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In 1922, actor Carroll O'Connor was born. One of those good actors who seemed to turn up in bad productions, O'Connor was cast in a British import show, Till Death Do Us Part in the 1970's, with hopes that he could carry it. Unfortunately, not even O'Connor's prodigious talent could save the show, and it was cancelled mid-season.

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In 1945, representatives of the Japanese government witnessed a demonstration shot of the atomic bomb. Shocked by an immediate understanding of what such a weapon could do to a major Japanese City, they report back to Tokyo. Japan's leaders at the Imperial conference (gozenkaigi) decided, in principle, to accept the uncompromising terms the Allies had set down for ending the war in the Potsdam Declaration. President Dewey had conceived the idea of a demonstration in preference to a civilian target, a major Japanese city. Listening now to the radio address given by Emperor Hirohito to the nation, Dewey analysed the text of the Imperial Rescript on Surrender as it was known, announcing the acceptance. Most telling was the phrase 'No Other Choice'.

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In 1988, General Sir John Winthrop Hackett; et al. Completed The Third World War, August 1985. Written from a bunker in England's West Country, the narration ends with a chilling line. 'As long as capitalism and socialism exist,' Lenin wrote, 'we cannot live in peace: in the end, one or the other will triumph-a funeral dirge will be sung either over the Soviet Republic or over world capitalism. It has been sung'

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In 1798, 'suddenly a cannonball ripped through the railing and Nelson sensed rather than felt the splinter of wood that pierced his side. He fell to the deck, clutching the would with both hands and knowing immediately that no surgeon's skills could help him this time'. ~ death of Nelson.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if John Kennedy had died in 1943? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the March 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1943, on this fateful day Lieutenant John F. "Jack" Kennedy was killed when his Military Torpedo Boat PT-109 was rammed by the Japanese destroyer Amagiri near New Georgia in the Solomon Islands. He was posthumously awarded the Navy and Marine Corps Medal.

Profiles in CourageJust one year later his elder brother Joe also died when a drone aircraft experiment went tragically wrong.

Their father Joseph P. Kennedy was a prominent American businessman, investor, and government official who had served in a number of high profiles offices including the Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission and also United States Ambassador to the Court of St. James. He subsequently used the story of his personal sacrifices during the war to demonstrate his patriotism during an unsuccessful run for the presidency in 1956.
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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-03-22 22:49:02 ~ So who wins the presdency in 1960? Humphrey? Johnson? Or is it Nixon? And what happens with Cuba and Vietnam afterward?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2012-03-22 22:49:02 ~ Since the originator of the story is a Texan, I think "all the way with LBJ" is a pretty safe bet.

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Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-03-27 00:26:09 ~ RFK would suddenly have a lot of weight on his shoulders, if the Kennedy name survive politics post Joseph, Sr.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, w if the last German armoured offensive operations on the Eastern Front in World War II was a stunning success? muses Steve Fisher. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1945, on this day the Potsdam Agreement was signed by Stalin, Truman, and Attlee. This agreement covered how post-war Germany was to be treated, and the final settlement of the war in Europe.

Operation Solstice #2
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The war in Europe had ended on May 9, 1945 with the fall of Berlin and the surrender of the Nazi government under Admiral Donitz, who had been appointed after Hitler's suicide during the Battle of Berlin. But the situation among the Allied had changed since the meeting in Yalta, and the Allies convened in Potsdam to discuss the treatment of postwar Germany, and to discuss surrender terms for Japan.

Stalin, who was the only wartime leader of the Allies to stay in power, was not pleased with how things had turned out. The Americans where occupying parts of the Soviet occupation zone which had been agreed to in the Yalta conference. He was determined that Britain and America would give him the territory that he felt he deserved. However, he met stiff resistance from Harry Truman and Clement Attlee, who were determined to limit the Soviets to controlling only the territory that they had conquered.

The Allies would leave the Potsdam Conference largely satisfied, but with some reservations. The Allies had agreed to Stalin's demand to move the border of Germany to the Oder River, and to allow the Soviets to annex East Prussia, along with an agreement for Germany to pay war reparations to the Soviet Union, and for the transfer of industry from Germany to Russia. They also recognize the Provisional Government of National Unity in Poland. But they would refuse to give the Soviets the land that had been given to them in the Yalta Conference but was currently under Allied occupation. It is a mistake they will live to regret. For Stalin leaves the conference seeing that the Allies will never willingly give him the land he wants. The only way will be to take it by force. Once the Soviets had developed their own atomic bomb in order to break the Americans soon-to-be monopoly, they would approach the Allies again with two options: The land.... or war.
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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-12-10 14:59:03 ~ Truman (assuming he still wins the 1948 election) would have responded, in effect, "Screw you." And he'd probablty have gotten away with it. In 1949, the Soviets got the bomb, but had no practical way to hit any U,S. target with it, while the United States was capable of reaching Moscow with bombers launched from Western Europe. Of course, that would have exposed America's European allies to terrible risks, but I doubt Stalin would have wanted to take a chance that the Americans wouldn't be willing to sacrifice Europeans to destroy their Cold War adversary, especially since, were the shoe on the other foot, he'd have had no problems with throwing Eastern Europe into the flames.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-12-10 15:36:47 ~ If something did happen, Israel could be caught in the mix. Stalin was a fan of Israel early on, but if they declared neutrality, that'd pull a lot of the West's support, making them less prepared for a war in the '60s.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2011-12-18 09:23:03 ~ IF this was the Western attitude they would have expanded their bridgeheads east of the Elbe and have allowed Patton to take Prague and the rest of Bohemia. However the flip side of this would be that Stalin keeps the far north of Norway, northern Iran, Manchuria, Korea and a good bit of Northern China. You can roll dice on whether he also scoops up Hokkaido and a chunk of northern Honshu. There is also likely a western v Tito shooting war over Trieste, Istria and the Italo-0Yugoslav + Yugo-Austrian borderlands.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-12-18 16:38:48 ~ I'm not sure that Stalin would have been that wildly fired-up for more land. It wasn't as though he hadn't conquered enough, and by 1945, Russia was all but bled white and exhausted.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-12-19 02:34:48 ~ Eric -- There was no limit to Stalin's designs. In our timeline, he joined the war against Japan in order to seize north korea, Manchuria and the Kuriles -- He annexed the Kuriles (and southern Sakhalin), installed Kim Il Sung in Pyongyang, stole every Japanese factory in Manchuria, and began the Chinese Civil War with war surplus weapons -- at a bargain basement price of only 100,000 dead. Re Jeff Provine -- Stalin was NEVER a fan of Israel, he was a paranoid anti-Semite. He did want the British Empire to collapse. After Golda Meir was welcomed by the Moscow masses, he became even more paranoid. In fact, Israel had only one ally for the first 20 years of its history, France, because the French hated the British.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if John Adams son Charles had died five months earlier? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1800, with the Leaders of the Federalist Party in violent disagreement over the direction of the quasi-war with France an accusatory letter brought Alexander Hamilton and John Adams to their own armed conflict, a duel in Weehawken:

British Faction"It has been repeatedly mentioned to me [Alexander Hamilton] that you [John Adams] have on different occasions asserted the existence of a British faction in this country, embracing a number of leading or influential characters of the federal party, as usually denominated ; and that you have sometimes named me, at others plainly alluded to me, as one of this description of persons.

And I have likewise been assured, that, of late, some of your warm adherents, for electioneering purposes, have employed a corresponding Ianguage. I must, sir, take it for granted that you cannot have made such assertions or insinuations without being willing to avow them, and to assign the reasons to a party who may conceive himself injured by them. I therefore trust that you will not deem it improper, that I apply directly to yourself, to ascertain from you, in reference to your own declarations, whether the information I have received is correct or not ; and if correct, what are the grounds upon which you have founded the suggestion".

In better times Adams might have adroitely sidestepped the issue with a diplomatic response, notwithstanding the poor judgement observed by Benjamin Franklin "He means well for his country, is always an honest man, often a wise man, but sometimes, and in some things, absolutely out of his senses". Unfortunately, this was a dreadful moment, not only was the Presidency slipping away from Adams but had just received the crushing news that his son Charles had died, succumbing to alcoholism at the age of just thirty.

To settle the issue, the two men met for an "interview" at a secluded spot in Weehawken, New Jersey. Adams and his supporters expected that honour would be served by both men agreeing to discharge their weapons and walk away. But Hamilton, hell-bent on self-destruction, had a more sinister plan in mind: to kill the President in a "misfire", use his position as the Major General of the Standing Army to seize the Presidency and declare war on France.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-04-09 06:29:42 ~ I wonder if Aaron Burr would have seconded one party or the other? And was Hamilton that good a shot? In the duel in OTL he tried to cheat and lost...

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2011-04-09 11:32:38 ~ Forget it, Alexander - it's Weehawken... (obscure Chinatown reference)

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-04-10 21:24:00 ~ Aaron Burr could become the hero who freed America!



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Nazis had used their secret weapons? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the January 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1940, on this day the Nazi UFOs in "hot pursuit" of the fleeing British Government turned back after a cabal of American Nazi businessmen convinced the Fuhrer that North America would soon fall to a Quisling-style coup d'etat.

Hot PursuitWith the RAF swept from the skies by next generation flying saucers, Operation Sealion had proceeded with frightening pace forcing Churchill to plan a strategic withdrawal to establish a Government-in-Exile in Canada. Hitler ordered Goering to destroy the Royal Navy ships carrying both the Cabinet and also the Royal Household. However, for the second time in six months, he ordered a last minute halt operation that enraged (and confounded) the German armed services.

In the United States, Nazi sympathisers such as Henry Ford, Walt Disney, Prescott Bush and Alfred P. Sloan were confident that they could overthrow the government. However the sudden opening of an Atlantic theatre might prove counter-productive to their plans, and therefore they convinced the Fuhrer that such a move was unnecessary. Instead, Edward VIII and Oswald Mosley formed a new government in London, one that could demonstrate the semblance of sovereignty that would force Churchill to capitulate, and perhaps convince the silent majority of Americans to come around to the idea of joining the Axis.

But then the situation changed dramatically; the benign alien race known as the Mlosh landed in Canada. In his diary that night, Churchill wrote the famous words: "To have the Mlosh at our side was to me the greatest joy. Now at this very moment I knew the Mlosh was in the war, up to the neck and in to the death. So we had won after all!...Hitler's fate was sealed. Mussolini's fate was sealed. As for the Japanese, they would be ground to powder". It was an amazing reversal of fortune for the blue-bloods; the tide of war had finally turned (green)..


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Facebook Comment Comment from Joe Mwangi on Facebook: The Nazi's wonder weapons-the V1 and V2 rockets-came too late to impact the war.Then Hitler made a strategic blunder.Instead of using the V2 to bomb London,he should have used them to bomb the Western allies landing grounds at Normandy

Facebook Comment Comment from Margo Barotta on Facebook: he Nazis had many secret weapons but they did not had the chance to use it

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-12-23 12:54:30 ~ The Nazis BOASTED of secret weapons, but how well any of them would actually have worked is open to question. The Nazi "flying saucer," for nstance, reportedly barely got off the ground. (And of course, if the Nazis were the known source of such a device, it wouldn't qualify as a UFO, an *unidentified* flying object.)

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-12-23 14:51:59 ~ And their rocket fighter program was a disaster.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-12-23 18:10:10 ~ I'd like to see a Disney World built on Nazi/UFO technology. Space Mountain would be a truly stellar ride.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the courier sent by Napoleon reached Admiral Brueys before Nelson could launch a surprise attack on the French Fleet moored at Aboukir Bay? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1789, with France under constant bombardment in the Revolutionary Wars as seemingly all of the European Crowns turned against the upstart Republic, General Napoleon Bonaparte launched his Egyptian campaign in an effort to put pressure on India and, hopefully, draw Britain out of the war.

French Rout English Fleet at Alexandria His fleet sailed south disguising its agenda, conquering Malta and moving rapidly toward its final destination of Alexandria. While the fleet under Admiral François-Paul Brueys d'Aigalliers anchored in Aboukir Bay, Napoleon began his conquest with his land armies. Brueys supported Napoleon with naval bombardments, but by July 27 Napoleon was eager for the admiral to move on to better harbors. He dispatched a courier to Brueys ordering him to move to Corfu in Greece to prepare for campaigns against the Ottomans.

A new story by Jeff ProvineAs the fleet left sight of the shore of Egypt, it came upon the British fleet under Admiral Nelson that had been pursuing them throughout the Mediterranean. With little time to maneuver, both admirals threw their fleets against one another. The more daring Nelson split his fleet, hoping to achieve a crossfire, but the moving French managed to stay beside the British ships, trading blows. The battle lasted until after dark, when the English began to move away.

While tactically indecisive itself, the battle would be proclaimed a French victory. Without many harbors to support them, the British fleet would retreat out of the Mediterranean. Worse, the brave Admiral Nelson would be mortally wounded, struck down by French snipers from the rigging. The battered French fleet would regroup with other ships, building up the force that would later destroy the Ottoman navy and establish French dominance over the Mediterranean.

Napoleon, using easy supply trains across Mediterranean waters, conquered Egypt and moved northward through Judea and Syria. In 1800, he marched on Asia Minor, beginning a string of battles that would finally dethrone the Ottoman Sultan and break the empire into small protectorates of France. In 1802, Britain had hopes of establishing a Second Coalition with Austria, but the Austrian emperors, now free to dominate the Balkans, joined with their former enemies, the French.

Meanwhile, Napoleon continued east through Persia. Many began to fear his egotism as he spoke of himself as the new Alexander, but his victories could not be dismissed. Some called for his return to France, but Napoleon felt confident to press to India, just as his militaristic predecessor had done some two thousand years before.

Britain continued the war alone for three years, but as Napoleon conquered the Indus and headed toward lower India, they sued for peace. At the Treaty of Trafalgar in 1805, establishing in writing the French dominance of the Mediterranean that had been maintained by battle for years, the war came to an end. Napoleon seemed ravenous for more conquest, and the government feared he would turn on France itself. Instead, they sent him on a sort of exile to be the military governor of the huge tract Louisiana in North America, newly won back from the Spanish in the Third Treaty of San Ildefonso.

Napoleon would solidify his command in New Orleans and launch expeditions of exploration and settlement into the countryside. Friction would build between the French and the Americans, who, under President Thomas Jefferson, had purchased shipping rights in the Mississippi as a shared border. Finally, in 1812, war would be declared as Indians in Tecumseh's War were believed by Americans to be supplied by Napoleon.

The frontier war was brutal, and the naval battles in the Gulf and Caribbean devastated both countries' western Atlantic fleets. Napoleon knew he did not have enough troops for a wide front, so he decided to build up a Grande Arm?e and march up the Ohio River Valley with the final goal of Washington, D.C. The gamble would prove a blunder as American civilians and soldiers alike would plague the French with snipers and guerrilla combat. Before his planned crossing of the Appalachians (perhaps to match another hero, Hannibal), Napoleon decided to turn back.

The final battle of the War of 1812 was near New Orleans, where Col. Andrew Jackson marched to take the nearly unguarded capital. Napoleon raced back, rallied his men, and counterattacked in another gamble that would fail as Jackson's troops hid behind wagons and trees (fighting "without honor" as Americans were known to do). Artillery seemingly disintegrated the American force, but the stalwart frontiersmen slipped behind the French and captured Napoleon in his command tent.

The war ended with the Treaty of New Orleans, where France would surrender its Louisiana colony and Americans pay reparations for property and life lost to a total of 78 million francs (15 million dollars). The embarrassed Napoleon would be sent to Haiti as governor without arms, and he would die in 1821, some say of a broken heart.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality, the courier sent to Admiral Brueys would be slain by Bedouin, never to arrive. The French fleet was anchored still in Aboukir Bay, hoping to be protected by shoals and forts, but the daring Nelson maneuvered to catch them in a devastating crossfire. Without his fleet, Napoleon's Egyptian Campaign would eventually crumble, but not before he would return to France to begin a career giving up colonial conquests and instead building an empire from Europe itself.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-01 17:09:56 ~ How would this prevent the Haitian Revolution from happening? Haiti was a powder keg and the French Revolution, in effect, threw a lit match into it.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-08-01 20:01:19 ~ More like a blowtorch... ;)

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-02 17:14:13 ~ The primary slave revolts in Haiti were fallout from Napoleonic influence bringing a return to slavery in the French colonies. If they'd kept freedom and the Rights of Man were actually upheld through the French Revolution, who knows what wouldn't have happened?

Facebook Comment Comment from Margo Barotta on Facebook: if the courier sent by napoleon arrive before the attack of nelson i think that will be a turning point in the battle ,maybe the french will be able to stop in the face of the british and not wait the surprise.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if America had respected the principles of the Atlantic Charter? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1946, American President Harry S. Truman spoke to the citizens of the United States by radio address to announce his support for a free and independent Vietnam. The news came as a shock to many in his administration, who view the restoration of French rule in Indochina as key to gaining French President Georges Bidault's support against an increasingly belligerent Soviet Union.

President Truman Guarantees Vietnamese Statehood by Andrew BeaneTruman's address began with the words: "My fellow Americans, it is my decision, against the advice of many within my administration, that the United States of America will recognize the Democratic Republic of Vietnam as a free and independent nation among nations". He went on to say that before such recognition can take place, Vietnamese President Ho Chi Minh must give the US assurance that his government will not become a client state of the Soviet Union, and that the Soviet Military will not set foot in Vietnamese territory. President Ho has already denied that he has sought Soviet assistance, insisting that after the devastating war against Adolf Hitler, Moscow was in no position to extend support to a place as remote as Vietnam.

"United States of America recognize[s] the Democratic Republic of Vietnam as a free and independent nation among nations" ~ TrumanFrance is not likely to take this decision by Truman in a friendly manner. President Bidault has contended that the restoration of France's colonies that fell under foreign rule or were otherwise lost during the war was essential to rebuilding France. Upon hearing the address, the French Ambassador to the US, Henri Bonnet, accused the United State of coveting rubber reserves in "French territory". Vietnam has already appeared in Washington-Paris relations, with former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt insisting that the Vietnamese people, like all peoples of the world, deserved to live under the government of their choosing, though he died before being able to make a definitive decision to support Vietnamese independence.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-01-27 07:41:05 ~ The French would be MAJORLY PO'd...and the British probably wouldn't be happy either.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-01-27 08:46:41 ~ French spite wrecks teh Marshal Plan and prevents the formation of both West Germany and NATO. Anyone still think the trade is worth it? Us colonial policy was made by the Europe desk at State. Europe was more important.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-01-27 14:07:36 ~ One wonders whether the French (or the British) would be in a position to let "spite" ruin the Marshall Plan, considering the dire economic straits in which they found themselves after WWII. The Plan was in much greater danger from conservatives in the U.S. Congress.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2010-01-27 15:35:46 ~ IOW losing Indochina would matter less than dealing with another Paris Commune. Makes sense on a rational level but on a knee-jerk one it would be a gamble.

Facebook Comment Comment from Scott and Karol Becker on Facebook: we might not have had the Vietnam war?...I have a question mark at the end of my statement because if we are going to be an international power we are going to be involved in this crap ...like it or not...it's unfortunate

Facebook Comment Comment from Mary Ann on Facebook: it's all been lies, right from the beginning....but the true believer's have never fell into the lies..ty

Facebook Comment Comment from Edwinna C Staten on Facebook: Appears that many someones failed to remember this advice.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-08-01 03:06:33 ~ Not really an option at the time. The US was preoccupied with 12 million returning soldiers, inflation, housing shortages, and all sorts of social issues put off by the Depression and WWII. The French had similar problems, and the English... don't get me started. Truman had no need to start an international crisis while the communists were taking over French unions.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, the alphabetic ordering of leaders during the funeral of Pope John Paul II on 8 April 2005 resulted in the Israeli President Moshe Katsav sitting near Iranian President Mohammad Khatami. By coincidence, both men were born in the City of Yazd in Iran. Katsav told the press that he shook Khatami's hand and spoke to him in Persian. Khatami later denied this (source - Wikipedia). We imagine a strikingly different future, yet as we often suggest, modify the context and the outcome doesn't necessarily change too much. Our thanks to our valued colleague Mr Eric Lipps for his decisive contribution to the development of this story. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In the year 2559, of the Cyrus era Moshe Katsav (pictured) assumed the role of Grand Vizier of Persia on this day.

Born in the city of Yazd in the Shir Kuh valley fifty-five years before, he would become the first Kalami (ethnic Jew) to be given the absolute power of attorney by the Shahanshah (the "King of Kings"), Reza Pahlavi (the only precedent for such an appointment was Joseph, the eleventh son of Jacob, Vizier to the Egyptian Pharaoh).

Moshe Kasav appointed the first Jewish Grand Vizier of PersiaThe same Hebrew scripture also recorded the rise of Esther, a Jewish woman to Queen of Persia, and her role in stopping the plot of Haman, chief advisor to the Persian king, to wipe out all Jews living in Persia. Also the book of Ezra 6:14 recorded the ancient bond with the Persian monarchs who are credited with permitting and enabling the Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild their Temple; its reconstruction was affected "according to the decree of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia" by which time there was a well-established and influential Jewish community in Persia.

"Our family has lived in Iran for 2,500 years, and Iranian Jewry has the long history in that land". ~ KatsavThe Middle Persian ancestor of the word "Vizier" in Pahlavi is vichir, which in turn originated from Avestan vichira, meaning decreer or arbitrator. Unfortunately the great minister and chief legislator of the Shahanshah would himself fall foul of the laws of Persia and also Hebrew scripture. Charged with criminal activities, his "burder of office" would end prematurely, just seven years later.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-07-06 04:51:05 ~ Is this in a timeline where Persia stayed Zoroastrian?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-07-06 05:08:03 ~ Eric all we can say for sure in this first post is that there's no Israel, no Islamic Revolution and a very old Shah in the year 2000. thanks for developing the thinking on this thread, all the same! Watch this space...

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-07-06 14:44:22 ~ I will, trust me.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2010-06-06 21:43:32 ~ "Our family has lived in Iran for 2,500 years, and Iranian Jewry has the long history in that land". Sort of redundant.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-06-07 00:54:52 ~ Evidently the Shah, in this timeline, either never got cancer or was successfully treated for it. And if there's no Israel, why? Is the divergence something in modern times which prevented the Holocaust? Or is it, as the use of the "Cyrus era" suggests, something much further back? In the latter case, the modern historical figures mentioned would likely have never been born--though there might be different individuals with those names.



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In 1979, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her Foreign Secretary Lord Peter Carrington quit the fifth Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) less than one hour after their ill-fated arrival in Lusaka, Zambia. The fifteen-year armed struggle known variously as the Rhodesia Bush War, Second Chimurenga or the Zimbabwe Liberation Struggle would soon reach an apocalyptic outcome.

British Delegation Quit Lusaka ConferenceThe new Conservative administration had only been elected weeks before on 31st May, and Thatcher adopted much the same approach to Rhodesia as to Northern Ireland - a steely determination that terrorists should play no role in a future Government. Carrington had given the matter much deeper thought from the Opposition benches in the House of Lords, but for all intents and purposes was very much of the same mind.
Ironically, 31st May had been the last day in office for Rhodesian Prime Minister Ian Smith. Smith had made way for Bishop Abel Muzorewa, the so-called white man's black prime minister. Yet the civil war continued unabated, costing the Rhodesian economy £500,000 a day and having resulting in the exodus of 20% of the pre-1965 population of White Rhodesia. Worse, over 50% of the defence bill was being paid by the Republic of South Africa, and Robert Mugabe's Patriotic Front was in complete control of the eastern region of the country.
Not only was the white farmer cause lost, the Internal Settlement for Zimbabwe Rhodesia was a dead letter with Bishop Muzorewa powerless to stop the escalating violence.
Thatcher and Carrington arrived in Lusaka convinced that the settlement would be signed in an only slightly modified format; the majority of the CHOGM would insist upon a completely fresh start for Zimbabwe. Most objectionable was the right for the white minority to veto constitutional change in the new successor state. A core group led by the Commonwealth Secretary General Shridath Ramphal planned three days of escalating pressure followed by two days of intensity; it would not prove necessary.
The British Journalist Anthony Verrier described the climax of the conference ~
"Upon her arrival, Thatcher was hustled into a VIP lounge by the overenthusiatic Zambian media and emerged forty minutes later, shaken and close to tears. The British Prime Minister had been subject to a grilling a hostile witness might get at a murder trial. Uncharacteristically losing control, she had faltered, exclaiming she would return to London 'tonight!'.
Carrington was the pivot on which all manoeuvres turned. He was in a difficult, possible a dangerous mood. A few hours before .. Shell-BP in Nigeria had been expropriated. Carrington had ignored the warning as imminent, believing it to be merely a prospective, a means of applying pressure on Mrs Thatcher at an opportune moment, during a crisis. Carrington lost his temper .. when Nigeria's Commissioner for External Affairs, Major-General Adefope almost discourteously dismissed the expropriation, Carrington's temper was not improved when Mrs Thatcher rebuked him in front of journalists. Adefope merely shrugged and said he had to see the Queen when Carrington furiously declared that expropriating Shell-BP would not affect British policy on Rhodesia"..
Twenty four hours later, Bishop Murorewa fled the country and the Commander of the Combined Operations Headquarters of the Military of Rhodesia General Peter Walls issued a stark warning. The crusty Sandhurst graduate, who had spent much of the past seven years fighting the guerrillas said that he had determined his ~ "own response to the tragic conflict of loyalties with which I have myself wrestled for perhaps too long".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, The events described for the evening of 31st July / 1st August are unchanged although Mrs Thatcher regained her self-composure and did not quit the conference. Peter Walls did contact Thatcher afterwards to ask whether the British Government would tolerate Robert Mugabe's electoral victory - even though in an act of reconcialation, Mugabe had invited Walls to stay on (which he did). Walls quote was of course said by the subsequent British Foreign Secretary Geoffrey Howe in relation to his own differences with Margaret Thatcher and is used out of context to suggest an apocalyptic outcome wich is not described.


Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2008-09-18 19:30:15 ~ The Brits always did place too much importance on composure...

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2008-09-19 01:20:14 ~ Interesting start. I want to see where this goes next....

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2008-09-19 13:00:45 ~ Sir you can click the hyperlink in the first sentence to follow the story, more posts are planned and we're considering short-term steps such as a strike by the Rhodesia SAS on the the Patriotic Front leaders, also a very different Third Chimurenga for the year 2000.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2008-09-19 22:04:47 ~ Interesting, though it's a bit out of my usual field.



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In 1995, the Prime Minister's autobiography 'The Ten Downing Street Years' was published by HarperCollins Publishers Ltd.

Falklands Emergency Part 10 - Strategic Significance by Ed.Chapter VII The Falklands: Defeat (the battle for the Falklands in May and June 1982) reads ~ "The islands had obvious strategic importance , possessing several good harbours with 500 miles of Cape Horn. When the Panama Canal was closed by World War Three in 1989, their significance became considerable.
But it must be admitted that the Falklands were always an improbable cause for a twentieth-century war". ~ Lady Margaret Thatcher, Conservative Leader and UK Prime Minister 1983-1992.
To be continued..


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Seaside Resort

In 1940, on this day the last remnants of the German airborne landing force near Blackpool were captured by Canadian troops. The Blackpool raid's failure by itself would have been a bitter enough pill for Hitler to swallow, but to add insult to injury British prime minister Winston Churchill gleefully announced the next day that Kurt Student -- founder of the Luftwaffe paratroop corps and architect of the Blackpool assault plan ? was among the prisoners.

Seaside Resort - of Blackpool
of Blackpool

Hitler never forgave Student for the Blackpool defeat-- and neither did Luftwaffe commander-in-chief Hermann Goering, who promptly cashiered Student in absentia and ordered that he be arrested and court-martialed for incompetence the moment he returned to Germany. At one point Goering even considered abolishing the Luftwaffe's paratrooper branch altogether.


Post-World War II historians would later cite the Allied victory at Blackpool as the moment when the Third Reich's military fortunes started to change for the worse; some of those historians even cited it as a factor in Soviet ruler Joseph Stalin's subsequent decision to invade German-occupied territories in western Poland in the spring of 1941.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, The Sky News article of February 23rd reads ~ Blackpool was off-limits to the Luftwaffe during World War Two because Hitler wanted the seaside town as a "playground", uncovered documents reportedly reveal. The Fuhrer apparently wanted to hoist the Nazi flag up Blackpool Tower and base the headquarters for his paratroopers there.
Uncovered intelligence maps reportedly reveal Hitler's intention to spare the Lancashire resort during his planned invasion of Great Britain.
York-based publisher Michael Cole brought the documents back from Germany about a year ago, he said.
The papers go toward explaining why the resort escaped unscathed during the Blitz - especially considering there were major British aircraft manufacturing factories situated there.
"These maps will be the source of much interest particularly to those who lived here through the Second World War," said Elaine Smith, chairman of Blackpool's Civic Trust.
"It had been known that Hitler intended to use Blackpool as his personal playground after what he hoped to be a successful invasion and the war ended.
"He probably wanted to keep the resort as it was so he could enjoy it as Chancellor of Britain."
The maps also detail the Nazi leader's invasion plans - which included marching soldiers along the coastline.
The Italian Gardens in Stanley Park was to be used as a guide for paratroopers because the paths formed a perfect compass.




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On this day in 2018 former CSI regular Paul Guilfoyle returned to television as host of a documentary marking the centennial anniversary of the Boston Red Sox' 1918 World Series championship.

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On this day in 2016, Paramount Pictures announced that producer Michael Bay, who'd worked with Jerry Bruckheimer on the movies Pearl Harbor and Armageddon, would finish the screenplay for the stalled third CSI movie.

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Michael Bay

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In 1961, President John F. Kennedy confers at the White House with NASA chief T. Keith Glennan and agency chief scientist Wernher von Braun, the latter still wearing a brace on his right arm. At that meeting, he raises serious questions as to whether the Dyna-Soar can be made to work as envisioned, and whether, if missions to the moon are to be pursued, it will be necessary to use a different propulsion system.

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Von Braun insists the Dyna-Soar's boosters, code-named Zeus, can be perfected. Somewhat recklessly, he points out that the rockets he developed for Germany before and during World War II had their share of problems as well, but ultimately worked. This does not sit well with Kennedy, who had served in the Navy during that war.

At the close of the meeting, he asks Glennan to stay behind briefly and asks him bluntly: "How badly do we really need an ex-Nazi like von Braun?"

Glennan, who has had his share of run-ins with the scientist, reluctantly asserts that the German expatriate is vital to the U.S. space effort's success--to which Kennedy responds: "Then it had damn well better start succeeding again!"


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In 1944 on this day American and Free French troops surrounded Waffen-SS units at the town of Dijon. The resulting five-day siege would be immortalized in the American press as "the Battle of the Bulge".

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In 1975, the cremated remains of Jimmy Hoffa were secretly shipped out of the Grand Lawn Cemetery, a short drive from the Machus Red Fox restaurant in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. The ex-Teamsters President was no stranger to the underworld of American society. Yet he had recently entered a whole new league of danger. In 1971, to secure his prison release, Hoffa had made a payment of half a million dollars to President Richard Nixon and his attorney general, John Mitchell.

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Jimmy Hoffa

Trouble was he had been banned from union activities. As part of his comback plan, he had recently threatened to reveal the mob's entanglement with Teamsters pension funds -- even though he himself turned the Central States Pension Fund into the Mafia's private piggy bank. Organized crime wanted to shut him up. So did the White House.


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On this day in 1971, President Richard Nixon declared a nationwide state of emergency in the US as an airborne plague which had mutated from a biological weapon developed by China in the late 1960s continued to ravage most of America's major cities. The bioweapon from which the plague evolved had been used by the Chinese against Soviet troops three months earlier as a vicious border war between China and the Soviet Union escalated.

US President - Richard Nixon
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On this day in 2014, Jerry Bruckheimer's movie adaptation of CSI: Crime Scene Investigations officially became the highest-grossing theatrical film of all time.    

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In 1939, on this day Spain without warning or provocation attacked the British outpost at Gibraltar, triggering the Second World War. Spanish Falangist dictator Francisco Franco had been planning this attack for years in revenge for his country's defeat by the Allies in the First World War; he was strongly encouraged to do so by his Axis partners Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, both of whom stood to benefit from a successful Spanish conquest of Gibraltar.

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Franco & Hitler

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In 1965, after reading a CIA report which says that Castro's rebels are gaining support in the Cuban countryside, President Johnson orders another 75,000 troops sent to the island. Accompanying them will be CIA covert operations forces charged with identifying and 'neutralizing' Castro supporters among the populace, under the code name Operation New Broom. "We're going to sweep that country clean", CIA Director Vice-Admiral William Raborn promises.

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On this day in 1947, the US Army Corps of Engineers dispatched a construction battalion to Roswell to aid rebuilding efforts as the city continued its recovery from the July 6th asteroid strike.

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On this day in 1953, President Syngman Rhee formally proclaimed the re-establishment of a unified Korean nation.

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In 1798, during the evening, the Battle of Aboukir Bay was joined between a British fleet commanded by Rear-Admiral Horatio Nelson and a French fleet under Vice-Admiral Francois-Paul Brueys D'Aigalliers. French losses have been estimated to have been as high as 1,700 dead (including Vice-Admiral Brueys) and 3,000 captured. British losses were 218 dead. Including Nelson, of course. The Battle of the Nile would have profound consequences for North America.

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In 2003, on this day the compendium "A Collection of Political Counterfactuals' was published. Simon Burns' masterful entry "What if Lee Harvey Oswald had missed?" was a keynote contribution, considering the scenario where John Kennedy had served as U.S. president until 1968. The essence of Burns' masterpiece is the competition of mysterious forces at Dallas. Two green pinpricks are amongst the ocean of eyes who watch the Kennedy's plane land at Love Field. The presidential motorcade turns the corner at Dealey Plaza 12.29pm. Amongst the many placards of warm welcome, one says Snake Eyes watching you. Kennedy instinctively ducks, and the assassins bullets thud harmlessly into the upholstery of the 1961 Lincoln Continental.

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In 1938, and through the smooth operation of Dane law, Winston Spencer Churchill accepted the office of Minister President of the Scandinavian Union. The appointment of Churchill was of historic significance for three reasons, one somewhat embarrassing. Churchill was the first Celt to be so named. And he was the first Celt since King Harold Godwinson II to rule the British Isles exactly one millennia before. Finally he could drink a whole longboat of Vikings under the table. "It is my policy never to leave the pub before closing time" was one of the bulldog's more famous expressions, presumably said around closing time.

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In 1914, the Italian Government honours the Central Powers pacts by declaring war against Russia, and France two days later. Allied hopes of a southern front were dashed, and historians generally believe the additional resources of the Central Powers extended the war until 1920.

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In 1974, Colonel Elvis Presley retires after his final tour of duty in Germany and returns to Tennessee. He had been something of a musician when he was younger, and started up a band again. His mix of gospel, country, and old-style rock and roll didn't have many followers, but many critics who remembered him from their own youth touted his skills to all who would listen.

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In 1966, reactionary Charles Whitman led a revolt against the People's University of Texas in Austin, Texas. Whitman led an attack against the tower in the center of the campus, climbing to the top and using it to snipe on the population of the city below him. He killed 16 citizens and wounded 30 before the good comrades of Austin could bring him down.

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In 1943, PT-109 is sunk in a naval engagement in the South Pacific. Lost in the fight was Ambassador Joseph Kennedy's son, John; the first of 2 Kennedy boys lost in World War II. Ambassador Kennedy uses the story of his personal sacrifices during the war to demonstrate his patriotism during his run for the presidency in 1956.

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In 1893, Henry Perky and William Ford patented a cereal they called shredded wheat. This unappetizing goop was briefly embraced as a cure-all, but most people rarely made it past one bowl of the stuff. Some food historians occasionally make it for the curious, but it remains a curiosity of the 19th century.

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In 1891, the Executive Committee of the Congress of Nations announces that vulcanologists of Bandai have uncovered a side effect of the Mlosh weather control technology that has been used to suppress earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. The crust of the earth has become weakened, and unless measures are taken, within 10 years, there will be too many earthquakes and volcanic eruptions to stop.

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In 1779, composer Francis Scott Key was born. After the birth of the North American Confederation, he penned its national anthem, The Star-Dotted Heavens.

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In 1892, Kaiser Wilhem II showcased the SMS Meteor I at the Cowes Regata. There was a sharp edge to his competitiveness. Whilst he greatly admired the British, he detested any form of humiliation; in short, he was a poor loser. Therefore in defeat, his first inclination was to build a bigger, faster version - SMS Meteor II - for the 1895 Regata. Anticipating this childish reaction, Wilhelm's uncle, the Prince of Wales, and his cousin, Prince George proposed the formation of a German-British team. They bonded to the great surprise of both families, beginning a fresh relationship between the Royal Navy and the Kriegsmarine that would inevitably lead to the Anglo-German Naval Treaty of 1900.

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