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Todayinah Editor Editor says, What if the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1920 instead led to a 32-county Republic of Ireland? And what if President Eamon De Valera was present in the Irish delegation at the Treaty negotiations? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1921, on this day both the Irish and British government delegates sign the Anglo-Irish Treaty at Downing Street; thereby bringing an end to a conflict between British forces and Irish militants across the island of Ireland since April 1916, not to mention seven centuries of occupation of the British government over it's island neighbour.

A Republic With A Price by Gerry ShannonDays after the Truce that had ended the Anglo-Irish War, the President of the Irish Republic, Eamon De Valera met British Prime Minister Lloyd George in London four times in the week starting 14th July. Lloyd George sent his initial proposals on 20th July that were quite a departure from the Treaty that was eventually signed. This was followed by months of delay until October, when the Irish delegates set up headquarters in 22 Hand Pace, Knightsbridge.

The first two weeks of the negotiations were spent in formal sessions. Upon the request of De Valera and his Secretary of State for Finance (and Director of Intelligence in the Irish Republican Army), Michael Collins, the two delegations began informal negotiations, in which only two members of each negotiation team were allowed to attend (pictured). On the Irish side, these members were always Collins and De Valera, while on the British side, Neville Chamberlain always attended, though the second British negotiator would vary from day to day.

In late November, the Irish delegation returned to Dublin as per De Valera's promise to his cabinet colleagues to consult them, and again on 3rd December. Many points still had to be resolved, mainly surrounding the unionist allegiance to an Irish republic, but it was clear to all the politicians involved by this stage that it was not an option to partition the country into two states, north and south; thereby granting the unionist minority a majority in a six-county Northern Ireland state.

Collins, who would emerge in the new government as Commander of the Irish Republican Army, said later that at the last minute Lloyd George reminded his own delegation of a renewal of a "terrible and immediate war" from the Irish republicans if the Treaty was not signed at once. However, this was not mentioned as a fear in the Irish memorandum about the close of negotiations, merely a reflection of the reality; given the British forces having become increasingly overwhelmed by IRA activities across Ireland within the last few years.

Among noteworthy clauses of the Treaty were:

In Dublin, Vice-President of the Irish Republic, Arthur Griffith called a cabinet meeting to discuss the treaty on 8th December, the Vice-President himself supporting the Treaty as signed. The cabinet decided unanimously to recommend the Treaty to the Dáil on 14th December.

The Dáil voted to approve the Treaty, but this vote was problematic given the unionist minority, led by Edward Carson, still refused to recognize the government of the Irish Republic and were listed as being absent. The brewing discontent between nationalists and unionists would soon lead to the Irish Civil War. The refusal of the Irish delegation to allow the creation of a Northern Ireland state for the unionist minority would be a serious point of consternation between both sides; reverberating in conflicts political, social and violent for decades to follow.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, much of the material is re-written from the Wikipedia article on the Anglo-Irish Treaty.


Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-12-11 23:16:52 ~ Looks pretty good, though I wonder how stable this united Ireland would have been given the way Protestants and Catholics were distributed geographically and the way they felt about each other. But shouldn't it be a "six-county" rather than "six-country" Northern Ireland which would not be formed? Fixed - thanks. Ed

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2009-12-11 23:47:06 ~ Don't see it happening. Here's another scenario: Instead of hanging the Easter Rebellion captives, the British sent them to the Salonika Front and had them haul supplies. There wouldn't have been any martyrs and Ireland might never have rebelled.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-12-11 23:54:10 ~ Dev going to London is even more a fantasy than London handing over Ulster. A bit more Ulster land was possible, especially in Derry, but this is ASB land.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-12-12 00:59:05 ~ Like Scott, I don't really see Ulster becoming part of a United Ireland, given the centuries of division, yet even if they did somehow manage to force both North & South together, I'd be tipping a civil war breaking out not long after the British left.

Readers Comment Gerry Shannon commented on 2009-12-12 01:24:06 ~ I do play with the notion of an alternative Irish Civil War in the very last paragraph. It is possible in this reality the IRA were able to recieve a steady supply of arms and exhaust the British forces, which was certainly not the case in the real timeline, indeed, the military leaders such as Collins realised the British didn't cop the IRA's arms supplies were nearly exhausted from the Tan War and knew the Truce and and offer of Treaty negotiations had to be taken adavantage of. Also, regarding Dev in the Treaty negotiations, it's been speculated by historians such as Tim Coogan that Dev realised they would have not been able to get their best deal out of the Treaty (i.e. all 32 counties) and didn't want to take the blame for partition; a notion backed up by him subsequently joining the anti-Treaty side in the Civil War. Given here the Irish delegation apparently has real power in negotiations, naturally he wishes to be at the forefont.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-12-12 06:59:16 ~ This would set off rounds of Troubles that made OTL look like a beautiful fantasy-land.







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