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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Elizabeth Tailboys had been acknowledged as the King' daughter? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1558, on this day Queen Mary I of England died and was succeeded by Elizabeth Tailboys, Henry VIII's illegitimate daughter born to his long-time lover Bessie Blount.

Elizabethan Era BeginsHer ascension triggered an immediate challenge from Mary's half-sister, who confusingly was also called Elizabeth (Tudor, pictured). And the resulting Civil War was therefore known as the Elizabethan Era, which of course drew to a sudden close when King Phillip of Spain's armada set sail.

The pretender's prospects of success were greatly enhanced by the clear landing zone [1] she organized. And when she finally seized the throne and threw Tailboys into the Tower of London, Elizabeth Tudor, that traitorous Spanish stool pidgeon was sarcastically labelled "Good Queen Bess".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in authoring this post we have repurpose content from Daily Mail and Wikipedia which suggest - Elizabeth Tailboys would have changed the course of English history had the King acknowledged her as his.
[1] as suggested by Jeff Provine.


Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-17 15:12:55 ~ But Ms. Tailboys would still have been merely an acknowledged bastard, like the Duke of Monmouth...and his revolt dismally failed.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-11-17 18:08:42 ~ Tailboys would have had her tail *grin* kicked, but good. And she'd have probably ended up in the Tower.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-18 01:00:32 ~ She'd have ended up in the tower if she was very lucky, Eric...because Monmouth was beheaded on the tower green.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-11-27 18:25:11 ~ Bloody uprising after bloody uprising. Would there be anyone left to fight off an armada?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Sir Walter Raleigh had been acquitted? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the September 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1603, on this day Sir Walter Raleigh was acquitted. Upon the death of Queen Elizabeth in 1603, many Catholics saw the time of transition when Scottish James I took the English throne as the chance to overthrow the Protestant government.

Sir Walter Raleigh Acquitted England had officially separated from Rome in 1534 under Henry VIII, who repeatedly fought to keep his position as head of the Church of England. The wars continued, primarily with Spain, through the reign of his daughter Elizabeth, though she would take a fairly neutral stance on Catholicism compared to Henry. The Virgin Queen had no issue, and the crown passed to her relative James VI of Scotland, who was not uniformly welcomed to the throne.

In the midst of the uneasiness, many Catholics thought that a single push would overthrow the Protestant rule of the country, and conspiracies were born. Most famous would be the Gunpowder Plot in 1605 with its close-call to the destruction of Parliament, but there would also be Bye Plot (in which Catholic priests hoped to kidnap James I to force the repeal of anti-Catholic laws) and the Main Plot both in 1603. Funded by Spain and led by men such as Henry Brooke, his brother Sir George (who would be executed after trial in the Bye Plot), and military man Thomas Grey, the plot involved raising up an army to storm London and place James's cousin Arabella on the throne. Henry Brooke, the Lord Cobham, was in contact with the court of Spain and would collect money for the plot by travelling circuitously from London to Brussels to Spain and then back to London via Jersey, where Sir Walter Raleigh was governor. As the conspiracy came to trial, Raleigh would be dragged into it.

A new story by Jeff ProvineRaleigh was familiar with scandal. He had secretly married one of the Queen's ladies-in-waiting, Elizabeth Throckmorton, without permission in 1591, and the couple was imprisoned in the Tower of London. Shortly thereafter, however, Raleigh was released as he was one of the leading Englishmen with knowledge of the New World and worked to divide the spoils of the captured Spanish Madre de Dios. His fortunes would bounce back, just as they had after his failed experiment with Roanoke Colony. In 1593, he was made a burgess and later elected to Parliament (sitting for three counties in 1603). The next year, he came upon the story of "El Dorado", a golden city at the headwaters of the Caroni River, a tributary of the Orinoco, and traveled to explore the northern coast of South America. Upon his return, Raleigh wrote The Discovery of Guiana and made exciting, if exaggerated, claims about his voyage. He returned to favor with exploits in battles with Spain and was named Governor of Jersey, from which he would be recalled in 1603 under suspicion of conspiracy and treason.

Cobham had given a sworn confession involving Raleigh, attempting to name names as his brother George Brooke had done turning Cobham in during the Bye trials. Raleigh denounced the evidence as "hearsay", which was outright inadmissible in common law, though it could be heard in this civil law case of treason. General Attorney Edward Coke, who was new to his position and gaining great fame as he prosecuted numerous treasonous conspirators, refused to allow Cobham to testify in person as Cobham was described by contemporaries to say "one thing at one time, and another thing in another, and could be relied upon in nothing". Coke used personal attacks such as "notorious traitor", "vile viper" and "damnable atheist" in lieu of actual evidence, and finally Raleigh was able to point out that Coke was acting simply out of desperation in his duty to prosecute by order of the king. James I recognized this, and the charges were dismissed.

Raleigh returned to his positions and completing his improvements of the Jersey defenses before pressing on with his aspirations of discovering El Dorado. He gathered investors and equipment for not just an expedition, but a colony at the delta of the Orinoco to supply further expeditions up river. Raleigh's bravado worked to his advantage in keeping the Spanish farther west and establishing an effective new Jamestown. The colony would later be governed by his son Wat after Raleigh disappeared into the jungle on one of his many expeditions and never returned. Orinoco proved a key military position between coastal Spanish Venezuela and the Dutch colonies forming to the east, many of which would be conquered in the later Anglo-Dutch wars.

Orinoco proved a fairly profitable, if non-noteworthy, plantation colony for the British Empire in the next several centuries. By the early 1900s, its vast oil fields became a valuable commodity, and since then Orinoco has been one of the richest corners of the Commonwealth, looked upon with envy by other former colonies and routinely doing well in sporting matches from its state-of-the-art national stadium, El Dorado.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Raleigh was found guilty of treason, though King James would suspend his execution and hold him in the Tower of London until 1616, when he would be released to lead an expedition in search of El Dorado. During the exploration of Venezuela, an attack on a Spanish outpost would go wrong, his son Wat being shot and the attack being labeled an illegal act of war. To appease the Spanish, Raleigh's sentence of beheading was reinstated in 1618. It was said that "justice of England has never been so degraded and injured as by the condemnation of the honourable Sir Walter Raleigh".


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-09-18 03:56:37 ~ I'd have far preferred this outcome to what actually happened.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Martians landed in New Jersey and offered humans an alliance? muses Chris Oakley Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1938, on this day suspicions that the attempt on Prof. Richard Pearson's life was part of a larger Nazi conspiracy against the American scientific community were heightened when U.S. Army intelligence cryptologists decoded a series of cable intercepts originating from the Berlin headquarters of Germany's Abwehr foreign espionage agency.

Part Eight of Parley These cables, initially transmitted to the German embassy in Washington and then forwarded to German undercover agents throughout the United States, contained detailed instructions for assassinating prominent American scientists and attacking facilities known or suspected to be associated with the overall Western research and development efforts to master Martian technology.

Interestingly enough, these cables made no mention of the Manhattan Project, suggesting the German government wasn't yet aware of its existence.


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Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-11-18 00:41:12 ~ Oh goodie. At least our biggest project is still safe. I hope.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Richard Nixon died in office muses Eric Lipps? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1973, President Spiro T. Agnew, under investigation both for his possible role in offenses relating to the June 1972 break-in at Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington, D.C.'s Watergate Hotel and for alleged bribery and kickbacks dating from his time as governor of Maryland, gave a rambling speech defending himself which was most memorable for his assurance that "I am not a crook. The President of the United States is not a crook".

Driven from Office by Eric LippsAgnew had succeeded to the presidency upon the unexpected death of President Richard M. Nixon from an aortic aneurysm on January 24, just days after Nixon had been sworn in for a second term after winning a landslide victory over Democrat George S. McGovern in the 1972 presidential election.

"I am not a crook. The President of the United States is not a crook".Later, some would argue Nixon had been the luckier one. The Watergate investigation would turn up extensive evidence of presidential misconduct, which would certainly have put him at risk of impeachment. His death in effect left Agnew holding the bag for those misdeeds. But it would be the revelations emerging from Maryland which would prove more damaging, ultimately not only forcing Agnew from office but making him the first U.S. President ever sentenced to prison. Although the prison sentence was suspended, ex-President Agnew would be fined $10,000 and would live out the remainder of his life as a political pariah, shunned even by Republican conservatives who had once looked to him to speak for them.


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Facebook Comment Comment from Jeff Mayers on Facebook: Well, if that would have occured, we still might have had a constutitional crisis(since Agnew was under investigation and resigned because of an unrelated scandal), but due Watergate... Comment sent to author for response if appropriate. Ed.

Facebook Comment Comment from John Ritzert on Facebook: In this timeline, it's important to know who Agnew would have appointed as VP under the 25th Amendment. Any ideas? Comment sent to author for response if appropriate. Ed.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-11-18 07:08:29 ~ Would Woodward and Bernstein have pursued the story so vigorously if Nixon were gone? As I understand it, a lot of what they did was at least partly because they, and people they liked, loathed Nixon personally.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-11-18 14:40:22 ~ I don't know that I buy the personal-vendetta angle; it sounds like something Nixon's supporters would have dreamed up to make their man the innocent victim of a left-wing media conspiracy. But in any event, it's not hard to believe that Woodward and Bernstein might have disliked Agnew--they would have had plenty of company, even within the (former, in this timeline) Nixon administration.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2009-11-19 16:15:37 ~ Actually, Woodward and Bernstein were not alone in investigating Watergate. More important, Woodward was and remains a Republican. Agnews choices for a vice president were limited the requirements of the 25th amendment -- congressional approval. Pressure for Gerald Ford was very great at the time, and he was appointed as a politically neutral "nice guy" who could work with Democrats. It's likely that Agnew would have done the same, or appointed Gov. Rockefeller. It would not have been Reagan or Goldwater. The only outsider that I can think of might have been Scranton, but feel free to add more.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-11-19 16:40:16 ~ Woodward a GOP guy? I never knew that?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Jewish residents of Uganda shot back? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1972, speaking on Radio Kampala on this day the President of Uganda Idi Amin Dada (pictured) declared "economic warfare" by announcing a set of Africanisation policies that included the expropriation of properties owned by Asians, Jews and Europeans.

Idi Amin declares economic war on ethnic minoritiesNot only would Amin's repatriation plans for Africanization ravage the national economy, they would attempt to destroy the lives of two ethnic groups who had been born in the country, their ancestors having come to Uganda when the country was still a British colony. Yet the reactions of these persecuted minorities would be very different.

Uganda's 80,000 Asians were mostly from the Indian subcontinent, many owned businesses, including large-scale enterprises, that formed the backbone of the Ugandan economy. Amin issued a decree ordering the expulsion of the 60,000 Asians who were not Ugandan citizens and most of them held British passports. This was later amended to include all 80,000 Asians, with the exception of professionals, such as doctors, lawyers and teachers. A plurality of the Asians with British passports, around 30,000, emigrated to Britain. Others went to Australia, Canada, India, Pakistan, Sweden, and the U.S.

"In any country there must be people who have to die. They are the sacrifices any nation has to make to achieve law and order". ~ Idi AminSince 1903, 250,000 Zionists had settled the 5,000 square mile Mau Plateau after British Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain gave a portion of British East Africa to the Jewish people as a homeland under the British Uganda Program. The offer was a response to pogroms against the Jews in Russia, and it was hoped the area could be a refuge from persecution for the Jewish people.

Recognising an unmistakeable threat to the future of the Jewish Homeland, and determined to prevent a repeat of the Russian pogroms, a special forces mission, "Operation Thunderball" was ordered by the Zionist leadership. Lieutenant Colonel Yonatan "Yoni" Netanyahu led a team of commandoes from the Israeli Defense Force who secretly landed in Entebbe Airport and drove an exact replica of Amin's Mercedes into the Presidential Compound where Yoni killed the Head of State with a burst from his Kalashnikov. Netanyahu was also shot in the raid, but survived due to the timely intervention of Dora Bloch, a 75-year-old hostage who had been seized at Mulago Hospital in Kampala with some of her doctors and nurses.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Dora Bloch was executed by Ugandan soliders after the Entebbe Raid in OTL and Yoni also died. We would like to thank Scott Palter for his suggestions in the development of this controversial story.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-11-18 01:36:04 ~ This would have been a very different TL from ours; would Idi Amin have come to power at all?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-11-18 02:24:55 ~ A very good point sir. A flippant answer would be yes because Amin was endorsed by the British Government - [Idi Amin is] a splendid type and a good football player and we can imagine that anti-semitic feeling might drive his overthrow on Milton Obote at the same time. This was only six years after Ugandan independence so in IMHO I dont think the changes brought upon by a Jewish state would preclude this scenario. Another interesting point would be a "Two Israels" scenario in which the former Palestine Mandate was absorbed by Zionists in 1947. I guess that if the British had endorsed the Uganda plan, there would be no need for support in Mandatory Palestine though.

Facebook Comment Comment from Norton James on Facebook: Yonatan Netanyahu was killed leading the Operation Entebbe hostage rescue mission in 1976 and is considered a war hero


In 1989, what would later be known as the Velvet Rebellion began with the suppression if a peaceful demonstration in Prague, Czechoslovakia (pictured). Velvet Revolution Fails by Eric Lipps

That event would lead to an escalating cycle of protest and repression which would end in December with the direct intervention of Soviet military forces.

The Czech rebellion would prove to be the last straw for opponents of Mikhail Gorbachev within the Soviet military and government.

On January 2, 1990, Gorbachev would be forcibly deposed and a hard-line Stalinist government backed by the Red Army would take control in Moscow. Thereafter, the Soviet grip on Eastern Europe would be tightened once more, forestalling what might have been a peaceful end to the Cold War which could have averted the global holocaust of June 1999.


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In 2008, on this day French police arrested Mikel Garikoitz Aspiazu Rubina (pictured).Txeroki arrested by Chris Oakley & Todayinah Ed.

"Txeroki" is the suspected military leader of the Basque Unity Militia, a group sponsored by Spain's neo-fascist government which sought to forcibly reunite the Basque Republic with the rest of Spain, from which the Republic had seceded in 1940. The Basque news agency, Vasco Press, said that Mr Garikoitz Aspiazu, whose nickname means Cherokee, had been detained along with another suspected terrorist group member in the town of Cauterets, and the arrest was a "severe blow" to the terrorist group.

The arrest of Mr Garikoitz Aspiazu, 35, which took place overnight in the Hautes-Pyrenees region of France, follows the detention of the terrorist group's alleged political commander, Javier Lopez Pena alias 'Thierry', in the French city of Bordeaux in May. The French interior ministry did not provide any other details about the arrest, but said he was "suspected of being the perpetrator" of the murder of two civil guard officers in Capbreton on 1 December 2007, shot during a surveillance operation on suspected terrorist group members.

"This arrest shows again the resolute commitment of the French police and gendarmerie in the fight against all forms of terrorism and illustrates once again the excellent co-operation between France and the Basque Republic in the fight against state sponsored terrorism. Today Basque Unity Militia is weaker and Basque autonomy is stronger". The French statement added.


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In 1960, on this day a delegation of civil defense officials from New Orleans visited New York City to learn how the lessons of the Jamaica Bay hurricane could be applied to protecting their own city against future storms.

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On this day in 1941, the Third Battle of Kursk ended with a Soviet victory as Red Army cavalry broke through the German lines at Prokhorovka and drove the Germans into retreat.

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In 1973, under increasing pressure in regard to his role in the escalating Watergate scandal, President Nixon holds an hour-long question-and-answer session with 400 Associated Press managing editors. Insisting that he has done nothing illegal, he assures them, 'I am not a crook.'

 - Richard Nixon
Richard Nixon

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On this day in 2015, post-production work was finished on the sequel to Jerry Bruckheimer's film adaptation of his hit TV crime series CSI: Crime Scene Investigations.

 - Jerry Bruckenheimer
Jerry Bruckenheimer

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In 1967, Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota announces he will run for president.

McCarthy's entry into the race reflects growing public dissatisfaction with the wars in Cuba and Vietnam, both of which the Senator opposed.

 - Eugene McCarthy
Eugene McCarthy

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In 1901, Israel Strassberg was born in Budzanov, in what later became Ukraine. As many young men of his era did, he went to the fledgling Soviet Union during the revolution and stayed to help build the worker's paradise. He was appointed the head of the Actor's Studio in 1950, and his 'Method' acting techniques influenced generations of Soviet actors.

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In 1887, Bernard Law Montgomery, known affectionately as Monty to his troops, was born in London, England. Although Monty clashed with other generals, it is widely recognized that he saved the Allies by assuming the position of Supreme Commander in 1944 prior to the invasion of France. With his steady hand at the helm, World War II ended victoriously for the Allies in 1946.

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In 1875, the North American Theosophical Society was founded in New York City, the capitol of the North American Confederation. Helena Blavatsky, a mystic from Russia, claimed to have psychic knowledge of the Mlosh homeworld, delivered to her by extra-dimensional beings on alternate planes of existence. Although the scientific community pronounced the woman a charlatan, many people, Mlosh and human, flocked to hear her speak; she did put on a good show, after all.

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In 1963, US President John F Kennedy expires in the White House following an accidental misadministration of the daily shots of corticosteroids that he required to stay alive. Lyndon Baines Johnson and Richard Nixon urgently wired 'the team' to stand-down, issuing the code name 'Rome Falls'.

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In 1286, the Egyptian Caliph opens a great canal that connects the ancient Mediterrannean with the Red Sea. This eliminates the need to travel completely around the African continent or go over land to reach Europe from eastern lands, and makes Egypt the greatest trading power in Islam.

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In 2007, having failed to qualify for Euro 2000, English football reached a new nadia. Austria, a team ranked 88th in the world rankings beat England in a friendly match. The national team signed a petition urging Austria to pull out of Euro 2008 and give their automatic spot to the best team that missed out in the qualifying competition. Which ironically, was England.

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In 1990, British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and US President George share a telephone conference call to review the Kuwait Crisis. Although history records that Thatcher told Bush it was 'no time to go wobbly' that description was accurate in a most sinister way. The President was entranced by one of Thatcher's 'Bad Spells'.

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In 1968, John Forbes Kerry reported for duty at Coastal Squadron 1 in Cam Ranh Bay in South Vietnam, where he served as an officer in charge of Swift boats, leading five-man crews on a number of patrols into enemy-controlled areas. Of strategic significance throughout history, both the French and the United States used the military facilities in the bay during the Indochina Wars. Indeed Admiral Rozhdestvensk used the bay as a staging area for the Imperial Russian fleet prior to the Battle of Tsushima in 1905. Ironically, the Vietnamese turned the military facilities in Cam Ranh Bay over to the Soviet Union after the fall of Saigon. In 1979, the Soviet government signed an agreement with Vietnam for a 25-year lease of the base. Cam Ranh Bay was the largest Soviet naval base outside the Soviet Union, allowing the Soviet Union to project increased power in the South China Sea. In his inaugural address, Kerry gave Cam Ranh Bay as an example of the moral bankruptcy of the Domino Theory, a 20th Century foreign policy theory that speculated if one land in a region came under the influence of Communists, then more would follow. More importantly, he said, America could 'do better' in the 21st century, as the defeated nation sought to climb out of the ashes of defeat in the Cold War.

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In 1968, Alexandros Panagoulis was condemned to death by the Greek Colonels' Junta. After the restoration of democracy, Alexandros Panagoulis was elected as Member of Parliament as a member of the Union of Centre - New Forcesin 1974. He made a series of allegations against mainstream politicians whom he said had openly or secretly collaborated with the junta. Panagoulis was killed on 1 May 1976 at the age of 36 in a car accident on Vouliagmenis Ave. in Athens. This happened only few days before files of the junta's military police that he was in possession of were to be made public. We now know that the car accident was staged to silence Panagoulis and to cover up the documents in question.

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In 1978, the Star Wars Holiday Special premiered on CBS. The two-hour special set in the new and highly popular Star Wars universe, featuring cameos by some of the biggest comedy and musical stars of the day, immediately set an all-time ratings high, only approached by the final episode of M*A*S*H 8 years later. The extreme popularity of the program, due largely to its engaging storyline, clever dialogue and action sequences rivaling that of the first movie itself, spawned a yearly tradition of Star Wars Holiday Specials running through the present day. The long-running, extremely-high-budget yearly series has been instrumental in filling in the story gaps between the various theatrical chapters, as well as portraying flashbacks, flashforwards and introducing dozens of new characters that quickly became as publicly beloved as those of the films themselves. With the completion of both planned Star Wars trilogies, there was some concern that the Specials would soon be discontinued, but creator George Lucas quickly released a statement that as long as the public was in love with Star Wars, the Specials would never be complete.

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November 16



Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Mitt Romney had an acting career like his idol Ronald Reagan? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2012, Mitt Romney, the veteran actor who played "Paw" Ingalls for almost three decades, set to leave the show.

Paw Ingalls QuitsHe joined "Little House on the Prairie" in 1983 ostensibly to fill the gaping void of talent left by the exit of lead star Michael Landon who played the central character Charles Ingalls.

But as America embraced polyglot diversity, he was increasingly seen as a throwback to a monochrome past. Ratings plummeted, and the show began to look forward to new formulas after a zooped up theme song failed to interest young people and the minorities. A radical option was to invite the king of cool Barry Obama however his acting partner and long-term sidekick Joe Biden had a reputation for foul language that ruled him out of joining the prime-time series.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-11-17 02:11:29 ~ Romney as an actor....there's an idea I hadn't imagined.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-17 03:09:26 ~ But Chris...didn't you catch his stirring performance as a presidential candidate in "The First Debate"?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-11-17 06:24:19 ~ So in this TL he didn't fling himself into the mire of politics?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Thomas Jefferson had been exposed as the author of the Kentucky Resolutions? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1798, the Kentucky State Legislature passed a resolution stating that acts of the national government beyond the scope of its constitutional powers were "unauthoritative, void, and of no force". An article from the American Heroes thread

Thomas Jefferson ImpeachedThe originator of the resolution was none other than the duplicitous Thomas Jefferson who was serving as both Vice President and also the leader of the Republican Opposition Party. It was of course an impossible conflict of loyalties that the Founding Fathers had not anticipated at Philadelphia.

But inevitably, there was a leak and he was called out by the Adams administration for violating the Alien and Sedition Act. The Republic watched in horror as the author of the Declaration of Independence was charged with impeachment. In his defence, Jefferson and his chief lieutenant James Madison sincerely believed that the Federalists had betrayed the American Revolution.

At a personal level, Adams of course was vindicated by the exposure. Throughout his tenture, he had been betrayed by malicious gossip and slander spread by his former friend. Despite that fact that he had withdrawn to Monticello and refused to participate in Cabinet, Adams said it was like Jefferson was in the next room the whole time.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, this idea is based on a post on Alternate History.


Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2012-12-26 23:05:44 ~ I might actually be on Jefferson's side on this one. The Alien and Sedition Acts were unconscionable.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-12-26 23:18:52 ~ This might have made Sally Hemmings' life a bit more interesting....

Readers Comment Andrew Beane commented on 2012-12-26 23:27:17 ~ I can really see this happening, things got hairy between the early political factions

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-12-27 03:45:27 ~ Some might have taken this act by the Kentucky legislature and a precurser to secession, possibly laying the groundwork for an earlier Civil War. Some European powers, England in particular, might have seen opportunity in this.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2012-12-27 15:24:31 ~ No Comment

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-12-28 15:22:04 ~ Ooo, good What If. The public was definitely angry enough at France to get the Acts passed, much like the Patriot Act of today. Jefferson could've gone the way of the Dixie Chicks.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Oliver Cromwell had gone ahead with his plans to emigrate to New England? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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It is 1634, and Oliver Cromwell has left England to live in Connecticut.

Republican Grinch, ReduxThe notorious Puritan has long been appalled by the wild and lawless behavior he has already seen in England, celebrating that pagan holiday called Christmas. Indeed, it is all too similar to Halloween, complete with rowdy trick-or-treat raids led by the Lord of Misrule. Boston is already close to banning the Christmas holiday, which it will do in 1659.

This abandoned revelry is one reason why Cromwell rallies his fellow subjects to take control of all the colonies .. thus outlawing Christmas and other sinful practices, such as slavery. His rules became the basis of our American government and have lasted to this day ... despite the influence of all the immigrants who have tried to import the winter celebration.

I need hardly add that only Protestant immigrants are allowed to come here at all .. but even they have been known to ignore the Christmas Ban, so that the police are constantly on the alert for their forbidden celebrations.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Point of divergence: Cromwell turned back on his way to take ship for Connecticut. Once he rose to become Lord Protector, he did ban the English celebrations of Christmas...which helped make his people all too happy about King Charles the Second's return.


Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-15 20:24:59 ~ Sheesh, I didn't know that! But remember, we are talking about the situation in our alternate present day, when all Protestants might have been welcome.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-15 20:45:49 ~ And I seem to remember a lady named Anne Hutchinson, who was banished and later killed by Indians for preaching another Protestant doctrine. But, as I said, in our own alternate present day the Puritans might have become more tolerant...of other Protestants, at least.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-11-16 01:49:45 ~ How would he take control of, forex. Virginia?

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-16 02:36:32 ~ The same way he took control of England, Eric...by forming a New Model Puritan Army in New England and then fighting his way across the continent.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-11-20 19:21:25 ~ How long until the question of taxes to the corrupt Stuarts becomes a question?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Nazi dictator had been brought up in London? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the August 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1936, on this day Edward VIII invited British Prime Minister Arnold Hiller to Buckingham Palace and expressed his desire to marry Wallis Simpson when she became free to re-marry.

The Right Honourable Arnold Hiller, M.P
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Although greatly sympathetic to the King's plight, Hiller was fully aware that his subjects would deem the marriage morally unacceptable. This expected public reaction was the case largely because remarriage after divorce was opposed by the Church of England, and the people would not tolerate Wallis as queen. Because as king, Edward held the role of Supreme Governor of the Church of England, and the clergy expected him to support the Church's teachings.

Of course the irony was that Henry VIII's desire to divorce had actually created the Church of England. Nevertheless the so-called abdication crisis was an unfortunate turn of events for Hiller. Having crushed all domestic foes before rising to power, he was now operating at a geostrategic level, locked in a deeper struggle on the world stage and ultimately this episode was a distraction from the fulfilment of his global ambitions. That was of course unless he could force the Royal Family out and merge the offices of Head of Government and Head of State.
You can read read the latest part of Chris Oakley's timeline at The Right Honourable Arnold Hiller MP at Changing the Times Magazine.


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Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-07-11 17:08:01 ~ But Herr Hiller would still have not suffered the experience of losing a war and then enduring the crushing financial crisis caused by the reparations payments. He would then have had no reason to accuse the Jews, the Communists or anyone else of stabbing his country in the back, because obviously nothing had been stabbed.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-09-16 06:59:42 ~ A British-raised "Hitler" might never have gone into politics. Instead, he might be an art teacher somewhere.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-09-16 10:21:14 ~ He would still have been a syphilitic moron.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-09-16 15:27:59 ~ Er . . . that "moron" managed very nearly to win a world war. As for the "syphilitic" part, who knows what would have happened had he led a different life? Very likely, "Hiller" would have lived out his life in obscurity, perhaps as a petty bureaucrat like his father, and developed a minor reputation as a mediocre painter.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-09-16 19:06:09 ~ He must've had a leg-up somehow: an immigrant Prime Minister, or his family move in much earlier?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Spencer Perceval had recompensed John Bellingham and thus ended his misery? In this article we reverse the storyline of Jeff Provine's blog article Bellingham's Reign of Terror Begins. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the July 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1804, on this day in Archangel, British merchant broker and export representative John Bellingham had his travelling pass withdrawn because of the debt arising from the alleged sabotage of the Russian ship Soleure which sank in the White Sea the previous autumn.

Spencer Perceval reigns in John Bellingham's terrorsBecause the vessel was insured at Lloyd's of London the owners (the house of R. Van Brienen) raised a claim but an anonymous letter informed Lloyd's that the ship had been sabotaged. Soloman Van Brienen suspected Bellingham was the author, and decided to retaliate by accusing him of a debt of 4,890 roubles to a bankrupt for which he was an assignee.

Bellingham, on the verge of leaving for Britain on 16 November 1804, had his travelling pass withdrawn because of the debt. And then Van Brienen persuaded the Governor-General of the area to imprison Bellingham. A year later, Bellingham secured his release and managed to get to Saint Petersburg, where he attempted to impeach the Governor-General. This provoked the Russian authorities and he was charged with leaving in a clandestine manner, and again imprisoned. He was in prison until October 1808 when he was put out onto the streets, but without permission to leave. In his desperation, he personally petitioned the Tsar. He was permitted to leave in 1809 and arrived back in England in December.

Fortunately for Bellingham, by this time, the United Kingdom had broken off diplomatic relations with Russia and he received a more sympathetic response from the Prime Minister, Spencer Perceval (pictured) who arranged for compensation. His suprising intervention was due to his personal familiarity with the case; he is the only Solicitor General ever to reach the Office of Prime Minister. The outcome was a relief for Bellingham's long suffering wife who had begged him to drop the matter. Fearing for his sanity, she was desperately worried that he might actually be driven by his terrors to actually kill someone in authority.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in out timeline, Bellingham developed a grudge against the British Government in general and targeted at Perival who he assassinated on 11 May 1812.Please note that in authoring this post we have repurposed a considerable amount of content from Wikipedia.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-06-26 16:40:22 ~ Too bad they didn't have Kevlar in those days... :D

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-12-21 07:49:13 ~ Too bad for Bellingham he didn't have ambitions to be a pioneer merchant settler in Australia, New Zealand or Canada. Life might have been a lot easier than slugging it out in Europe.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-12-21 14:33:11 ~ What kind of fallout would we have with a longer term for Perceval? Might effect the Napoleonic Wars in severe ways.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if there had been a Romanov restoration after the collapse of the Soviet Union? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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It is November 1991, and the 74-year-old Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov, Head of the Russian Imperial Family, is invited to visit St. Petersburg by Mayor Anatoly Sobchak. The Soviet Union is collapsing, and the Grand Duke goes there hoping to regain the Russian throne. Realizing that the Russian people are not about to oblige him, he returns home to Madrid.

A Czar is BornWhen he dies the following year, he leaves several claimants fighting for the title, including his own daughter Maria. Ignoring them all, his distant nephew Peter Petrovich, aged 28, leaves his own home in California to accompany the Grand Duke's body back to St. Petersburg for burial. The Russian people feel great affection for the handsome, charming, charismatic young man ... and very little fondness for the new president, Vladimir Putin.

Some Russians are accusing Putin of sending his political opponents into exile and prison, arousing fears that he is as great a tyrant as Stalin himself, and even worse than the Czars. In protest, they elect the Romanov youth to replace Putin.

Peter Petrovich had kept promising the crowds that, if elected, he would proclaim himself as Czar, giving him more power to import the democracy and freedom he had learned growing up in America as a history professor's son. And he keeps his vow. Now it is Putin's turn to go into exile, while the Czar Liberator moves into the Kremlin, and the national anthem is once again "God Save the Czar".

The new Czar's reputation shines even brighter, when he foils an assassination attempt by pulling out his own pistol and shooting the would-be killer. While no one can be sure who hired the hit man, the incident serves to tarnish Putin's reputation even further .. and the young Czar's star shines brighter than before.

It becomes positively dazzling in the year 2000, when he marries Chelsea Clinton, the American president's only daughter, and it is no surprise that they remain in office to this day. She returns to America to have her children, though, so that they might become both Czars AND presidents, thus unifying the two countries further.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality, the Grand Duke Vladimir was indeed invited to visit St. Petersburg in 1991, where he made discreet overtures about regaining the Romanov throne, but soon returned home when his offer was ignored. He was buried in St. Petersburg the following year, and many of the remaining Romanovs quarreled over who had the right to replace him .. but they did not include our imaginary young friend.


Facebook Comment Comment from Steve Kudlak on Facebook: This is one of those speculations there is nowhere tangential tyo reality.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-05-18 11:39:27 ~ So, Peter Petrovich proclaims himself hereditary absolute ruler of Russia "import the democracy and freedom he had learned growing up in America"? Am I missing something here?

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-05-18 11:53:57 ~ He's a Tsar. He'll TAKE the throne..

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-05-18 15:13:34 ~ He'd need a personal army to take care of the KGB/Russian Mafia, unless he somehow gets them on his side, in which case he'll be unstoppable.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-05-18 17:03:54 ~ As big a mess as Russia was and is, I'm not sure taht anybody sane would want the throne.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Sassanids were victorious at the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the September 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 636, on this day a Sassanid Victory at al-Qadisiyyah halted the Muslim Advance. Beginning in the 600s, the Middle East was a theater of war for three of history's greatest empires. Two of them, the Byzantine and the Sassanid Empires, had battled for centuries and were descendants of empires that had stood even longer ago, Rome and Parthia, respectively.

Sassanid Victory at al-Qadisiyyah halts Muslim Advance A new empire began to form, however, during the life of the Prophet Muhammad. As more and more converts joined his faith, the power of Islam grew out of the western part of Arabia and expanded quickly. When the Byzantines and Sassanids noticed this, they set aside their own differences and began an alliance for mutual protection.

Byzantium had begun its significance when the Roman emperor Constantine moved his capital there to promote stability in 330. Doing so strengthened the wealthy eastern frontier, but it also ultimately broke the Roman Empire apart with the West falling to the German hordes in 476. The Byzantines still stood, but toward the beginning of 600, the Sassanid Empire stormed Syria, Egypt, and Anatolia in vengeance of the Byzantine general assassinating and usurping the emperor Maurice, who had married a Sassanid princess. The next emperor, Heraclius, defeated the Sassanids at Nineveh in 627 and received back the captured territory and loot, including the True Cross.

A new story by Jeff ProvineThe Sassanid Empire faced its own turmoil. Khosrau II was assassinated by his son Kavadh II in 629, who died in a matter of months, leading to a string of usurpations. Seven-year-old Ardashir III reigned before being killed by General Farrokhan, who died in battle and was succeeded by Purandokht, daughter of Khosrau II. She would rule for a short time, repairing much of the damage done by the past years' intrigue before being replaced by her sister Azarmidokht, who would in turn be replaced by the nobleman Hormizd VI. Finally, Purandokht's son and Khosrau's grandson Yazdgerd III came of age and stabilized the Sassanid throne, supported by his general Rostam Farrokhzad.

Meanwhile, Muslim power continued to grow. Upon the death of the Prophet in 632, a council met and determined that Abu Bakr would be caliph. He set upon a series of wars uniting the Arabs of Arabia and then moving northward to add those in Syria and Palestine. With a new force the Middle East to counteract the tentative balance between Byzantium and Persia, wars quickly began with the caliphate invasion of Iraq, and the Muslim power was affirmed with the defeat of an army Sassanids, Byzantines, and Christian Arabs in 633. Sassanids finally stopped the Muslim advance in 634, and Sassanids and Byzantines made a formal alliance in 635. Knowing of the alliance, the Muslim forces decided to deal with their enemies one at a time, wiping out the Byzantine army at Yarmouk near the Sea of Galilee in August of 636 at the cost of abandoning Iraq to a massive Sassanid force of some 200,000 in camp. The Muslims camped at Qadisiyyah with 30,000 and waited as peace talks dragged on.

That November, the talks gave way to actual battle. The two sides had attempted to bend the other's will with the Muslims sending an emissary to convert Yazdgerd III while the Persians sent a Muslim ambassador home as a servant carrying a basket of dirt on his head (though the Muslim response was, "Congratulations! The enemy has voluntarily surrendered its territory to us"). Caliph Umar ordered the talks to end, which caused Sassanid General Rostam to prepare for battle despite his reservations. Although the Sassanid army was much larger, the vast majority of the force was conscripted spear infantry that Procopius of Caesarea described as "a crowd of pitiable peasants who come into battle for no other purpose than to dig through walls and to despoil the slain and in general to serve the [real] soldiers".

In the night, Rostam decided to use the infantry, what might have been his weakness, as a diversion. He dammed up the canal and moved over his entire army to face the Muslim force the next morning. Following secret orders, the infantry led the attack as a whole after the opening onslaught of the arrows, but were swiftly beaten back by the better trained Muslims. They feigned retreat, and the Muslims pursued. When they reached the canal, however, the infantry turned about and were ordered to hold position while the archers pounded the Muslims, who then began their own retreat. In the chaos (the battle would be known to Islam as Yaum-ul-Armah, "The Day of Disorder"), Rostam released his war elephants, backed by his heavy cavalry, which swept the Muslim cavalry from the field. The organized retreat turned to a rout with the unnerving elephants stomping, and the Muslim army was destroyed.

Yazdgerd III would manage to seal the victory with a treaty that would end his alliance with the now extremely weakened Byzantine Empire. The Zagros Mountains were strongly defended against further Muslim invasion, though the rich lands of Mesopotamia would routinely change hands between them, like Anatolia, which would be stripped from the Byzantines, who became a relic city-state with a naval empire. The Muslim caliphates, meanwhile, would turn westward, conquering across North Africa and into Europe, where Christians would begin counterattacks such as the Crusades with Persian allies.

While the political boundaries settled for the time, the wildly different religions of the Arab and Persian peoples would keep up a constant sense of distrust. Although conquered by the Mongols and later European colonialists, Persia would remain the center of Zoroastrianism, one of the world's largest religions.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah lasted four days. Fighting was bloody but inconclusive until the fourth day, when Rostam's war elephants were driven from the battle for good. Rostam was killed in the battle, and his army disintegrated without a leader, giving a great victory to the Muslims, who would soon conquer Persia and add it to the Rashidun Caliphate. After centuries of religious persecution, only a handful of Zoroastrians remain, and Iran is the seat of Shia Islam.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-08-29 05:12:02 ~ I think that once the Muslims arose, Mesopotamia and the Semitic-speaking provinces of Byzantium were lost, pretty much no matter what. They were at odds with their respective metropoles culturally, linguistically and religiously. However, I don't think the Arabs could have taken Anatolia---they didn't in OTL with much more success behind them. Anatolia was Orthodox and Greek-speaking, and had much more in common with the capital than Syria, Palestine and Egypt did

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2011-08-29 16:00:28 ~ If (and this is a big if) Anatolia fell to the Caliphate, odds are that it would remain far more Greek/Armenian than Arab. This includes the revival of said languages as the source of High Culture and a degree of disdain for the "Lizard Eaters." On another note, Christianity and Buddhism will persist and expand in Central Asia far more than OTL.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Dinsdale film had been a horror movie? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1960, the two-week long rampage of the Loch Ness Monster was finally ended by heavily armed soldiers who trapped the creature in a landlocked peninsula just north of the Scottish Channel.

Scotland the BraveThe series of events which led to the destruction of much of the east coast of the Scottish Island began six months before. An aeronautical engineer called Tim Dinsdale had observed a large creature rolling and diving in the Loch while he was having breakfast. Amazed by what he saw, he grabbed his video camera and his sixty feet of film which depicted the rear body, the rear flippers, and 1-2 additional humps of a plesiosaur-like body. By the time Dinsdale got out there, though, he only saw the hump swimming across the water with a powerful wake unlike that of a surface vessel. For nearly two minutes, Dinsdale filmed the monster swimming across the loch.

A new story by Ed and Gordon DavieInevitably, the reports of the confirmed sighting drew attention to the Loch, enraging the creature who left a trail of carnage heading southwards. And two weeks into the rampage, Downing Street panicked and evacuated Edinborough, the small port on England's northern coast. Expecting the worst, soldiers blockaided Princes Street by the sea front and harbour. And artillery was set on the islands of Arthur's Seat and Corstorphine Hill. But due to the bravery of a regiment of highlanders, the monster was unable to cross the Scottish Channel which links the Firths of Forth and Clyde.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in Gordon Davie's post on Google Groups ~ [article I read about thirty years ago] The Forth Valley, linking the Firths of Forth and Clyde, is the Scottish Channel, dividing the islands of Scotland and England/Wales. "Edinborough" is a small port on England's northern coast - there was a painting of the town with the sea front and harbour roughly where Princes Street is now. Arthur's Seat and Corstorphine Hill are islands. The article concluded by pointing out that the buildings in the painting might look odd - this is because with the sea level much higher, the Netherlands don't exist and so there is no Dutch influence on the architecture. But it isn't all bad news, it went on - there's no Glasgow either!


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-11-16 06:22:11 ~ One beast that size couldn't cause THAT much problem, could it?

Readers Comment Gordon Davie commented on 2010-11-16 06:22:11 ~ I like it! I had to look up the Dinsdale reference as I'm not familiar with all the Nessie sightings, but it did fit with the scenario! (Do I believe in Nessie? Heart says yes; head says no...)Thanks also for the proper credit at the end (the reference to the original article) - it wasn't my original idea and I wouldn't want to claim somebody else's work as my own. But as it stands, it's fine.

Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2010-11-16 15:35:24 ~ Entertaining as it is,this is not alternate history. No human divergence would make this real.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-11-16 16:17:03 ~ I, for one, am on the side of the beast. We'd left it alone for centuries, now we started coming after it, and it fought back. Poor thing.

Readers Comment Rurri Heakin commented on 2010-11-16 18:20:41 ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgo_(film) Actually, when was the stone of scone swiped from westminster abbey? why not combine the two, Stone of scone liberated moronic response from westminster and nessie rising fra the waves

Readers Comment Rurri Heakin commented on 2010-11-17 00:40:07 ~ The geographical changes, described have their effect. Roman province of Britan, now has a set boundary. The Highlands, are not a threat to the Lowland kingdom. Leith/Edinborough, would still be a port. The Highlands, would be a big western isles, or orkney. My guess is western Isles. Odds are they are ignored. Save the odd mercenary host they raise. There is no Highland, Lowland split. The lowlands are always safe. Also no glasgow. No port for Lanarkshire iron, and coal? These are much bigger changes




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Enoch Powell had seized the Tory Party Leadership in 1967 as many feared? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This article is dedicated to the memory of Basil D'Oliveira who died 19th November 2011, aged 83.

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In 1967, on this day the leader of the British Conservative Party, Reginald Maudling stepped down in favour of his controversial colleague in the Shadow Cabinet, Defence Spokesman the Right Honourable Enoch Powell, or more precisely "that fuc*er Enoch" as he was known to indiscretely refer to him in private.

Howzat! Basil D'Oliveira takes the most important wicket of his careerFollowing the resignation of Sir Alec Douglas Home in 1965, Maudling had narrowly won a three-way leadership contest in which he received 150 votes, Edward Heath 133 and Enoch Powell just thirteen. Home had been selected by the so-called "Magic Circle", a group of Tory grandees who had chosen the Earl through the decidely undemocratic means known as the old boy network.

Unfortunately, and despite being elected in a free vote, Maudling himself was no more in touch than Douglas Home with the "swinging sixties", accused of various slurs such as "Reg had no edge", that "Maudling was dawdling". Of course the real issue was that the Tory Party itself was hopelessly out of touch with the times, and undecided as to how to respond to the British obligations to the Commonwealth, honourably, or perhaps not. Maudling's already extensive alcoholic intake increased markedly and colleagues noted he was "never the same again"; he would leave politics altogether in 1974.

"In full flight, with arms waving, body crouching, eyes burning, voice hissing, he is one of the great sights of contemporary Britain; his body and mind seem united in animal intensity". ~ Anthony SampsonTraditionally, November is a dangerous time for Conservative Party Leaders. And so as the 1967 Tory Party Conference arrived, a man with some real "edge" came to the fore. Because Enoch Powell (pictured above with Ted Heath) had convinced the Conservative Party (if not the Shadow Cabinet) that THE burning issue of the sixties was immigration, or rather repatriation, which he increasingly believed was necessary following a trip to the United States.

A Greek Professor by the age of just twenty-four, and a Brigadier in the British Army, Powell was an animated politician of logic and vigour that succeeded in making both Maudling, and Edward Heath look decidedly ordinary. In fact many people feared that popular support would enable Powell to overthrow the constitution and rule as a dictator. Riding this wave of hatred, in the run-up to the Party Conference, Powell introduced two questionable examples from his own constituency in the West Midlands, where immigration was indeed taking hold as a genuine issue of concern to white voters.

Allegedly, Powell fell into conversation with a "quite ordinary working-class man" who wanted his children to emigrate because "in fifteen or twenty years the black man will have the whip hand over the white man". Similarly, he claimed to receive a letter about a "little old lady" persecuted by West Indian neighbours, who went so far as to push excreta through her letterbox.

"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the river Tiber foaming with much blood".However, during Powell's short spell as Leader of the Opposition, another, indisputable, example, arose that was to destroy his leadership. The background to the issue was that Powell had consistently refused to criticise South Africa for the racist policies of her apartheid government.

During the summer of 1968, the England Cricket Selectors picked Basil D'Oliveira (pictured right). Born and raised in Cape Town, South Africa, he was classified as "coloured" under the apartheid regime, and hence barred from first-class cricket. South African prime minister BJ Vorster had already made it clear that D'Oliveira's inclusion was not acceptable and despite many negotiations the tour of South Africa was cancelled. Wrongly believing that the defining moment had arrived in the great debate, Powell delivered his infamous "Rivers of Blood" speech.

In a suitable reposte to both Powell and Vorster, four white South African cricketers (Eddie Barlow, Mike Proctor, Graham Pollock and Barry Richards) joined the great West Indian batsman Gary Sobers in conducting a rebel "Rest of the World" tour of England, demonstrating that they had absolutely no issue in sharing a dressing room with a black man.


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Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-11-17 00:58:41 ~ Tory party would have imploded over a Powell leadership worse than the Liberals in the prior century did over Irish Home Rule. The Old Boys Club had enough trouble swallowing Thatcher a many years later and eventually chucked her out. They still haven't fully recovered from that clever move.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-11-16 14:47:41 ~ Enoch wasn't the most forward-looking sort, was he? :D

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-11-16 17:50:40 ~ Don't know enough about Powell to comment, but the "Rivers of Blood" speech would have had everybody left-of-center screaming like they were losing their anal virginities to velociraptors.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-11-17 00:40:34 ~ And everybody on the right cheering? Don't think so.


In 1962, on this day Lee Harvey Oswald, an ex-US Marine who later turned Communist, was arrested in Havana on suspicion of assassinating the late Fidel Castro.            

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Lee Harvey Oswald

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On this day in 1944, the Wehrmacht's 'Watch on the Rhine' offensive collapsed in the face of Allied air superiority and relentless American tank thrusts under the direction of US 3rd Army C-in-C General George S. Patton.

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General Patton

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In 2006, sitcom star Michael Richards gets into trouble when doing stand-up at The Laugh Factory in West Hollywood, California. A group of hecklers threaten to totally disrupt his preformance, and Richards suggests the group go on-stage and try and pull off a better show then him.

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Michael Richards Show

The group, all slightly intoxicated, agree to Richards' dare and are humiliated as they attempt to do so - with Richards heckling them from the front row in what one audience member said was, "One of the more inspired moments of stand-up I've ever seen. And it was clear to everyone it was't planned".

The trouble-makers were then removed from the premises, but in a statement the next day, The Laugh Factory banned Richards from ever appearing again, citing his rather "reckless decision to let a small group of audience members take over a show when others had turned up having paid to see [Richards]". However, mobile phone videos of the event are widely circled across YouTube and other media outlets, and Richards himself enjoys quite a revival of his stand-up act in the following months - getting repeated requests to appear in venues across the States and Europe.


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On this day in 1973, the mystery of Ellen Rimbauer's whereabouts was finally resolved after 25 years when her skeleton was discovered to have been buried on the grounds of the Rose Red mansion in Seattle.

Post-mortem analysis of the skeleton showed that she had been struck over the head with a heavy blunt object, indicating her death was a homicide and lending new credence to the theory that an offshoot of Philip Boone's devil-worship cult had played a role in her demise.

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Ellen Rimbauer

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On this day in 1970, the Dallas Cowboys hammered the St. Louis Cardinals at home 37-0 for their ninth win of the 1970 NFL season.                                                                      

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On this day in 937, a pitched battle between Saxons and Vikings at the Northumberland village of Brunanburh ended in a costly stalemate.

The failure of either side to defeat the other in this engagement led to what historians would later call the Sixty Years' War.

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In 1849, Russian author Fyodor Dostoeksky is sentenced to death for his ties to anti-Tsarist radicals. His only two novels, Poor People and The Double, stand as a testament of what he might have written had his sentence been lighter.

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In 1981, in one of the most-watched daytime drama episodes in history, the wedding of Luke and Laura took place on General Hospital. In a twist worthy of any popular soap opera, Laura jilted Luke at the altar and ran off with Luke's cousin (also played by actor Anthony Geary).

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In 1945, Yeshiva University opens its doors in New York City. The small college is established by educators from the Semitic-African Resistance in the hopes of changing American minds towards them. It closes its doors during the ascendance of the American Bund in the 1970's.

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In 1908, Midwestern political activist Oliver Meredith was born in Cleveland, Ohio. Throughout his long life, he strove for justice, peace, and environmental sanity in American life. An actor in his youth, he turned to politics after being blacklisted by Joseph McCarthy's Committee On Un-American Activities, and gave voice to the voiceless across our country until his death in 1998.

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In 1907, Oklahoma is granted statehood. A land of prairies and farms, it is one of the first states to adopt the moniker of Soviet. It had been a stronghold of the Communist Party since its days as a territory.

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In 11-15-12-16-8, Incan Emperor Atahualpa weds Oueztecan Princess Cozetmal, joining the 2 empires. In spite of Ouezteca's advantage in size and population, it is the Inca who become dominant in the culture, and Atahualpa's line encourages this.

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In 711 AUC, Roman emperor Tiberius is born in the great city. At the end of his reign, religious fanatics of many different faiths were plaguing the empire, and he ordered them all suppressed. Although condemned at the time, the move has been hailed as saving the empire from religious civil war.

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In 1990, pressure builds on British Prime Minister Margaret Hilda Thatcher to stand down as the Head of Government for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The Iron Lady is 'not for turning' however. Neither are the continuous agencies of the British state which have ruthlessly pursued the meat-grinder known as the national interest since the Middle Ages. Trouble is that Thatcher has been suffering some 'bad spells' recently. Bad in the sense that they weren't working very well for the witch.

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In 2016, at Camp David the septuagenarian US President George Walker Bush narrowly escapes death after choking on a vacuum-packed pretzel during the superbowl. Its a re-run of course, no one has played baseball or indeed any other sport since life was extirpated above ground by the 2007 nuclear confrontation which started with North Korea.

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In 1940, in response to Germany's levelling of Coventry, England two days before, Sir Arthur Travers Harris commander of RAF Bomber Command orders the destruction of Hamburg. When Britain is finally starved into submission and defeat in 1945, Harris is one of many high profile war criminals handed over to Nazi authorities for trial at Nuremberg where he suicides hours before his planned execution.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if China beat America to the moon? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2012, on this day Vice President Xi Jinping was elected to the post of General Secretary of the Communist Party and Chairman of the CPC Central Military Commission by the Party Central Committee.

Launch Pad to the 21st CenturyAs leader, he committed to land a man on the Moon before the changeover to the sixth generation of leaders in 2022.

Of course the purpose of this bold announcement was to justify world leadership through maturity. Because the thousand of years of continuous civilization was surely a more representative context than the short-lived history of the communist nation since 1948.

Undoubtedly, there was a challenge implicit in his words. Because America had developed its own space program, but having beat the Russians into orbit, had called it quits while there were still ahead of their Coldwar Rival. And although China started much later, it was generally considered highly unlikely that America could restart their own programme and still win this new race.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, thanks to Jeff Provine for sharing his ideas.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-11-29 00:25:37 ~ I don't think China even started thinking about launching spaceflights until the mid-1980s.... They didnt, they started later, but with no Apollo Mission, in this timeline, they could get their first. Ed

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-29 01:14:30 ~ Psychologically, it might raise China to the position of the world's greatest superpower, in place of the United States.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-11-29 03:09:35 ~ Even anti-PRC Chinese-ethnic communities would be ecstatic if the PRC pulled that off.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-11-29 16:42:58 ~ I agree with Mr. Braungart. We'd be back to a new era of competition.

Readers Comment Sailorbarsoom commented on 2012-11-29 16:46:06 ~ We'd still have the occasional SF book or movie about "the first Lunar landing," doubtlessly with the ruins being uncovered, and wait! somethings MOVING in there...! We still wouldn't know the composition of Lunar regolith.

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-11-30 05:24:46 ~ I like John's thinking. Certainly, the education thing in the U.S. now is starting to resemble some sort of return to feudal times with only the rich and privileged being educated. No middle class...




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Francis II Rákóczi had won out at the Battle of Zsibó? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1705, at a decisive moment in Rákóczi's War of Independence, the invading force of Austrian-Danish-Serbian Corps under the command of Field Marshal Ludwig Herbeville were defeated in Transylvania.

Glorious Kuruc Victory at ZsibóIn a struggle that would change the balance of power in central Europe, a group of noblemen, wealthy and high-ranking progressives under his leadership were bidding to topple the rule of Habsburg Austria over Hungary. Because relations between the court and the nobility had deteriorated so badly and the new Habsburg rulers treated the peasants so poorly that eventually some people wished for a return to Turkish rule.

The outcome of the battle secured Transylvania, marking the beginning of the end for the Hungarian nobility in their quest to defend the Hungarian interest.


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Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2013-01-18 06:13:19 ~ There might not have been an Austro-Hungarian empire as we knew it. This could have set forth serious changes to the region.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-01-18 06:44:30 ~ Even if the Austrian Empire ended up including Hungary, the Magyars would find their wings clipped.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-01-18 15:27:32 ~ It'd be a whole new set of who's who in Eastern Europe as Russia, too, was coming into its own. They might've been more friendly with Austria.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Swiss Confederates had been defeated by the Habsburgs? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1315, an army under the command of Duke Leopold I of Austria narrowly survived a Swiss ambush in the Morgarten Pass.

Ambush at the Morgarten PassThe architect of the clandestine attack was Werner Stauffacher. He had mobilized a a Swiss Confederation force of 1,500 infantry archers to regain their local autonomy within the Habsburg Empire.

The dispute had arisen despite the Swiss holding imperial letters of guarantee signed by former Emperors. And after a raid on the Habsburg-protected monastery of Einsiedeln, Duke Leopold I had set out to crush the rebellious Confederates. And his ultimate victory was the end of hopes to restore the Old Swiss Confederacy.


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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-11-15 11:48:25 ~ This might mean the modern world would have no neutral Switzerland to serve as a banking haven for everyone from tax-dodging millionaires to fugitive Nazis.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-15 12:02:59 ~ And neutral Switzerland was also a haven for people who were fugitives FROM the Nazis, Eric.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-11-16 01:36:21 ~ My guess is that Switzerland would end up independent, but it could be in a very different configuration. Those mountains give it superb defensive positions. Would the defeated Confederates hire themselves out as mercenaries? "Keine Silber, keine Schweiz!" or "Pas d'argent, pas de Suisse!"

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-11-20 17:16:22 ~ Would be an interesting switch with the Thirty Years War (which could've happened all the earlier).




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