austrian defeat in the Third Balkan war, and the harsh terms given to it by the Russians, had greatly increased peoples dissatisfaction with the government. This, combined with a faltering Austro-Hungarian economy had turned people against the Habsburg Monarchy.

An unusually harsh winter, combined with the already existing economic deprivation, finally lit the tinderbox of revolution. On December 19, people took to the streets of Vienna, calling for an end to the Monarchy. The army and police were sent to stop them, but to the governments horror, some army units and policemen began siding with the rebels. The riots quickly spread from Vienna to the other parts of the Empire. Clashes began between protesters and army troops. But defecting troops managed to turn the tide in favor of the protestors, since many in the army blame the current government for getting them into a losing war, and having them fight for nothing. A loyalist Army group moving to attempt to rescue the King from his palace in Vienna is defeated in heavy street fighting.

Finally, the Republican forces break into the palace in Vienna, and force Karl I to abdicate the Habsburg throne. The Austro-Hungarian Empire is dissolved, with Austria and Hungary both breaking off and forming the Austrian Federation and the Republic of Hungary. Ethnic minorities in both nations attempt to break off and form their own nations, such as the Czechs in Austria, but their attempts fail. The Austrians are more compromising, and form a federation within which the Czechs have some autonomy.

The peace was not to last though. On January 2, 1918, the Italians announce the annexation of Trentino, and march troops into the region. International condemnation of the move does occur, but the Italians brush it off by saying that they are taking this action to protect the Italaians living in the region, who they claim are suffering oppression from the Austrian authorities. The Austrians vehemently oppose this act, but cannot do anyhting, as their people are unwilling to fight a war.

Their inability to prevent the annexation of Trentino would spell the end of the Austrian government. On May 19, the Austrian military coups the government, establishing a German backed military dicatorship under Conrad Von Hotzendorf. It heralds the beginning of the poalrization around the powers of Russia and Germany, a situation that will inflame tensions between the two nations, and be a cause of World War 1 in 1921.
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Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-12-01 07:24:27 ~ Conrad would never betray his crown. Never. Trust me, this is my period. Austria collapsed because it was defeated on the Salonika front -- something we're not supposed to talk about anymore.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-12-01 15:16:17 ~ A later WWI might work out very much in Germany's favor, especially if they kept at the edge of the war-technology race.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-12-02 00:42:14 ~ I'm not sure that most nationalities wanted the Empire dissolved---it had a lot of useful things about it, like a big de-facto customs union in S. Central Europe and a brake on German expansionism.

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-12-02 15:19:51 ~ Stan, Conrad didn't betray the crown. He took over the Republic in a coup. The army had marched out to prevent the revolution, but parts of the army defected to the side of the rioters. The Republic tiself fell because the Italians had seized Trentino and the Republic didn't do anything about it. And Eric, you might be right about that. But I was just thinking of the fact that the Empire just got it's butt kicked by the Russians. A lot of Hungary got ruined in the war, and they're angry at the Monarchy for that happening. The economy is going down the drain due to inflation from massive spending to fund the war. They just lost land to the Russians, the Serbians, and the Romanians, and they have to pay some handy reparations. And then there's the weather.



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March 15



Todayinah Editor Editor says, the Sarajevo crisis was suposed to ignite the world into a 4 year war that would devastate much of Europe. But what if it didn't? muses Steven Fisher. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1919, on this day Russian troops crossed the border into Socialist Hungary after the rejection of a Russian ultimatum, marking the beginning of the Ten Week War.
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The Last Chance for Peace #4 By Steven FisherThe direct cause of the war was establishment of a socialist government in Hungary. Another harsh winter had rocked the Balkan region,and had further harmed the popularity of the Hungarian government. In the bitter cold, radical elements had decided to make their move. On February 7, the Hungarian government was overthrown, and a new government was put in power with the socialist Bela Kun as it's head. In the weeks following Kuns rise to power, he set about establishing his brand of socialism on the Hungarian population.

The Russian government looked on Kun's activity in alarm. A sucessful socialist state in Hungary would surely inflame radical elements in Russia. the decision was made to remove Kun's government through force. the Russian army massed on the Hungarian border, in preparation for the invasion. The Hungarians saw this large marshalling of force, and began their own mass mobilization, and began preparations for fierce resistance of a Russian invasion.

Things finally came to a head on March 1, when the Russian government sent an ultimatum to the Hungrian government, demanding the dissolvement of the socialist government, and the turning over of Bela Kun to Russian authorities for trial on charges of terrorism. When these demands were rejected, the Russians declared war.

Russian troops under Aleksei Brusilov crossed the Hungarian border, but only made it a few miles before Hungarian defenses brought their drive to a halt. As the Russians geared up to crack the Hungarian defenses, they were caught by large-scale peasant uprisings, armed by the hungarians and demanding greater freedom, and by a sharp Hungarian offensive. While Russian troops crushed the revolts, the Hungarian offenasive was skillfully fought to a halt by Brusilov.

With the return of Russian troops who had been dispatched to crush the revolts, Brusilov initiated his offensive. The Hungarian defense lines crumbled under overwhelming Russian force, and the Hungarian Army continually had to fall back. The offensive slowed when the Hungarians drew Brusilov into a devastating city battle in Budapest. However, Brusilov managed to encircle Budapest, mitigating the amount of casualities that the Russians took.

The End came quickly for the hungarians. After a coup attempt against the socialist government, Bela Kun knew that nothing would stop the Russians. Diplomatic efforts to involve the Germans had failed, since the Kaiser didn't want to see a sucessful socialist state either. Kun fled the nation through austria to Switzerland, where he took up residence with Lenin and other socialist exiles. The new Hungarian government sued for peace, and the war ended on May 24.

With peace, a Pro-Russian government was set up in Hungary. This contributed to the increasing polarization of the Balkans, especially when the Balkan Entente between Hungary, Romania, Serbia, and Russia was set up later that year. It would be especially important when World War One started in 1921.
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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-12-03 19:39:58 ~ Is this Socialist Hungary in what we'd call "Hungary proper," or the old Kingdom of Hungary? If the latter, keep in mind that Magyars were actually a minority, and not popular with a lot of their subject nationalities.

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-12-03 22:01:47 ~ The old kingdom, separated from Austria. Bela Kun toted equality of all ethnicities as part of his socialist platform. That, and the fact that he wasn't part of the ruling government gives him a great appeal. Once he is in power, he does do what he says, and makes things more equal for all the ethnic groups in Hungary. However, once the Russians take over again, the repression returns, with Russian troops to back it up

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-12-04 01:05:02 ~ Lenin may not live long enough to have big effect on a spent Russia. Curious to see how the country will shape up on the latter WWI.

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-12-04 20:00:35 ~ fortunately for him, Lenin manages to live longer without having to build a nation, and without nearly being assassinated a couple times.



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