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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Ronald Reagan had won in 1976? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the April 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1980, as part of a special operation known as Operation Owl Flight, U.S Army Rangers entered Iranian Air Space, Avoiding detection and subsequently reaching the American Embassy and rescuing all 52 hostages (who were soon returned to the United States). Article from the Reagan wins in 1976 thread.

Operation Owl FlightBut unfortunately for the White House, the triumph of the operation is too late to rescue the Presidency of Ronald Reagan.

By 1980, his popularity had eroded, and after a hard fought campaign he lost re-election to California Governor Jerry Brown. Because a month before, Brown had received the nomination at the GOP National Convention held at the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Michigan. Ironically, in defeating Gerald Ford in 1976, Reagan had become the first person to do take the nomination from an incumbent president since James Buchanan in 1856. Now he had suffered the same fate at the hands of his successor as Governor of California (and now as the fortieth US President) Edmund Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in authoring this post we have re-purposed content from the Alternate History and the Wikipedia web sites.


Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2013-03-25 12:13:10 ~ And Jerry is a Republican? In this timeline, I guess his term as CA governor really was "Ronald Reagan's third term".

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2013-03-25 13:48:16 ~ Didn't Brown kind of tilt far left on most issues?

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2013-04-11 09:18:54 ~ These turncoats, anything to win office. I have heard seemingly right wing GOPs speak very leftish when they thought no one was listening.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-04-11 11:48:16 ~ I wonder how the rescue would have affected American-Iranian relations.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-04-11 23:11:28 ~ Great point, Mike.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2013-04-12 20:15:26 ~ Jerry Brown? Nawwww. He was way too left wing. He was known among the public, and among Democrats, as Governor Moonbeam. Look up the Rose Bird affair. Perhaps Shriver, perhaps Birch Bayh. I was active in Democratic Party politics at the time, and met most of the candidates in St. Louis in 1976. Sen. Bayh was the best speaker and campaigner by far.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Napoleon had been crowned Holy Roman Emperor? In our timeline, the HRE was abolished by Francis II after the Battle of Austerlitz partly to prevent Napoleon from seizing the throne. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1806, on this day the Holy Roman Emperor Francis II was forced to abdicate in favour of Napoleon Bonaparte following the disastrous defeat of Third Coalition forces at the Battle of Austerlitz.

Napoleon Bonaparte Crowned Holy Roman Emperor
written by Ed and Scott Palter
Founded in 962, the character of the Holy Roman Empire had changed dramatically during the Middle Ages and the Early Modern period, when the power of the emperor gradually weakened in favour of the princes. In its last centuries, its character became quite close to a union of territories, a complex structure whereby the German states were loosely subordinate to an Emperor who was also the Hapsburgh ruler of the biggest/richest territories.

By 1815, the Germanic Prussians, having played a crucial role in the downfall of Napoleon, were unwilling to accept being a subordinate kingdom. And yet Prussia had emerged as a Polish-Swedish set of provinces, a multi-national ethnicity that needed European integration in order to survive.

The Hapsburgs themselves had been strengthened by their expansion into expanded Holland, Belgium and Burgundy. And none of the second rank German states getting strong enough to refuse subordination. The outcome of this interaction of powers was the emergence of a powerful German Confederacy, the putative successor state to the Holy Roman Empire.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-11-01 17:11:58 ~ A Napoleonic European Union? Interesting...

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-11-15 05:39:03 ~ I'd always thought that the HRE was dissolved by order of Napoleon, but combining it with his other conquests under his personal rule would have been interesting. How much actual day-to-day power did the HR Emperor, _qua_ Emperor, actually have?



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the US Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson had not honeymooned in Kyoto? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1945, on this day the US Army Air Force dropped an atomic bomb on the Imperial Capital City of Kyoto killing the Emperor Hirohito as he prepared to break with a centuries-old protocol of official silence by instructing the Japanese Government to accept the Allies terms for unconditional surrender.

MokusatsuAt a similiarly fateful meeting held in Los Alamos on May 10th, a committee chaired by J. Robert Oppenheimer had identified Kyoto, Hiroshima, Yokohama, and the arsenal at Kokuraas as suitable targets for the bomb. When an expert on Japan, Professor Edwin O. Reischauer strongly disagreed with the inclusion of Kyoto his argument forced the "City of Temples" to the top of the list. Because hardliners in the US Government judged that Kyoto was precisely the symbolic target they sought for destruction. In addition, the city was an important centre for military industry, as well an intellectual center. And so the decision was made.

In a sense the hardliners chose well because the US Government surely did succeed in making an unanswerable expression of authority. But the effects on the Empire of Japan were tragically misjudged. Not only was a key voice of moderation removed at a critical juncture, but also a transitional post-war figurehead was eliminated. With the publication of the Sugiyama memo, President Truman later argued (somewhat disengeniously) that the Emperor had the supreme command of the Japanese Army and the Navy and would almost certainly have been executed on the orders of the Tokyo Trials.

Ironically, whilst Hirohito had adopted the traditional protocol of remaining officially silent during the military councils, his commanders had insisted upon a policy of "mokusatsu", treating the Allies demands for surrender with a silent contempt. But now that silence had been broken. Believing that the Allies meant to destroy Japan as a distinct cultural entity, Military High Command abandoned the remaining Home Islands in order to concentrate their still considerable land forces in the defence of the Tokyo Plains.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, who Saved Kyoto? - the credit belongs to Henry L. Stimson, Secretary of War in the Roosevelt and Truman administrations, who twice visited Kyoto in the 1920's, was conscious of its irreplaceable cultural assets and concerned for the postwar reputation of the United States. He committed himself to keeping the city off the target list and stuck to that decision in the face of many who urged its atomic bombing.


Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-08-21 05:14:45 ~ I can go along with a lot of this apart from the last ditch battle out side of Tokyo. I think there's extremely little chance that the Japanese would have "abandoned the remaining Home Islands" given the OTL.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-21 06:33:23 ~ Kyoto wasn't the Imperial capital---it hadn't been since the Meiji Restoration. The Emperor was known to be in Tokyo, but A-bombing Tokyo would have been a bit redundant at that point---good old TNT and napalm had done the same sort of thing, less only the radiation. And Kyoto also didn't have much industry, so bombing it would have been a waste of resources. How about an ATL where the Japanese term "Tenno Heika" gets translated, when contact with the West is reestablished, more like "Japanese Pope?" That was what the early Westerners called the Tenno, when they talked about him at all---at that time, supreme power had been in the hands of the Shoguns for centuries, and the Tennos had been relegated to ceremonial and religious duties. It was a better translation than "Emperor," but since the Tennos had a lot of the same titles as the Chinese Emperors, who _were_ working rulers, it was translated as "Emperor," leading to endless misunderstandings.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-08-21 10:51:56 ~ Actually the Japanese were pursuing a go-for-broke strategy but the intended battlefield was Kyushu. That invasion might well have bled the US dry. Win or lose it would have bled Japan dry of trained men, equipment and munitions.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-08-21 14:19:37 ~ Re Eric Oppen's comment: The fact that the Emperor was known to be in Tokyo was one reason Tokyo was not chosen as an initial target for the A-bomb. The fear was that beheading the Japanese government would have made an orderly surrender far more difficult, requiring either more A-bombings, an invasion after all, or perhaps both. Re Scott Palter'sremarks: No one will ever know how many Americans would have died in an invasion of Japan. Some estimates run as high as a million, but I've seen others as low as 50,000. The high estimates are largely based on the belief current in 1945 that every Japanese man, woman and child would have fought to the death, with teeth and nails if necessary, a proposition I've always found dubious (though many Japanese civilians would have fought, since their government was telling them the Americans meant to wipe them out as a people). The latter estimates are based on the devastated condition of Japan, which would have made continued armed resistance a doomed proposition.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-21 19:12:39 ~ Anyone seen any stats on projected Soviet losses for invasion? It might've been enough manpower to give a very different start to the Cold War.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Hiroshima bomb failed to detonate? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1945, at 8:15 Hiroshima time, the B-29 Enola Gay commanded by Colonel Paul Tibbets dropped a single bomb over the Japanese city.

Experimental US "A" Bomb a Dud It was the lead of three planes, the other two full of instruments and recording devices to see what would come of the experimental "atomic" bomb code named "Little Boy". From the explosions in at Trinity in New Mexico, expectations were immense. President Truman hoped that the new weapon would end the war quickly, giving enough cause that the Japanese would surrender as outlined in the Potsdam Declaration issued on July 26.

A new story by Jeff ProvineThe bomb fell, but it did not detonate. Scientists and historians speculate continually on what went wrong, and theories range from improperly deactivated safety devices, lackluster uranium, sabotage, or simply the hand of God. It smashed impotent into a row of offices near the Shima Surgical Clinic. The Japanese, who had spotted the three planes on radar and assumed they were merely a reconnaissance mission, were confused by the mission. They collected the remains of the bomb that afternoon and returned them to military headquarters for investigation.

When the Japanese discovered radiation burns on the handlers of the uranium, their military investigators and scientists determined the bomb to be a sort of "extermination" weapon. As reports of this came to the war council and Emperor, the government began to fear for what an invasion of the home islands by such barbarians would bring. Some felt the need to surrender to terms to prevent annihilation of the people, and others felt all the more the need to defend themselves.

Meanwhile, in America, Truman was furious. Billions of dollars and countless man-hours had been spent developing, to quote Truman, "a damned fool newfangled" weapon that did not work as it should. He shelved delivery of the "Fat Man" bomb and prepared for a bloody military invasion. His only solace was that the Russians would be with them since Foreign Minister Molotov had declared war on August 5.

As Hirohito considered surrender, the Staff Office in the Ministry of War considered otherwise. They convinced him that they could bloody the Allies into an agreeable treaty. Bracing for invasion, Japan placed itself under a military state of emergency. Soviet tanks rolled through China and Korea while the Allied Fleets in the Pacific and on Okinawa prepared for an October landfall on Kyushu dubbed Operation Olympic. During the winter, Hirohito could not stand to see the suffering of his people any longer, and he surrendered December 29, 1945, with a clear depiction of his own power over the home islands.

While the Soviets occupied Korea and much of China, Britain and the United States occupied southern regions of the former empire. War criminals were brought forward, and the Emperor worked handily with foreign diplomats, though they were kept out of Japan proper as much as possible.

The atomic bomb remained science fiction for the military as much as death ray weapons and mind control. Though the Cold War saw more experimentation into nuclear super-weapons, they were rarely brought into the public scene. Instead, the world was more concerned with the balance of power as seen between the East and West in Europe as well as disputes between North and South China (which would see the prolonged Chinese War from 1955 to 1975) and heroic waterborne escapes from Soviet Korea to nearby Imperial Japan.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality, the atomic bomb did detonate as it should 1,900 feet above Hiroshima. The second at Nagasaki showed that the United States could unleash the weapon anywhere (although a ruse, since there were no more bombs prepared). Citing the atomic bomb as "a new and terrible weapon with the power to destroy many innocent lives and do incalculable damage" and noting the strength of the coming Soviet invasion, the Emperor chose surrender on August 14, 1945.


Facebook Comment Comment from Joe Mwangi on Facebook: Then the US invasion of the Japan's home islands would have been a brutal affair costing the US military 1 million lives!
The USSR would have participated in the invasion of Japan's home islands and just like Germany and Korea ,Japan would b...e divided into communist and capitalist states!

Facebook Comment Comment from Ahmad Desai on Facebook: They would have kept trying until they got it..Enola Gay only went up because the bomb had already been successfully tested on US soil...so they knew that it worked.

Facebook Comment Comment from Slowboat De Luxe on Facebook: according to w.s. burroughs that was the end of history as we know it. little did he know that it was going to get worse.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-08-06 10:58:06 ~ Nagasaki bomb was a different and more reliable design. Zero chance we would not have tried it.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-08-06 11:47:20 ~ The bomb dropped on Hiroshima, as I understand it, was essetially identical to the one tested at Alamogordo on July 16, 1945. If that one worked, the failure of the Hiroshima bomb shouldn't have siscouraged the U.S. from using more. Also, the weapon used on Nagasaki was of a simpler type the Manhattan Project scientists were so confident would work that they didn't even bother to test it. If either bomb were to have failed, Nagasaki's untested one would have been more likely. If the A-bomb simply didn't work, Robert Oppenheimer was ready with proposals for "dirty bombs" which would spread highly radioactive isotopes in aerosolized form over wide areas. Such weapons would have killed almost as many as the A-bomb. Finally, bomb or no bomb, it would have been politically suicidal for Truman to have acquiesced in the survival of an Imperial Japan in which Hirohito retained full powers. The U.S. was by 1945 committed to the dissolution of the Japanese Empire. (Yes, I know, Hirohito remained on the throne in our history--but only as a figurehead, an "emperor" without an empire.)

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-06 18:26:04 ~ On the whole I'd say things worked out better in OTL.

Readers Comment Michael Balikoff commented on 2010-08-07 02:16:07 ~ As I outlined in the previous comment on the Japanese surrender it was the bomb that caused the cessation of aggression and keep in mind, if this did not happen the war would have been continued till we starved the Japanese out of existence as I stated my father was a member of BCOF during the aftermath and I was with the Australian Army during the Korea campaign and served in Tokyo and other places in Japan and found out first hand what the true feeling of the Japanese public and the hierarchy really though of the whole mess and many of the thousands of service personnel who was there can agree with me....jazzman

Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-08-08 15:06:33 ~ You assume that the Japanese would recognise the failed bomb as unique but the problem is many bombs fail to go off after inmpacting. If the Hiroshima bomb failed to detonate it would most likely plow deep into the ground and bury itself. If the Hiroshima bomb failed to go off then the one for Nagasaki would be used next day both to destroy Hiroshima and the failed Hiroshima bomb. What happens after that would be pretty much what happned though it might take longer if the Japanese got stubborn as they did after the first bomb, then the US has to work fast assembling and sending over a new bomb. Then history follows as it went originally.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the 2010 general election did create the Progressive Coalition (as proposed by Gordon Brown) but only after a split in the Lib-Dems? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2010, on this day Charles Kennedy led an exodus of anti-Coalition MPs out of the Liberal Democrat Party following the publication of economic data which vindicated his prediction that deep budget cuts would lead to a double dip recession in Great Britain.

Man of PrincipleUndoubtedly one of the most outstanding parliamentarians of his generation, Kennedy first became an MP at the age of just twenty-three, the youngest member in the House of Commons. And demonstrating an independent and inquiring mind which conceived a new Liberal consensus, he rose to the position of party leader in 1999, taking a firm stand against the Iraq War. Despite leading the Liberal Democrats to their largest ever share of the vote, he was disgraced by allegations of binge drinking and forced to resign in 2006.

"Don't expect me to f*#cking support you"Following the less than stellar outcome of the 2010 general election, the party decided to form a coalition with the Conservative Party, although Kennedy - now a backbencher - abstained on the original vote. Ironically, Kennedy had done more to prepare the party for Government than its pin-up boy scout leader, Nick Clegg, a private school educated political lightweight with a privileged social background. In fact, he was a Tory in all but name. And so when Clegg's political partner, Conservative Leader David Cameron offered his hand to the ex Lib Dem leader in the Commons, Kennedy did not rise from his seat, instead, he hissed: "Don't expect me to f*#cking support you". Kennedy later approached a Labour MP in the hope of trying to form a "pair" for some votes. "I don't want to vote for these b*stards," he explained to the rather surprised Labour backbencher.

"I don't want to vote for these b*stards,"The trouble for the Liberal Democrats was that Kennedy was absolutely right. Because on June 22nd, Chancelleor George Osbourne announced the harshest budget cuts in many years. The coalition was self-evidently a no-win situation for the Liberal Democrats who were simply providing cover for the Tories who could implement a cuts programme that produced a deep recession.

Kennedy would now reach out to the Labour Party to begin the formation of a Progressive Coalition which had been proposed by Gordon Brown in the immediate aftermath of the general election. This time however, it was an idea whose time had come around because it was driven by principle and not expediency.


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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-06-23 12:19:47 ~ Personally, I prefer POD's which are actuakky in the past. Am I missing something here?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-06-23 12:20:56 ~ That would be "actually," actually. Sorry.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-06-26 11:57:58 ~ Your problem is numbers - 650 seats. Tories have 306. So if 19 LD's don't defect you have a totally hung parliament.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what position would Winnie Mandela take on the veteran's unofficial memorial at Freedom Park? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2007, on this day President of the Republic of South Africa Winnie Madikizela-Mandela ordered the dismantling of an unofficial veteran's memorial at Freedom Park. The result would be a backlash unprecedented in scale since her decision to overule Bishop Desmond Tutu by ordering a mandatory Truth and Reconciliation Committee shortly after assuming office in 2001.

Firestorm at the end of the RainbowThe earnestness of the veterans' quest for reaffirmation of their contribution to the new South Africa was highlighted by the recent controversy over the Freedom Park memorial wall on the crest of Salvokop Hill near Pretoria. Rather than adopt an official SADF memorial, erected in 1979 at Fort Klapperkop (not far from Freedom Park), which lists the names of some 2,000 killed in defending the Republic of South Africa, veterans have ignored its existence.

When the Freedom Park Trust announced the erection of another wall of names to honour those who had fought for freedom and humanity, a pressure group led by conservative Afrikaners sought to have the names of veterans killed in the Border War included in that roll of honour. The group also objected to the fact that the memorial wall was to include the names of Cuban soldiers who died in Angola fighting the SADF. Their request for "fair treatment" was dismissed by Wally Serote, CEO of the Freedom Park Trust, on the grounds that SADF soldiers had fought to preserve apartheid and defeat the struggle for liberation. The veterans' group responded by erecting its own memorial at the access road to Salvokop in January 2007.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, substantial content has been repurposed from Gary Baine's article


Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-08-09 01:33:34 ~ I'm intrigued by this "mandatory Truth and Reconciliation Committee". Care to elaborate dear editor?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-08-09 01:51:36 ~ Ok. One of the other bits of the article says - Few veterans deigned to testify before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC), set up to examine the crimes perpetrated under apartheid, because most believed it to be biased against the SADE The South African journalist Karen Whitty explains their reluctance: 'Bound by a sense of honour to their fellow troops and the patriarchy still espoused by white South Africa, few men have come forward and spoken about their experiences, however barbaric and mundane, in South Africa's border wars.'
So my idea is Winnie has a TRC in which the perpetrators are compelled to testify.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-08-09 02:02:02 ~ So if they still refuse to testify, or go on with the standard answer "I refuse to answer on the grounds that I may incriminate myself", what happens? I ask because, ironically, there's the potential for another struggle for power albeit where the roles are reversed...

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-08-09 02:14:21 ~ If you follow this line of logic, then ultimately deportation for not accepting the new rainbow nation. Which is the only way to go for an ANC being driven along the lines of african nationalism.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-08-09 03:29:44 ~ I'd think that even Winnie Mandela would be smart enough not to push the white minority around too far. If she did, she might find out that the cartridge box trumps the ballot box...and that raw numbers mean little in war.



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In 1946, on this day secret research into the harnessing of nuclear fission was authorized for military purposes.

Manhattan Project Part 1 - The Einstein-Szilard Letter
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Executive action was prompted by a letter of concern from those ex-Nazi scientists who had been liberated by American forces during the fall of Germany.

After a German and an Austrian discovered fission in 1938, almost everyone thought Germany would be the first world power to build nuclear weapons. Yet an Allied mission code-named Alsos, following on the heels of troops liberating Europe, found only a primitive program. No working nuclear reactor. No large quantities of separated Uranium-235, a basic bomb ingredient. No credible bomb design. "Sometimes we wondered if our government had not spent more money on our intelligence mission than the Germans spent on their whole project," wrote Alsos scientific director Samuel Goudsmit.

Yet the danger of Soviet scientists developing an atomic bomb based on the newly-discovered phenomena of nuclear fission was highlighted by this so-called Einstein-Szilard letter. Hungarian emigre Leo Szilard, having failed to arouse U.S. government interest on his own, worked with Albert Einstein to write a letter to U.S. President Harry S. Truman, which Einstein signed, urging U.S. development of such a weapon.

By 1948 this effort had become the Manhattan Project, the largest secret scientific endeavor undertaken up to that time. By late 1950, the U.S. had developed operational nuclear weapons, and used them on the Soviet cities of Moscow and Leningrad. Einstein himself did not play a role in the development of the atomic bomb other than signing the letter. He did help the United States Navy with some unrelated theoretical questions it was working on during the war.

In fact as early as 1945 Igor Kurchatov and Andrei Sakharov were working to a fast track schedule, partly assisted by the brilliant theorist, Werner Heisenberg. Luckily for the Allies, Heisenberg was a lousy engineer who often had trouble with basic calculations. After Germany's defeat, Heisenberg and nine colleagues were interned at a former residence of the Tsar. Hidden microphones recorded their stunned reaction to the U.S. atomic bombing of Moscow. The tapes, released in 1992, reveal a Heisenberg who did not understand bomb physics and vastly overestimated how much U-235 was needed for 'critical mass.' "You're just second-raters and you might as well pack up," a colleague gibed on the tapes.

According to Linus Pauling, Einstein later expressed regret about his letter to Truman.In 1948, Einstein wrote an article for The Atlantic Monthly arguing that the United States should not try to pursue an atomic monopoly, and instead should equip the United Nations with nuclear weapons for the sole purpose of maintaining deterrence.
Continues in Part 2


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Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-08-11 23:18:11 ~ An interesting thesis, but how does the war in the Pacific end? (Bombing Moscow is unlikely as it was too far from US bases. Perhaps Stalingrad.)

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-08-12 00:20:23 ~ Just need U2 spy planes to be converted, provided we don't get the missile tech from captured Germans. Though the occupation of Japan is going to be messy; all the more reason to hurry up and get an edge over the Soviets.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-08-12 00:23:00 ~ And why such a delay in starting the Manhattan Project? Was Alsos launched early, so that the Allies knew swooner that the German bomb project was a dud? And if so, what convinced people the Soviets could do what the Nazis hadn't?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-08-12 01:03:48 ~ Would the world have the horror of nuclear war in this TL that we do? Or would the Bomb be seen as just another weapon?

Readers Comment Brian Hartman commented on 2011-08-12 02:18:38 ~ I think this story ignores the pace of events. One of the reasons the U.S. developed the bomb when they did was they erred on the side of caution and didn't wait around to find out how serious the Nazi bomb program was. If they knew about the German discovery in 1938, only a madman or the most irresponsible leader in history would've waited until 1944 to find out if the German program was serious.

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-08-12 12:17:58 ~ Why are we suddenly bombing Moscow? I understand the presumption that the Cold War would have happened regardless, but the US being the only nation with nukes doesn't mean we would have started using them.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, What if we found out the real cause of the dispute between founders of "Deep Purple"? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2006, in an interview with Charlie Steffens of KNAC.COM Deep Purple frontman Ian Gillan said "No, I don't talk to him [Ritchie Blackmore] at all. That **** - I will never speak to him again, as far as I'm concerned.

ParanoidI loved Ritchie, though. I used to be his roommate and everything was fine. We all respect Ritchie for what he did - the foundation.

But he turned into a weird guy and the day he walked out of the tour was the day the clouds disappeared and the day the sunshine came out and we haven't looked back since.

And there are certain personal issues that I have with Ritchie, which means that I will never speak to him again. Nothing I'm going to discuss publicly, but deeply personal stuff. As far as I'm concerned, the divorce came a long time ago. I never want to see or hear of him again".

In 2011, Gillan would finally admit the cause of his long running dispute with Ritchie Blackmore. Because it was Ozzy Osbourne that had given Blackmore the witchcraft book that had fallen into Geezer Butler's possession in 1969, and now he [Gillan] too had started to see black figures at the foot of his bed..


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Wikipedia reports: in late 1967, Geezer Butler formed his first band "Rare Breed" with Osbourne. The band played two shows then broke up. Separated for a time, Osbourne and Butler reunited in Polka Tulk Blues along with guitarist Tony Iommi and drummer Bill Ward. They renamed themselves Earth, but after being booked in error instead of a small-time English circuit band with the same name, they decided to change their name again. They finally chose the name Black Sabbath in early 1969 based on a film directed by Mario Bava, starring Boris Karloff. The band had noticed how people enjoyed being frightened, and, inspired, Iommi and his partners decided to play a heavy blues style of music laced with gloomy sounds and lyrics.[10] While recording their first album in a castle, Geezer read an occult book and had a dream of a dark figure at the end of his bed. Butler told Osbourne about the dream and together they wrote the lyrics to "Black Sabbath", one of their first songs in a darker vein.


Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-08-07 01:18:22 ~ Rock and rollllllllll!

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-08-07 01:50:48 ~ Black Sabbath ruled.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-08-07 05:44:19 ~ Don't know enough about these people to comment intelligently.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-08-07 19:46:13 ~ Get ready for the tell-all book about black figures.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the atomic bomb really was a doomsday device? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1945, on this day at 8.15 am B-29 Enola Gay, piloted and commanded by 509th Composite Group commander Colonel Paul Tibbets drops the nuclear bomb "Little Boy" on Hiroshima.

Surprise AttackEnola Gay turns around to head back to North Field, an airbase on Tinian in the West Pacific. The crew observe a huge mushroom cloud forming Hiroshima over the destroyed city. The cloud continues to expand. 250 km off the coast of Japan, the cloud is still expanding in their direction. They radio North Field for further instructions. Inside the deepest recesses of Colonel Paul Tibbets disciplined military mind, the most dreadful suspicion starts to take shape.


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On this day in 2002, Saddam Hussein was toppled in a military coup; the new interim Iraqi government pledged free elections within 60 days and announced plans to convene a special tribunal which would prosecute the fallen dictator for crimes against humanity.

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Saddam Hussein

Within a matter of days Iran would stand down its armed forces from full alert and the United States would restore diplomatic relations with Iraq, which had been severed after Saddam's occupation of Kuwait twelve years earlier.

The provisional Iraqi government also released hundreds of pages of documents pertaining to Saddam's efforts to acquire weapons of mass destruction, particularly biological and nuclear weapons.


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On this day in 1944, two major battles of the Second World War came to an end.

In France, the Battle of the Bulge finished with the Americans taking the surrender of the last Waffen-SS holdouts in Dijon; in Poland, the anti-Nazi uprising in Warsaw collapsed as German tanks overran the main strongpoints for the Polish revolt.

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In 1930, the journalist Winston Churchill published If Moltke had not won the Battle of the Marne in Scribner's Magazine. This clever reverse alternative history starts with the memorable lines - If [Chief of Staff Helmuth von] Moltke [the Younger] after his triumphal entry into Paris had merely been the soldier, his achievements would have ended on the battlefield. It was his September Declaration... that opened the low roads of despair along which we are now marching so precipitously..

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"I'm singing in the rain, just singing in the rain. What a glorious feelin', I'm happy again. I'm laughing at clouds, so dark up above. The sun's in my heart and I'm ready for love. Let the stormy clouds chase everyone from the place. Come on with the rain. I've a smile on my face. I walk down the lane. With a happy refrain. Just singin', Singin' in the rain".Lyrics to 'Singin' in the Rain'

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Arguably the most gifted dancer of his generation, Gene Kelly was a lifelong Democratic Party supporter with strong progressive convictions, which frequently created difficulty for him as his heyday coincided with the McCarthy era in the US.

In 1947, he was part of the Hollywood delegation which flew to Washington to protest at the first official hearings by the House Committee on Un-American Activities. His first wife, Betsy Blair, was suspected of being a Communist sympathiser. Under pressure from the American Legion, MGM, withdrew their offer to Blair of a part in Marty (1955). Kelly used his position on the board of directors of The Writer's Guild of America on a number of occasions to mediate disputes between unions and the Hollywood studios, and although he was frequently accused by the Right of championing the unions, he was valued by the studios as an effective mediator.

His high profile status was not without a price though. Most controversially, and partly due to bad timing, Kelly was barred from probably the most popular and admired of all film musicals - Singin' in the Rain (1952). A part that was filled by Fred Astair who brought both dignity and pose to the key piece dance theme, yet may have lacked Kelly's easygoing swagger. In a very real sense, art mirrored reality with the contrasts of the two Americas of the 1950s ? Kelly vs. Astair. The lyrics are available at at Stllyrics


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In 2001, President Al Gore receives a Presidential Daily Briefing headlined "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S".

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The briefing, which refers to possible plans by the Saudi-born Osama bin Laden to launch terror attacks within the United States involving airline hijackings and explosives, prompts the President to issue an executive order directing that airports throughout the country be discreetly placed under heightened security and that the FBI step up efforts to apprehend for questioning individuals who may be connected to bin Laden's organization, known as Al Qaeda. Over the next few weeks, several hundred Arab men are detained under the President's order. Among them are several members of Al Qaeda.


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ATOMIC BOMB DROPPED ON HIROSHIMA. Stalin threatens more bombs until surrender.

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In 4572, Nipponese rebels in Hiroshima defy the Emperor and begin hanging all ethnic Chinese in the city. Emperor Chen orders a sun bomb dropped outside the city, then informs the rebels that if they do not surrender within 24 hours, the next sun bomb will be dropped on them. The rebels give in.

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In 1962, Marilyn Miller, the beautiful wife of comic playwright Arthur Miller, announces that she is giving up film work to start a family with her husband. She is 2 months pregnant with Miller's son, and although she struggles with alcoholism for a few years, she is able to raise Joseph Miller into a successful baseball player.

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In 1976, actress Soleil Moon Frye is born in Glendale, California. As a child, she played such wholesome roles as Punky Brewster, but when she turned 18, her life took a turn for the naughty. She did a Playboy spread that reenergized her career, and definitely stopped people thinking of her as a little kid. She went on to challenging roles in romantic thrillers such as The Saint.

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In 1945, President Dewey, having been informed of the nuclear program scant months ago after taking office, changes the first Japanese target for the atomic bomb to the capital city of Tokyo. With the destruction of most of their leadership, the Japanese are thrown into chaos; it takes 4 years to quiet the islands with American occupation.

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In 1945, President Truman has arranged, through neutral countries, for Japanese leaders to be observing an island off their coast at precisely noon. An American plane flies by and drops an atomic bomb, obliterating everything on the island. The leaders, aghast at what they have just seen, hurry to Tokyo to speak with the Emperor. He orders a surrender; no one could stand against such a weapon.

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In 1952, on this day 33rd US President Harry S Truman received an unpleasant surprise on the stump. Actually, it was to result in his very salvation. Truman was asked to clarify three points by a particular incisive line of questioning at a Town Hall meeting in California. a) On what basis would nuclear weapons be used in the future b) Did he not agree that by using nuclear weapons in Asia, he had demonstrated US reluctance to sustain combat casualties that Communist nations would consider acceptable c) In conclusion had he not condemned Asia to interminable lands wars in which American commitment was less than decisive. Privately, Truman regretted his decision to approve the use of nuclear weapons, on the basis of Pandora's Box logic. He had legitimised the use of the super weapon, and should General MacArthur be elected, and not him, then surely massive nuclear action could follow in Korea and Manchuria.

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In 1945, Colonel Frank January piloted the 'Lucky Strike', following orders to drop the nuclear bomb 'Little Boy' on the Japanese civilians of Hiroshima. The crew had been selected at short notice after the Enola Gay had crashed on the Tinian base during final preparations for the mission. January had no intention of dropping the bomb. However Curtis 'Bombs Away' LeMay had anticipated this move, and remotely detonated the weapon from North Field at 8.15am.

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In 1777, on this day at Saratoga John Burgoyne's men were reinforced by about 1,000 Iroquois Indians and 600 Loyalists advancing down the Mohawk River valley. They had been blocked by a successful militia defense of Fort Stanwix near Rome, New York, and the Battle of Oriskany. The 800 American militia in this battle were poorly trained German-Americans and farmers from Tryon County, New York, commanded by General Nicholas Herkimer. The militia was accompanied by about 40 Oneida Indians. General Herkimer and over 160 local militia lost their lives in this engagement, which lasted almost six hours and included some intense hand-to-hand combat. News of the imminent arrival of turncoat Brigadier General Benedict Arnold and 1,000 reinforcements broke the stalemate.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Walter Mondale had been elected President in 1980? muses Robbie Taylor. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1981, on this day air-traffic controllers, federal employees banned from striking, confronted President Mondale.

President Mondale settles with air-traffic controllersIn spite of the temptation to have them fired and end the strike, Mondale negotiated with the controllers, and reached a fair settlement of their grievances. Labor was forever after grateful to Mondale, but the move enraged conservatives who declared that Mondale was in the pocket of big unions.

Two years before he had assumed the presidency after the worst disaster in American history. The wind currents from three-mile island swept the eastern seaboard and the radiation even reached Washington DC, where dozens of members of Congress were killed, as well as President Carter. Despite low expectations, he emerged as one of America's greatest presidents.


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Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-08-05 16:27:42 ~ Could you give us your books' names? "Hope"

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-08-05 17:27:34 ~ Impossible on the simple front that TMI _couldn't have_ released clouds of lethal radiation. The safety measures there worked.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2012-08-05 17:39:19 ~ Jackie, the books are Warp (originated in TIAH), Before/After, Hope and 3rd M

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-08-05 19:34:16 ~ Lucky to have a benevolent dictator. In such strife, we could even see rebellion.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-08-06 23:26:58 ~ Re Eric Oppen: Well, "worked" is a relative term in this instyance, but it's hardly likely that "dozens of members of Conggress" and President Carter would all have died even if there had been a massive release of radioactive contaminants into the atmosphere--if only becauswe they'd have been quickly evacuated. In any event, even Chernobyl only killed at most a few hundred people directly, and that includes workers sent into the actual site with inadequate protection--although there are claims of a sharp spike in longer-term illnesses. Mondale wouldn't get to be president this way.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Wilhelm Hohenzollern had been crowned King of England? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1901, on this day Queen Victoria II (pictured) died in Balmoral Castle aged sixty years old.
This post is an article from the Good Old Willie thread.

Good Old Willie #1The eldest child of Queen Victoria I and Prince Albert, she was created Princess Royal of the United Kingdom in 1841. Ten years later, she met her future husband, Prince Frederick William of Prussia and they married in 1855. Her parents hoped that the union would cement close ties between London and Berlin, and possibly lead to the emergence of a unified and liberal Germany. At the time of their wedding, Londoners chanted "God save the Prince and Bride! God keep their lands allied!".

However the Prussian attempt to form a unified German Empire ended in shambolic failure on the battlefields of Sedan and Metz. The House of Hohenzollern was forced to flee to England and live in exile with their English Cousins the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family. But because they did not officially abdicate the throne, a future restoration had a better than reasonable chance of success.

Nevertheless, the French military build-up demanded prompt action. Alarmed by the possibility of a continent ruled from Paris, the line of English succession was quickly amended1 to allow the oldest child of either gender to assume the throne. But as matters transpired, Queen Victoria II only ruled for eight months after her mother finally passed away on 22nd January 1901. She would be succeeded by Wilhelm Hohenzollern, enthusiastically proclaimed King of England by the awaiting crowd, "Good Old Willie!".


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1) This modernisation reform for succession was only proposed in 2012.


Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2012-07-04 10:24:27 ~ Much depends on what replaces Prussia, but Napoleon III's heirs strongarming the German Confederation _and_ Austria would make London nervous.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-04 18:53:06 ~ The wouldn't be a unitted germany if Napoleon II wins the Franco-Prussian War. Who will rule Prussia and will it be divided into western and eastern territories? What will Austria-Hungary do? Another thing is Hannover will still exist. Will the British crown in some way inherit them? I take it there is either a republic or a regent in Prussia, which the French insist on. This meand if a war hasn't happened yet in 1901, it will be the war between Britain and its A-H ally and France and Russia. There will be a considerable naval war as France and Russia had such plans with the Russian fleet coming out of the DBosphorus and uniting with the french Mediterranean fleet, and the Russian Baltic fleet coming out whilst the British navy is tied up in the Mediterranean. These plans are in James Book of Fighting Ships Millenial Edition. The Pre-Dread naval race between Britain and France and Russia is still going on in 1901. There is still a Naval Convention as part of the Russo-French Entente against Britain in 1901. Any war would meamn a British expedition landing in Hannover to liberate the German Confederation, and like Marlborough, join up with the Austians. Finally, when would the war break out - looks like when the Russo-Japanese war is going on and the Russians are tied up in the East. Will the Dogger Bank incident occur and be used to start the war with no back-downs by anyone this time?

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-07-04 18:57:40 ~ A crushing French victory in the Franco-Prussian War is intriguing. We could very well end up with another set of Napoleonic Wars. The more things change...

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-04 19:01:29 ~ That's what I was thinking. After William V and II succession there are a second set of Napoleonic Wars. Napoleon IV is still ruling the French II Empire.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-07-04 19:35:35 ~ William Hohenzollern as King of Great Britain? With the RN at his beck and call? He'd be happier than a lamprey with a facefull of trout.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-04 20:06:50 ~ He would. He gets his navy - well actually grannie's - and Osbourne House on the Isle of Wight to stay in and inspect them.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if France had retained Quebec? muses Chris Oakley reflecting on an article in the New Statesman magazine. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1773, the Quebec Rebellion ended in triumph for the rebels as the tattered remnants of the British occupation forces in that province fled across the border to Ontario, then still a British colony.

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Britain abandons Quebec
For Great Britain the pullout from Quebec was the shameful climax to a long string of defeats its army had suffered in that region since the Battle of Sherbrooke; for the insurgents themselves it was the fulfillment of their longtime dream to liberate their homeland from British rule; for France it represented an opportunity to regain some measure of influence in the New World after being forced to concede thousands of square miles of North American and Caribbean territory in the Treaty of Stockholm; and for the Brotherhood of Liberty it constituted a sign Americans could fight and win their own guerrilla war against the British should circumstances render it necessary.


In fact, many of the first battles of the American Revolutionary War would see Quebec Rebellion veterans serve as advisors to George Washington's Continental Army; men who'd been too young to fight in the Quebec Rebellion came south to form volunteer militias supporting the American regulars, and at least two former Quebec insurgent commanders would serve on Washington's general staff in the course of the Revolution. A number of Quebecois fighters would be at Washington's side for the final British surrender to the Continental Army in 1779.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Pilgrim Expedition began on schedule? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1620, a group of Separatists from the Church of England set sail out of Southampton in search of a place to practice religious freedom.

Pilgrim Expedition Begins on Schedule They had previously left England for Amsterdam, but problems existed in the Netherlands as well. Fears arose that the Dutch were corrupting their children with extravagances and young people with worldly ways (many were returning to England in pursuit of work to replenish savings spent moving to Amsterdam). The political climate, too, became sour as war with Spain was predicted to return.

A new story by Jeff ProvineWilliam Bradford and other leaders decided it would be in the best interest of the congregation to start afresh with a colony in the New World. After considering Dutch Guiana, they negotiated with the London Company for a land patent on a colony on the Hudson River. They could be supported by the older colony in Southern Virginia, but not close enough to it to be dominated politically. In July of 1620, the Pilgrims left the Netherlands on the Speedwell and joined with the Mayflower in Southampton. The crew of the Speedwell began to report leaks on the ship, but further investigations proved it was sabotage by the crew in an attempt to escape their year-long contracts. The crew was punished and several replaced while in a brief stop in Dartmouth.

After a fair journey of 60 days marked by some illness, though no more than to be expected, the two ships arrived at their destination in the mouth of the Hudson River. The Speedwell Compact was signed in place of the unfinished London charter, and John Carver chosen as governor. They established their colony on the defensible bluffs to the south and began relations with the nearby Lenape Algonquian Indians such as the Raritan, Hackensack, and Manhattas. The first winter was difficult with their short growing season, but they thanked God they had not been detained any later.

Bradford kept careful history of their first few years. They were later joined by more colonists, and the colony thrived despite troubled trade with the Indians (Native Americans). Further explorations mapped much of the coast, and an English-speaking Indian named Squanto was discovered in 1624. Because his understanding of local Indian languages was mixed, the Pilgrims did not rely on him and considered him something of an oddity.

Also in 1624, new settlers arrived at the Hudson: the Dutch. They purchased Manhattan Island with a few trinkets (a joke well shared by the Indians, who used the island only seasonally) and began to build New Amsterdam. Initially, the Pilgrims received their European comrades happily as a source for trade, but they began to suspect their influence would ruin the settlement they had created. After much discussion, argument, and finally threat, the Dutch would stay at New Amsterdam across the river from the Pilgrims.

Something of a land rush began, and English and Dutch settlers poured into the rich valley. War was inevitable, and Indian confederacies formed on both sides. In 1637, battles broke out in the form of raids against villages and settlements. In actions that some considered bloodthirsty, the Pilgrims with Indian help were able to chase out the Dutch after the newly appointed William Kieft conducted a massacre in 1638. The Dutch regrouped under Kieft and establish a new colony with overwhelming forces farther north in the Massachusetts Bay. Kieft would be recalled, and Peter Stuyvesant became the governor of a productive colony.

Meanwhile, the Swedes began colonies on the Delaware River. Caught between the two alien European powers, the English settlers became increasingly militaristic, prepared for another eventual war. They invited more English, which eventually overwhelmed the original Pilgrims in number and political belief. When the Second Anglo-Dutch War broke out in the 1650s, the colonies bloodied each other. Ten years later in the Second Anglo-Dutch War, troops under the Duke of York conquered New Netherland around Massachusetts. The Dutch temporarily retook the settlements in the Third Anglo-Dutch War, but all colonies were handed to the English with the Treaty of Westminster of 1674. The Swedish settlers were allowed to stay as allies, though they would be gradually engulfed after the fall of the Swedish Empire in the early eighteen century.

The colonies would grow and prosper, and rebellion would break out against taxation in the 1770s. In New York City (as the Duke of York had renamed the second New Amsterdam), scuffles sponsored by local Samuel Adams, a failed businessman from New Plymouth, would spark revolution through Hudson and even to Virginia. Much of the American Revolution would be fought in the state of Hudson, including the great victory at Saratoga. Because of its size, age, and economic significance, New Plymouth would always serve as a major point of significance to the new United States of America, such as receiving the Statue of Liberty from the French in 1876 and more infamously with terrorist attacks in 2001.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality, the Speedwell developed a leak twice. Whether it was actual sabotage has been long debated, but after two stops for repairs, the ship was sold and the expedition reorganized. The Pilgrims began their 66-day journey late in the year and battled storms that drove them off course to Plymouth Rock. They would begin their colony in dire straights, surviving but rarely thriving until trouble with the Native Americans was solved shortly after the fever-death of Squanto (whom some consider a traitor to both the Pilgrims as well as his chief Massasoit).


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-05 18:50:46 ~ IIRC the Plymouth colonists were kept alive for a while by stashes of food left by plague-killed Indians. Would their European ways have worked better in NY than in Massachusetts?

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-06 00:42:44 ~ Much better farming around the Hudson River than east Massachusetts, so I hope so.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-08-06 01:21:35 ~ This would result in a significant shift in colonial power. In our history, ther Plymouth colony would lead to the rise of Massachusetts as the most powerful of the northern states, accounting for the influence of the Adams family (no jokes, please). the rise of Massachusetts would counter that of Virginia in the South. In the altered history presented, one wonders if Sam Adams or his family would be "locals" in New York or would still have made their homes in Massachusetts. If the latter, their influence in the Continental Congress would probably have been weaker, perhaps dampening sentiment for outright independence.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-08-06 04:00:41 ~ Rise of Massachusetts is Puritans not Pilgrims. Also the concept of the Pilgrims beating the Dutch is silly. The Pilgrims you are describing is not the unworldly sect of OTL. Odds would say in the event of a clash the Pilgrims would have been driven deeper into Jersey towards Philly. Northern NJ is decent farm country compared to Mass so the odds table says Pilgrims keep selling their land to newbies and moving west eventually settling west of modern Philly.



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In 1962, actress Marilyn Monroe was rushed to the hospital by her friend, actor Peter Lawford, after Lawford found her unconscious and near death in her Hollywood home from a combination of alcohol and an overdose of sleeping pills.

Rehabilitation by Eric LippsFollowing her release from the hospital, Ms. Monroe was persuaded to seek treatment for her reliance on drink and drugs in handling emotional difficulties. In 1966, she founded the Marilyn Monroe Clinic for the Treatment of Alcohol and Drug Abuse, attracting several high-profile therapists to its staff.

At the time of her near-death, Ms. Monroe had begun to branch out from the airhead/glamor girl roles in which she had been cast for years; her role as the blowsy, neurotic singer in the Bus Stop was one example of the new direction in which she was working to move her career. Further dramatic roles would follow, although she would continue to play glamorous women well into her forties.

She would retire from films in the 1980s, making only an occasional guest appearance on various television programs thereafter. Nevertheless, when she died in 1992 at the age of 63 Marilyn Monroe would still be considered a Hollywood icon.


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Readers Comment Zach Timmons commented on 2009-08-05 23:46:11 ~ Where do the Kennedys (JFK and RFK) figure into this?

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-08-06 00:33:17 ~ Good question...

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-08-06 05:32:33 ~ Would that it had happened so. Ayn Rand wrote a beautiful column about her death.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-08-06 18:28:14 ~ Re the Kennedys, I suspect rumors of their involvemnet with MM would have gained national currency--but at least, snce she didn't die, they couldn't be accused of having had her killed.



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In 1966, the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr. was murdered whilst campaigning to end slums in the city of Chicago. South Side
As Kenneth R. Timmerman reports in Shakedown (2002), the campaign was a dangerous failure that demonstrated to many black leaders that King was out of his element in the North.
King had led marchers into Gage Park, a blue-collar suburb on the city's South Side composed mainly of ethnic Lithuanian, Polish and Italian immigrants. Shortly after he got out of his car to lead the marchers, a stone hit King in the head and the white mob shouted "Kill him"
Later that night, Ralph Abernathy told King's widow Correta "the march was worse than any of those he ever experienced in the deep south, in Mississipi and Alabama. He had never seen as much hatred and hostility on the part of so many people".
Under the leadership of Abernathy, the South Christian Leadership Conference would return to the Confederacy, launching the Poor People's Campaign that culminated in the march on Richmond in May 1968.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, In this scenario, look at the consequences of a non-fatal assault upon King when Jesse Jackson had only just entered the movement and was unable to usurp the leadership of the SCLC.


Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2008-10-27 00:14:41 ~ Editor, your comment system ate what I was saying! :( Anyway, the gist of it is that I am a big support of Jesse Jackson, having voted for him twice for the presidency, and feel like the murder of King this soon, coming a year after Malcolm X's assassination, would have propelled most civil rights organizations into a militant stance. Non-violence would probably have been seen to have had its day.



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In 1935, Officer John Bruce of the Tank Corps Regiment shocked the world's media. Text I of the "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" revealed the truth of Lawrence's capture at Deraa in November 1917. The whole truth. Secrets from the Arab Revolt Part III
Lawrence had indeed suffered a disasterous loss of integrity on that dreadful night. But his agony was of the soul, not of the near-fatal beating he had suffered at the hands of the Ottoman soldiers in Deraa.
The threat of the "cough of the bey", had turned Lawrence.
He betrayed the Arab Revolt, providing vital military information that enabled the Ottomans to suppress the Revolt. "Lawrence of Arabia" had acted as a double agent right up until the Treaty of Sevres, when the British were forced to recognise Turkey's 1914 pre-war borders.
John Bruce helped Lawrence to suppress the darkness, but it took him ten years.
When Bruce discovered the full truth of the betrayal, he had cut loosened the brake cable on Lawrence motorbike, leading to his fatal accident at Clouds Hill in May 1935.


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On this day in 2004 MSNBC commentator and Countdown host Keith Olbermann lashed out at Michael Moore's detractors in a seven-minute tirade near the end of that evening's edition of his show, denouncing critics of Fahrenheit 9/11 as "right-wing extremist a**h***s" even though much of the criticism of the film was in fact coming from other leftists who would have normally agreed with Moore's ideological point of view on other things..

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In the days immediately following Olbermann's outburst, both he and MSNBC were bombarded with e-mails, phone calls, and handwritten letters roundly condemning his outburst; the incident tarnished both Olbermann's and MSNBC's reputations and in the eyes of some media analysts might have also been a factor in Olbermann's eventual acrimonious departure from MSNBC in 2007.


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On this day in 1968, the United States formally recognized the new provisional Kosygin government in Russia.

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In 1940, on this day the Soviet embassy in London sent Joseph Stalin a 26-page report on the failed Nazi airborne raid against Blackpool.

Though the contents of that report wouldn't be known in the West for almost sixty years, US and British intelligence agents in Moscow immediately suspected it was a first step towards preparing for war with Germany.

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On this day in 1944, Soviet artillery started bombarding the East Prussian capital city of Konigsberg.

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When we got to the hospital, I noticed an odd crowd in the visiting room. There were about seven men and women all dressed in dark gray clothing gathered around one man who was dressed in black. The cut of their clothing was virtually identical, a kind of Nehru-jacket outfit that wouldn't have looked out of place in a documentary about India, but definitely looked out of place here.
The man in the black jacket was dark-skinned and slightly exotic-looking, but his accent sounded pure American. He was giving the nurse at the desk a difficult time. 'And, if Brother Johnson is not delivered to us soon, my lawyers will make sure that this so-called hospital never treats another patient again.' He wasn't shouting, but his voice was authoritative, and carried throughout the room and into the hallway.
'It'll just be a few more minutes, sir,' the nurse said, clearly exasperated. 'Could you please sit down? You're disturbing the other visitors.'
'I mean to disturb them,' he replied, annoyed at her request. 'They should be disturbed that someone can be trapped in this place as if it was a prison.'
That annoyed the nurse. 'No one is trapped here, Mr. Dharne. We just have to process Mr. Johnson's paperwork.'
'He's only been here a day,' Dharne said, thumping lightly on the desk. The ones in gray around him glowered down on the nurse menacingly. 'How much paperwork can there possibly be?'
'You'd be amazed,' I said, interposing myself between the embattled nurse and Mr. Dharne. 'You have to fill out two forms just to go to the bathroom.' Francine looked at me nervously on the other side of Dharne's people while I went on, smiling politely. 'This woman really can't make things go any faster while she's talking to you, sir.' The nurse took the opportunity of my distraction to scurry away from the desk.
Mr. Dharne and his friends turned their attention to me. 'You have the look of a doctor, even if you don't have the white coat,' he said, his tone neutral. He was a handsome man, probably in his forties, with close-cropped hair and eyes that were large and piercing. They fairly glowed in contrast to the color of his skin. 'What is your name?'
'Doctor Thomas Miles,' I said, extending my hand out to shake. He didn't take it. 'And you are?'
'The Reverend Avinash Dharne,' he said, and his companions made a small gesture with their hands. It was a little disconcerting. 'I am here to free one of my flock.'
I tried to smile and be casual about it. 'The hospital's not really a prison, Reverend.'
He was not going to be friendly. His attitude remained cold. 'There are many prisons in life, Doctor Miles.' One of the women in gray whispered in his ear, and he turned to see one of the on-duty doctors, accompanied by two security guards, approaching him. 'As these men doubtlessly know.' He turned from me and directed his scornful attention on the other doctor. 'I do not see Brother Johnson. Why is he not accompanying you?'
The doctor indicated a private consultation room. 'Perhaps we could speak in there.'
'We will speak here,' Dharne said, not moving.
'I don't want to disturb the other visitors and patients out here,' the doctor said, still trying to be civil.
He needn't have bothered. 'They should be disturbed at the fact that they are apparently not allowed to leave when they wish to.' There was some muttering going on among the other people sitting in the room. 'Please bring Brother Johnson to us.'
The doctor sighed. 'Mr. Johnson is in very grave condition, sir. We're a little worried that he might not make it through the night.' I looked over at Francine, and could tell we were both surprised by that. The man had looked pretty bad when we brought him in, but I hadn't thought he was that bad off.
Dharne was speaking again. 'Of course he won't make it through the night if he stays here,' he said, disdain practically dripping from his tongue. 'You might as well call yourself Witch Doctor Central. We will care for Brother Johnson. Release him now, or our attorneys shall force you to comply within the hour.'
The doctor decided to drop his own efforts to be nice. 'What are you, some kind of cult faith-healer? Taking that man out of this hospital would be murder, and I won't be part of it.' He turned to the security guards. 'Remove these people.'
Dharne held up a hand. One of the men placed a cell phone into it, and he spoke into it. 'Do you have the order, Ralph?' He listened, then smiled. 'Our attorney has a court order forcing you to release Brother Johnson. He will be here in ten minutes. I suggest that by the time he gets here, we should already have Brother Johnson in our arms.' He spoke again into the cell phone. 'Thank you, Ralph. Please hurry.' He snapped the cell phone shut and glowered at the doctor and the two guards. 'Now, you can comply with the law, or my little 'cult' will have a hospital to add to its possessions.' He stepped up, practically nose-to-nose with the doctor. 'One where you three will not have employment.'
'It's murder,' the doctor muttered. 'He'll die.'
'Then he will die in the company of those who love him,' Dharne said, and the people in gray all smiled. 'Now, bring him.' Still muttering, the doctor stalked off, and the guards drifted away, unsure of what to do. Dharne turned his attention back to me. 'Doctor Miles. Do you work at this hospital?'
I shook my head. 'No, I'm the one who found Mr. Johnson wandering on the highway.' I left Francine out of this; I didn't know if they had seen her with me or not. 'So, there's no need to threaten me.'
A small smirk lifted the corner of his mouth. I guess he wasn't impervious to humor, after all. 'We are grateful to you for locating Brother Johnson. His disappearance disturbed the brethren greatly.'

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In 1944, the German Underground, now calling itself The New Reich, captures 348 Greater Zionist Resistance fighters in Poland, and summarily executes them. Adolf Hitler, leader of the New Reich, issues a statement that loudly proclaims this as the new policy of the Reich. Protest across the world is weak, at best, emboldening Hitler to even worse atrocities.

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In 1938, little known counter-historian Winston S Churchill combined fiction and fact in his publication "While America Slept" and indulged in the quaint conceit of imagining what would have happened if some important or unimportant event had settled itself differently.

In Churchill's far-fetched world of American neutrality, the Nazis are eventually defeated by the Soviet Union. Without a Patton on the Elbe, the Red Army is left to race unchecked through Europe and across the Iberian Peninsula.

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In a decade-long cold war, America and Russia face each other in animosity across both the Atlantic and also the Alaskan Border, before President MacArthur attempts to reconquer the world for democracy.


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On this day in 1939, Bernard Montgomery's Gibraltar expeditionary force arrived at the besieged British colony and was immediately met with heavy Spanish resistance.

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On this day in 1941, the last pockets of Soviet resistance in Kiev surrendered to the Germans.

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In 1968, the Republican National convention opens in Miami Beach, Florida. Nixon is generally expected to win the GOP presidential nomination, but there is talk of a floor fight by the party's right wing and of a possible deal to make Arizona senator Barry Goldwater Nixon's running-mate. There have been rumors for months that Goldwater, who had refused to run for president again despite the urging of conservatives like California's Governor Ronald Reagan who are still smarting from his narrow defeat in his run against President Johnson in 1964, should be given the VP slot of the GOP ticket. Goldwater has refused to rule out accepting the offer if it should be made, and is in attendance at the convention.

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In 1999, Philippine authorities find 5 dead men in an old mosque in the province of Zamboanga del Norte. They seem to have been ripped to shreds, but the police find no evidence of a weapon that could have done it, and there is no animal native to the area capable of such a feat.

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In 1990, President George Bush declared that "America does not have a stand, vis-a-vis Arab-Arab hostilities". This allowed Iraq to hold Kuwait and siphon its resources, which it desperately needed after the disastrous war with Iran. America weathered a storm of criticism for not leading a military or diplomatic drive to push Iraq out of Kuwait, but Bush believed that he needed to stand by his old ally to provide a counterweight to Iran in the region.

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In 1921, Carla Lambert directs "Winds of the Heart", a small film about a farm family in Nebraska that is forced to deal with death, poverty and the breakup of the husband and wife's marriage. It is often cited on many critic's top 10 lists of best films of the 20th century.

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In 1911, famed actor Spangler Arlington Brugh was born in Filley, Nebraska. Always an iconoclast, he made his name starring in such costume dramas as Ivanhoe, Quo Vadis, and Knights of the Round Table. His unusual name and quirky sense of confidence endeared him to critics and audiences alike, in spite of initial misgivings at MGM, which wanted to rename him something more common, like Robert Taylor.

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In 1962, housekeeper Mrs Eunice Murray discovers that a dangerously close to death Marilyn Monroe has overdosed on the sleeping pill Nembutal. Rushing her to hospital, they just make it and the 36-old actress survives after a stomach pump. During the course of the journey, as Monroe slips in and out of consciousness, she rambles on about her affairs with the Kennedy brothers. Monroe's former husband Joe DiMaggio hears the whole tale in the hospital. Furiously realising that the "suicide" was in fact a "Father Joe" hit to silence the scandal, he repeats it in full at a press conference the following day, destroying the brother's political careers.

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In 1860, future circus owner Joseph Merrick is born in Leicester, England. Merrick's medical troubles as a child, an enormous tumor on his face, reportedly cleared up after his mother asked for a miracle from the Virgin Mary; more likely, this was just one of the many tall tales Merrick told of his past.

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In 1981, air-traffic controllers, federal employees banned from striking, confront President Mondale. In spite of temptation to have them fired and end the strike, Mondale negotiates with the controllers, and reaches a fair settlement of their grievances. Labor is forever after grateful to Mondale, but the move enrages conservatives who declare that Mondale is in the pocket of big unions.

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In 1934, in exchange for the promise of Anglo-French forces to restore public order Chancellor Heinrich Brüning quietly dropped von Hindenburg's death bed appeal for monarchist restoration by announcing the date for the Presidential election.
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The shadowy courtiers known as the Kamarilla had been forced to make the embarrassing decision to recall the former Chancellor Brüning in order to replace the dismissed Herr Hitler. The only viable alternative candidate was Von Papen but his support had evaporated during a brief Chancellorship.

In the short-term the prospects of the Weimar Republic's survival had markedly increased. In fact the British and French Governments had little choice but to act given the Versailles Treaty limitations they had placed upon the size of the Germany Army. Non-intervention would have prompted either a seizure of power by Ernst Röhm's Sturmabteilung or the restoration of the monarchy.

But there was a larger problem with the revolving doors in Weimar Germany's corridors of powers. And that was the unpredictability of the Presidential election. And after all it was not inconceivable that Herr Hitler would be restored to power despite the endeavours of the Establishment in London, Paris and Berlin.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-08-05 01:32:01 ~ A lot would depend on who got the Presidential seat. Wouldn't it be a hoot if someone like the son of the ex-Crown Prince won, fair and square? The Anglo-French would have meltdowns.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2011-08-05 01:34:41 ~ I highly doubt an election could be held. Between the Nazis and Communists they could make the election impossible if not destroyed [the activists and most of the street fighters in KZL's, the parties banned including stalking horse substitute ones, the streets patrolled by the military including nationalizing the armed wings of the Nationalists and socialists]. Even then there would be a bombing and assassination campaign that would require essentially creating the Gestapo out of the Prussian state political police.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-08-05 10:57:02 ~ I agree with Scott Palter, except that I doubt the Communists would be much of a factor by August 1934.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-08-05 17:29:44 ~ Civil war still might break out, especially depending on how much or little international meddlers give support.



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