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In 2012, on this day Fox News released shocking new details of the so-called Battle of Benghazi.
Embedded Journalist 2Because on the anniversary of September 11, a heavily armed group attacked the US consulate and a nearby intelligence compound killing Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other members of his diplomatic mission.
The report also included video footage of a speech given by Paula Broadwell, the "plague rat" journalist at the centre of the David Petraeus resignation scandal. On October 26th she said that the CIA annex was used to imprison Libyan militia members and this may have been the motivation behind the attack on the consulate. A Fox News Source subsequently confirmed that the CIA Annex was used as a detention center for not just militia members, but for prisoners from all parts of Northern Africa and the Middle East.
The CIA denied these allegations but the revelation forced former CIA Director Petraeus to be be subpoenaed to speak at the Senatorial hearings. He was previously excused because of his resignation as D/CIA.
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~ You never know who might leak what to who. But, in this case it could help spell out the prototype script for a really good thriller of a movie. Truth does not have to fall far from the tree to be really interesting.
~ A thriller movie? I had thought of it more as a soap opera!
~ This might make life mighty interesting for US diplomatic personnel all over the ME.
Editor says, what if Jackson lived, Longstreet died in the USCW? muse Ed and Scott Palter. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the May 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 1864, on this day William T. Sherman's Union forces captured Atlanta. An installment of the Federal's Lost Cause thread.
Federal Lost Cause Part 5: Atlanta falls too late to save LincolnAlthough it only had a population of ten thousand citizens, , the Confederacy's second-most important city was a vital rail and commercial centre and had thus become a critical point of contention. Northern newspapers covered the victory, reporting General Hood's burning of many military facilities as he evacuated. But it was too late for Lincoln who had lost the General Election just four days earlier. The war-weary mood of the Northern voters had sealed his fate. Even if the mis-perception of stagnant stalemate had now been corrected, the peace candidate George B. McClellan (pictured) had won out.
However the bigger picture was still transformed. First of all, "Little Mac" would not take office until March, by which time Lincoln might still be able to defeat the South. Even if not, he could force legislation through that enabled his successor to continue the fight throughout 1865 without needing to seek funding approval. And of course McClellan himself was a reluctant peace candidate (the party platform was actually written by Copperhead Clement Vallandigham of Ohio). And so there was a dawning realization that an independent Confederacy was unlikely to emerge from the US Civil War regardless of military outcome. A weighty factor was McClellan opposition to emancipation. The balance of probability then was that the Southern States would rejoin the Union under terms they would not have been offered by Lincoln, and therein lie the chief consequence of the electoral result of 1864.
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~ What happened to Hood's army? The March to the Sea required that Hood first have beat his army near to death.
~ I have a hard time seeing southern state governments willingly rejoining a Union where black runaways remain under arms. Indeed the number of conditions for Reunification on terms could arouse a lot of anger in the north.
~ What would have happened if slavery had continued to this day? The mind BOGGLES!
~ Even if this scenario had played out, slavery would almost certainly be long gone by now. Even many prominent Conmfederates privately acknowledged it was doomed, though they dared not say so publicly. It was just a matter of when and how.
~ Eric, I have also heard that slavery would indeed die out, due to improved farming machinery.
~ At this time the Georgia state capital was Milledgeville, if memory serves me. Fixed - thanks, Ed
~ Radical Republicans would've been furious! (not that they'd get the votes).
~ On the matter of slavery, what if it transitioned away from agriculture to the Industrial Revolution, as would be seen in "factory towns" like those by Pullman?
~ Jeff, I have read that there would have been a serious threat of sabotage if slaves had worked in factories. Not to mention the fact that the workers were getting slave wages anyway, so paying them was less expensive than keeping slaves.
~ There were 150-200K blacks under arms [depends on how you count armed laborers and home guard units]. Who precisely was going to take their rifles away?
~ Scott: The (ex-)Confederate troops would love to try, and authorization to do so or at least regain 'property' seems like something the people running the CSA would want on the table during the re-accession talks.
~ Not in the cards. A peace in 1864-1865 consists of the Yankees going home and taking their blacks, carpetbaggers, Dixie Tories with them. North gives back no more territory than it feels like as South as in no position to force them. Think of the field situation. Union holds NOLA and half of Louisiana. Union holds southern coast except Wilmington, Mobile and Pensacola. Union holds forts up and down Mississippi river. Union holds a good piece of Arkansas, a slice of northern Alabama, over half of Virginia. Union holds virtually all of Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee. South will prioritize getting as much land back as possible. Last thing Dixie wants is for talks to break off and Union to decide it would rather keep fighting. Dixie is near out of troops and essentially bankrupt. By the winter of 1864-1865 Lee's army [the best in the South and the one with the highest morale] was leaking the equivalent of a division a month of deserters to the point that Lee had to put several brigades out beyond the western end of his line curving south to intercept fleeing men.
~ Slavery, the CSA, both appeared to be on borrowed time by 1864, but did everyone in the north know that? Information moved slower in those days.
My money would have been on the north continuing, despite any peace settlement through Union leaders. There might have been a break in hostilities, but one has to wonder of the effect of any European intervention or influences? Volunteers in CSA uniforms? It had already happened in the Confederate navy.
Editor says, what if Pyrrhus of Epirus conquered Italy? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the September 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 278 B.C, the short-lived days of the Roman Empire came to an end as Greek conqueror Pyrrhus of Epirus determined to finish off the growing city. What had once been a pack of exiles and bandits who could only gain wives by stealing them during a false olympics became Rome, a masterful city-state that had taken in numerous forced allies after years of expansionistic war in Italy.
Pyrrhus Obliviates the RomansWhat had once been a pack of exiles and bandits who could only gain wives by stealing them during a false olympics became Rome, a masterful city-state that had taken in numerous forced allies after years of expansionistic war in Italy.
Originally of the Molossians, Pyrrhus's father had been dethroned, and he grew up in exile, learning the importance of military strength and political prowess. His father-in-law, Ptolemy of Egypt, restored him as king of Epirus in 297 BC, and Pyrrhus determined to expand his power. He attempted to conquer Macedon, but was defeated. In 281 BC, a new chance arose to build a league of allies when Tarentum on the southern end of Italy determined to revolt against the growing influence of Rome. The Oracle at Delphi told him "Aio te, AEacide, Romanos vincere posse", meaning, "I say, Pyrrhus, that you the Romans can conquer". Armed with 3,000 cavalry, 2,000 archers, 500 slingers, 20,000 infantry and 20 war elephants (much of his forces on lone from Egypt), Pyrrhus set off for his Italian campaign.
A new story by Jeff ProvineIn 280 BC, he met the Romans in the Battle of Heraclea, defeating their larger army but taking tremendous losses not easily replaced as he was away from Epirus and his allies were wary of utterly declaring war on Rome. The Romans considered a treaty, but eventually declined and rebuilt a fresh army. The next year, he Pyrrhus again defeated the Romans at Asculum, and again his losses were so large that he commented, "One more such victory, and we shall be undone".
In 278 BC, Pyrrhus came upon two new opportunities. The Greek cities in Sicily approached him to drive out Carthage as he was driving the Romans out of southern Italy, and the Macedonians invited him to take the throne there as their king Ceraunus had been killed by barbarians. Both were glorious, but Pyrrhus determined his most important goal should be utter defeat of his present enemy, lest they counterattack and he lose his position as his father had. Taking up what was left in his coffers and forces, Pyrrhus stormed Rome with a grand army and left the city with no stone on top of another.
With Rome destroyed, Pyrrhus's influence in Italy was secure. He next took up the position as King of Sicily, driving out the Carthaginians and pacifying the Greeks in Sicily to be loyal under his command. Pyrrhus then returned to Macedon, and he was able to build up a system of diplomacy that make the Pyrrhic Empire the great power of the middle Mediterranean. He was invited by Cleonymus of Sparta to overthrow the city there, and Pyrrhus began his last campaign in 272 BC. He would be caught in the street fighting after successfully sneaking his army into the city and killed by a roofing tile thrown by an old woman. It seemed an unfitting end who Hannibal, the great statesman of the Carthaginians and conqueror of Gaul, called the greatest military commander in the world. His strategy of utterly destroying and absorbing his enemies gave birth to the phrase "Pyrrhic victory" in which a conquest is total.
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~ Rome still called itself a republic at that time, though it was emerging as a de facto empire. It wouldn't be until after Julius Caesar's time that the Republic would be dissolved.
~ It may have been a republic, but the Senate, the ruling body, was more like the Godfather in togas; those men were ruthless!
~ This would be the Roman Republic...and it had one advantage over Greek conquerors. Conquered peoples were, after a while, taken into the fold. Greeks had a lot of trouble accepting aliens as citizens in their _poleis._
~ This is a major one! Without Rome we have a very different world indeed! However, I agree that victory for Phyrrhus was possible, he was a renowned warrior with experienced troops. He was done in by the unexpected and innovative nature of Roman military tactics and equipment.
Editor says, what if Percival Lowell had recovered from his stroke on this day? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the November 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 1916, on this day businessman, author, mathematician, and astronomer Percival Lowell regained reason to live.
Lowell Regains Reason to Live Percival Lowell had lived a life that few could not envy. A Harvard graduate, he left the world of business for travel and spent much of the 1880s in the Far East. He served as a diplomat's aide and made a study of Korean and, more specifically, Japanese culture. From his trips to the region, he wrote three books: The Soul of the Far East (1888), Noto (1891), and Occult Japan (1894). In 1893, he decided to dedicate himself to astronomy, picking up where the Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli had left off with a study of canals on the surface of Mars. The next year, Lowell used his fortune to establish the observatory in Arizona that bears his name.
A new story by Jeff ProvineThrough his study, Lowell determined sketches of the canals on Mars and wrote three more books: Mars (1895), Mars and Its Canals (1906), and Mars As the Abode of Life (1908). As the twentieth century began, Lowell's ideas of the canals as symbols of an intelligent Martian race led to less and less credit among the astronomical community. The dispassion weighed on him, and he turned toward further research to reestablish his name. Taking discrepancies in the orbit of Uranus, Lowell calculated that some other body must exist beyond the orbit of Neptune, an unfound planet he dubbed "Planet X". Despite laborious searches, nothing from the photographs of the heavens could be determined to be such a planet.
In 1916, Lowell's life seemed to have run out. The World War weighed as heavily on him as the sneers from fellow astronomers. He had believed so much in humanity and the drive of human progress; reports of hundreds of thousands of young men slain on battlefields seemed to disprove that. Stresses had built up into his system, perhaps directing him to an early end of life. But, in the early hours of November 12, an aide hurriedly approached Lowell with prints from the photographic plates taken that March and April with a distant dot that may have been his Planet X.
Reinvigorated, Lowell threw himself into research. The planet looked too small to genuinely affect the mass of Uranus and Neptune, which caused him to recalculate the planetary masses. When this new mathematical arrangement seemed to fit better than the standard model, Lowell published his results in 1917. While some of the astronomical community became persuaded, the overall opinion was against him. Rather than falling under pressure as he had before, Lowell broke with standards and decided that humanity as a whole was becoming corrupt. If progress were to be made, it would be by smaller groups of like-minded, imaginative mini-cultures. He decided that hope for the future lay not in the overpopulated nations of the world but in individual creativity.
Lowell began bringing influential scientists and writers (including his sister, Amy) to his observatory, creating a new community. Some whispered that he was building a scientific cult, but Lowell had given up on impressing his fellows. Instead, he gathered funding and built up the observatory into not only an astronomical facility, but a place for research in numerous fields.
In 1920, Lowell came across a front page article in The New York Times about a lecturer at Clark University believing he could reach the Moon by means of rocketry. Dr. Robert Goddard proposed sending meteorological instruments into the upper atmosphere and even flash powder to the dark side of the Moon, illuminating it for astronomical study. The day after the article, an editorial in The Times trounced Goddard's ideas and concluded that he was a fool who had forgotten "the relation of action and reaction, and of the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react-to say that would be absurd". Lowell contacted Goddard through his connections at Clark University (where he had received an honorary degree in 1909), the two bonded over Goddard's explanation of the fallacy believed to be from Newton's laws of motion. When Lowell secured funding for Goddard's experiments, the latter joined him at the Observatory.
In 1923, Lowell was informed of another controversial thesis, this by a young German student, Hermann Oberth, entitled Die Rakete zu den Planetenräumen ("By Rocket into Planetary Space"). Lowell became enamored with traveling not only to the Moon, but Mars itself, and invited him to join Goddard's research. Oberth, who also had been frowned upon by the academic communities as "utopian", accepted Lowell's invitation. Lowell would later invite Konstantin Tsiolkovsky after widespread publications of the genius's earlier work, but the Russian would decline to move to Arizona, instead maintaining a rigorous correspondence until Lowell's death in 1930.
Lowell died from a stroke February 18, 1930, many said caused by overwork. Since the Crash of the stock market, funding had begun to dry up, and Lowell worked continuously to keep his society running. While the '30s would be lean times at the Observatory, the explosion of need for technological development as the United States entered World War Two gave them something of a blank check. It is believed that Lowell's efforts, combined with yet another war, enabled mankind to achieve space flight in 1948, establish the Lowell Lunar Colony in 1961, and launch the Lowell Ares Program, establishing a Martian outpost in 1983. By that time, however, it had become obvious that Lowell's canals were only an optical illusion.
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~ Interesting! We might be farther along in space if this had happened.
~ The New York Times article cited was not one of the paper's prouder moment, not least because, had its writers bothered to check with actual scientists or even a good encyclopedia, they would have learned that a rocket doesn't push against a medium at all--basic physics, even in 1920.
And if Oberth had left Europe in the 1920s, Nazi Germany's rocket program would have been slowed; perhaps there would have been no V-2s in World War II.
~ Sounds like the founding of "Eureka" (SyFy Channel). And Lowell could bring in Tesla to supply power for his growing community. What about Einstein and the Manhatten Project scientists?
Comment from Margo Barotta on Facebook: maybe he will help to discovered new things in the universe in that time .
~ Maybe combined Observatory and Manhattan Project gives the US ICBMs by the early '50s. Take that, Communism!
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In 2009, on this day Michael Isikoff wrote this article in Newsweek Magazine ~ The Impeachment of Al Gore Next Essay. Be Careful What You Wish For None of this ever happened. But if George W. Bush had lost the election, it could have.
I. A New Day in Washington
It is hard to reconstruct, nine years later, just how inspiring Al Gore seemed when he first addressed the country after being declared the winner of the 2000 election. It was a moment that nobody in Washington ever anticipated--at least not until Justice Anthony Kennedy at the last minute flipped his vote in chambers on Bush v. Gore, thereby permitting the Florida recount to proceed. (And even then, Gore was able to eke out a razor-thin 107-vote victory only when the Florida Supreme Court ordered that all disputed ballots be tallied.)
The Impeachment of Al GoreBut as Republicans cried foul, Gore, on Christmas Eve, rose to the occasion. "What remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside," he declared in a nationwide television address in which he vowed to do "everything possible" to bring Americans together, including naming Republicans to his cabinet. Gore fulfilled his pledge two days later by picking John McCain as his defense secretary. Soon enough, the pundits were predicting that Gore had the potential to usher in a new "post-partisan" era in American politics that would make the country forget the nasty divisiveness of the Clinton years. Little could they imagine that, within a few short years, Gore would have embroiled the country in two unpopular wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or that, blamed for failing to stop the deadliest attack ever on American soil, he would confront a harrowing impeachment trial in the Senate that would make Clinton's Lewinsky troubles seem like a frolic.
II. The Troubles Begin
Gore's political woes began within minutes after he took office on Jan. 20, 2001. A new article from Newsweek MagazineNo sooner had he finished his inaugural address than a firestorm erupted over Bill Clinton's last-minute pardon of fugitive financier named Marc Rich. Although Gore had known nothing about Rich or the pardon, his White House was immediately under siege. Jack Quinn, a longtime adviser who was Gore's first vice presidential chief of staff, had later become Rich's chief lawyer. Sources inside the Justice Department leaked word that Quinn had gotten a crucial assist when Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, Gore's nominee to be A.G., told the White House he was "[neutral, leaning toward favorable" on a Rich pardon.
Career prosecutors at Justice were outraged. Inside the White House, tempers flared. "I can't believe the goddamn Clintons did this to us again!" First Lady Tipper Gore was reported to have screamed to her husband one night over dinner.
When NEWSWEEK reported on Feb. 10 that federal prosecutors in New York were considering a criminal investigation into the pardon, Republicans saw their opening. "How could the Gore Justice Department possibly investigate itself?" thundered Rep. Dan Burton, who, as chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, had already announced hearings. Even The New York Times editorial page agreed. Before the week was through, Holder's nomination was withdrawn. ("I'm done. Public life is over for me," he told The Washington Post.) As the price for getting the president's new nominee (Jamie Gorelick) confirmed, the administration had no choice but to capitulate to GOP demands for an independent investigation. Gore's term had barely begun and already he was saddled with that hallmark of the Clinton era--a special prosecutor.
III. A Gathering Storm
Yet there were even graver threats looming beneath the surface in those early days. On Jan. 25, 2001, CIA Director George Tenet (whom Gore had decided to retain) told the new president in a briefing that the "preliminary judgment" of the U.S. intelligence community was that Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda was responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole, which had killed 17 U.S. sailors off the coast of Yemen the previous October. That very same day, Richard Clarke, the White House counterterrorism adviser and another Clinton holdover, wrote Gore a fateful memo urging him to retaliate for the Cole bombing. "We have got to destroy these guys, Mr. President. If we don't, there will be more attacks," Clarke would later testify he told Gore that day in a private conversation outside the Situation Room. As Clarke recounted the exchange in his testimony at the House impeachment hearings (and in a bestselling book that somehow managed to come out the same day), Gore brushed him off: "Enough already, Dick. I know all about Al Qaeda. We'll get them. But now is not the time".
Gore would hear much the same thing from Tenet four months later when the CIA director presented a National Security Council (NSC) briefing about the alarming uptick in threat warnings about Al Qaeda. "The system is blinking red," an exasperated Tenet told Gore on June 30. Gore was troubled and told the CIA director to "stay on top of this one". But Gore once again insisted that there was nothing he could do about Al Qaeda right away. He had too much on his plate--like winning congressional passage of his new climate-change tax-credit proposals. Besides, the public had forgotten all about the Cole bombing. The U.S. military also had given him no good targets for hitting bin Laden. "What's the point of pounding sand?" asked McCain, echoing the views of the Joint Chiefs, at the NSC meeting that day.
Frustrated at the administration's lack of attention, intelligence-agency officials made another attempt to drive home their concerns about Al Qaeda. On Aug. 6, while Gore was on vacation at the family farm outside Carthage, Tenn., the CIA presented a President's Daily Brief (PDB) with the eye-grabbing title: "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S". Gore poured over the PDB and repeatedly underlined key portions. "Damnit, I want the FBI all over this right away," he told Gorelick in a phone call later that morning. But still, the brief was sketchy, offering no specifics or any proposed course of action. Certainly, there was nothing that dissuaded Gore later that day from directing White House lawyers to finish up work on a document intended to fulfill one of his campaign promises--an executive order banning religious, ethnic, or racial profiling by federal law-enforcement officials.
IV. The White House Under Siege
Gore signed the executive order at a White House ceremony on Sept 10. The next day, he flew off to Detroit for an education event at an inner-city school. He was reading a book to second graders about the effect of global warming on polar bears, Where Did All the Little Bears Go?, when his new chief of staff, Ron Klain, whispered in his ear that two airplanes had slammed into the World Trade Towers and that "America is under attack".
Gore flew back to Washington that afternoon and rallied the country. "This will not stand," Gore proclaimed. "We will not shrink from doing whatever it takes to prevail against the terrorists who did this to us". At a Camp David meeting later that month, Gore assembled his war council and gave the approval for an immediate invasion of Afghanistan.
As Bob Woodward later reported in his book Gore at War, some on the president's team--notably Vice President Joe Lieberman and McCain--wanted even bolder moves. "What about Iraq?" Lieberman asked. "Shouldn't we be going after Saddam as well?" Gore, according to Woodward's explosive account, thought Lieberman was "out of his mind". At Camp David, he curtly cut his vice president off. "Joe, this has nothing to do with Saddam," Gore said, ending the discussion. "Let's stay focused here".
Once the initial shock of 9/11 wore off and the Taliban fled Kabul, Republicans in Congress started demanding a full-scale investigation of how the country had found itself defenseless against a tiny band of terrorists. "We need to know who knew what and when about bin Laden," Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said in early November. The same day, Sen. Arlen Specter introduced a resolution (cosponsored by every Republican in the Senate) creating a special Senate panel to probe the 9/11 attacks. Others in the GOP (and on the right-wing talk-radio shows) blamed nine years of "spineless" Democratic national security decisions that began when Bill Clinton pulled U.S. troops out of Somalia in 1993 and continued right up to Gore's failure to retaliate for the Cole bombing. Democrats were aghast at the GOP hypocrisy: Wasn't it Specter who, just three years earlier, had suggested that Clinton's decision to retaliate for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Africa was a "diversionary" move to distract attention from the Lewinsky scandal? And Lott who had said much the same thing when Clinton bombed Iraq?
But by now, the administration was reeling. In April 2002, The Washington Post obtained leaked FAA documents and e-mails showing that nine of the 9/11 hijackers--including all five on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon--had been flagged for secondary screening the morning of the attacks by an agency computer system known as CAPPs, set up to identify potentially dangerous passengers. (The flagged hijackers had purchased one-way tickets and paid for them with cash.) But the airlines were barred from using the CAPPs warning as a basis to question the passengers themselves. Why? A commission on aviation security headed by Gore in 1997 had recommended against any extra questioning and frisking of passengers on the grounds that it might cause undue "inconvenience" or "embarrassment" for some religious or ethnic groups. "Does anyone here have any doubt we could have saved thousands of lives had it not been for those ridiculous [Gore] commission rules?" one internal FAA official had written in one of the most damning of the leaked e-mails.
Three weeks later The New York Times--quoting unnamed "U.S. intelligence officials"--reported the title of the bombshell Aug. 6, 2001, PDB about bin Laden's plans to attack. The first resolution of impeachment was introduced in the House the same afternoon. "Gore Knew" screamed the headline in the New York Post the next day.
V. Impeachment and Trial in the Senate
The summer of 2002 was agony for the White House. Each day, as the House Judiciary Committee pursued its impeachment inquiry, there were new leaks about government screw-ups in the run-up to 9/11. Despite Gore's orders to Tenet and Gorelick, his directives had never made their way to the field. The CIA didn't tell the FBI about two of the hijackers who had entered the country. The FBI had failed to follow up on warnings about Arabs attending U.S. flight schools. These and more foul-ups had taken place, the Republicans charged, because the Gore White House had been "asleep at the switch". "They were more interested in promoting their extremist climate-change agenda than in protecting the country," declared Dick Cheney, the losing 2000 GOP vice-presidential candidate in a speech at the American Enterprise Institute (where he served on the board). When Republicans scored an overwhelming victory in the 2002 congressional elections, locking up commanding majorities in both chambers, Gore's presidency seemed in peril.
On Jan. 20, 2003, two years to the day after he had been sworn in, Gore was impeached by a lopsided vote of 285-150. To make their case, the House impeachment leaders had crafted an article that charged Gore with the "high crime" of "dereliction of duty". But then, to mollify demands of libertarian conservatives like Grover Norquist (of the anti-tax advocacy group Americans for Tax Reform) and the NRA, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay included an extra article of impeachment that focused on Gore's post 9/11 actions, accusing the president of violating the constitutional rights of Americans by holding some terror suspects as "enemy combatants" and--even worse--issuing an executive order that blocked gun sales to thousands of citizens whose names had been added to the FBI's rapidly expanding terrorist watch list. (NRA "action alerts" trumpeted "horror stories" about innocent Americans being placed on the watch list and then denied their Second Amendment rights--all thanks to the "gun grabbers" at the White House.) The so-called civil liberties article seemed a stroke of political genius: not only had it whipped up enthusiasm for impeachment in rural America, but it had also attracted cautious support even from liberals appalled by the roundups of illegal aliens and other crackdowns of the Gorelick Justice Department.
White House political advisers warned Gore he needed to take bold action to save his presidency--and there was only one obvious option on the table: invade Iraq. Gore had thought the whole idea of an Iraq invasion made no sense and was based on skimpy evidence. But McCain and Lieberman--egged on by influential columnists like Tom Friedman and The Washington Post editorial page--had never given up their campaign for war. They relentlessly pushed Tenet to make his "best case" to Gore. When Tenet told the president in December 2002 that it was a "slam dunk" that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, Gore had seemed annoyed. "This isn't a basketball game, George," Gore had shot back, demanding to know how many sources the agency really had in Baghdad. ("None," Tenet was forced, sheepishly, to admit.)
But by the spring, Gore's resistance to an invasion began to soften, especially after his secretary of state, Richard Holbrooke--who had previously been on the fence--finally sided with the hawks. Holbrooke cited evidence--purportedly gleaned from the interrogation of a Qaeda detainee rendered to Egypt by the CIA--that Iraq had trained Qaeda operatives to use chemical weapons and might even be helping them acquire nuclear weapons. "We can't wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud, Mr. President," Holbrooke, with his flair for melodrama, said at one cabinet meeting. Under pressure, Gore caved. On March 20, 2003, on the very day his impeachment trial began in the Senate, Gore announced that he had ordered the U.S. military to invade Iraq--not for the purpose of overthrowing Saddam's regime--but to find "every last one of his WMDs".
The limited purpose of the invasion drew howls of derision from conservatives. But as American troops marched into Baghdad and were hailed as heroes (if less by the Iraqis than by American reporters who had been "embedded" with the military), public opinion started to swing back to Gore. To be sure, American soldiers couldn't find any WMDs or Qaeda terrorists either. But Saddam fled his palace and Gore proclaimed the country "liberated". Meanwhile, in his Senate trial, DeLay's maneuver of combining an article impeaching the president for doing too little to protect the country with another one impeaching him for doing too much started to backfire. "This is an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink case," proclaimed Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle. "And can our Republican friends really sit here with a straight face and tell us that if George W. Bush had been elected president he would have done anything different about Al Qaeda than President Gore".
Still, the vote was nerve-bitingly close and very much in doubt until GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham--heavily lobbied by his friend McCain--gave a dramatic floor speech announcing he would vote to acquit. "I care about this country too much to vote to impeach two presidents in a row," said Graham, who had been one of the House floor managers for Clinton's impeachment four years earlier. Much as Justice Kennedy's last-minute switch had made Gore president, Graham's unexpected about-face in the Senate saved him--by one vote.
VI. The Final Days
The rest, as they say, is history. Gore narrowly won reelection in 2004--but only because Cheney, his GOP opponent, had terrified the country by declaring he wanted to invade Iran and, "if they don't shape up," Syria, North Korea, and Venezuela as well. Within months into his second term, Gore found he was saddled with two wars--neither of which was going well. To invade Iraq, Gore had been forced to pull troops and logistical support out of Afghanistan, resulting in a resurgence of the Taliban (and the escape of bin Laden and Al Qaeda through the mountains of Tora Bora. In Iraq, a Sunni insurgency was spreading rapidly, throwing the country into chaos and resulting in the deaths of 3,000 Americans by the end of 2006. Gore--who had never wanted to invade Iraq in the first place--was heartsick over the slaughter. He began looking for an exit strategy. In December 2006, he rejected calls for a "surge" of new troops to Iraq and adopted the recommendations of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, chaired by former secretary of state Jim Baker and former Indiana congressman Lee Hamilton, calling for a phased withdrawal. McCain resigned. Sources close to Lieberman put out word he was considering abandoning the Democrats. By Gore's last year, his approval ratings were at historic lows in the mid-30s.
Small wonder then that, in 2008, Americans elected GOP candidate and former Florida governor Jeb Bush--who pledged to clean up the mess in Washington and restore America's honor and prestige around the world. He trounced Gore's handpicked successor, John Kerry. The Gore years were over. A new era, the Age of Bush, was about to begin.
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1. The House GOP Caucus was simply not crazy enough to vote for a second failed impeachment that quickly.
2. senate after the 2000 election was 50-50 but then Jeffords switched to make it 51-49. Impeachment takes a 2/3rds vote. So it was dead before it started
3. No chance Cheney runs in 2004 or is nominated if he ran. Mostly likely candidate would have been McCain.
~ If Gore won the election and the 9/11 attacks still occurred on schedule, I don't see him invading Iraq. That country had nothing to do with the attacks other than Hussein having a big mouth in congratulating the Jihadists. Bush went into Iraq because 1) they had oil that he wanted 20 they ~dared~ to put a contract on his daddy (which failed) and 3) they had oil. Gore wasn't an oilman, so he wouldn't have called for war against them. Also, he would have pressed harder for the capture (alive or verifyably dead) of bin Ladin, which Bush didn't bother with. Bush used bin Ladin as a boogeyman to frighten Americans into going along with his schemes.
~ I doubt Gore would have been panicked into invading Iraq just to "save his presidency." There would have to have been real evidence of a direct and serious threat to the U.S., or proof (of the sort Bush, and Bush administration media proxy William Safire, kept insisting had to be there somewhere) of a direct link between Saddam and 9-11.
I also aagree with Scott Palter that the GOP would not have had the stomach for another impeachment fight after the last one, which hurt them in the '98 midterms. Especially since, as with Clinton, their chances of getting a conviction would, realistically, have been near zero.
~ Great to see alternate history in the mainstream, even if imperfect.
~ Gore would have had trouble from the minute he was sworn in---a lot of people thought that the Democrats' actions in Florida and elsewhere stunk to high heaven. Among other things, they did want to ignore Florida law.
~ Makes no sense at all. You can't impeach anyone for something they did before an election. It sounds like pure drama. Have him actually do something wrong.
Editor says, what if the former belligerents of the American Civil War clashed again at the Washington Naval Conference? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).
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In 1921, two years after the Confederacy sought to regain the so-called "occupied territories" at Versailles, the Great Powers conducted further round table talks at the Washington Naval Conference. This time around the goal was to defuse the naval arms race that was threatening the fragile world peace that had existed since the end of the Great War.
Washington Naval Conference by Michael N. Ryan & EdIn reality, relations between the United States and Britain had been at boiling point even before the Trent Affair. And ever since the scuttling of the Reichsmarine at the Scapa Flow, tension had escalated sharply. Matters had worsened in Paris, with the British advocating the return of the "occupied territories" to the CSA as part of a comprehensive peace settlement.
Both navies had been rebuilding at a frightening rate, and the new sixteen inch guns that were being fitted on battleships would soon be upgraded to eighteen. Worse still, Japan, France and Italy had now joined the arms race too. The Union insisted upon a formula for a larger allocation of capital ships because of her commitments in both the Atlantic and the Pacific.
As if that demand wasn't offensive enough, the Americans also took the opportunity to break the naval codes of the Japanese delegation led by Admiral Yamamoto (pictured). It was a bad mistake that would bring the Japanese strongly into the British camp. And when the British offered the Japanese shared usage of the new super-modern fortified port at Singapore, the Union would wake up to some grave new security threats in the Pacific theatre.
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~ Yamamoto was a Comander at the time and studying in Harvard. Italy and France were still too war
tired from the previous conflict to be effective but they did none the less join the negotiations and
signed in on the dotted lines. Italy actually scrapped its fifteen inch gun battleships under
construciton and stayed with the twelve inch gun battleships she had from before the war.
The irony about the Japanese codes was that they were broken so quietly but the top American
negotiator made that public with the denunciation "Gentlemen do not read other Gentlemen's mail".
~ I don't think Britain would have shared Singapore though. Japan was at the time their big ally but I d
don't think they would share so far as that.
~ This sounds a little like something out of Turtledove's TL-191 books. I don't know that the CSA would necessarily want to drag the rest of the world in on its quarrels with the US.
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In 1859, on this day a team of "out of uniform" militiamen were dispatched from Richmond, VA, under secret orders from Governor Henry A. Wise to kidnap the half-dozen prominent northerners who had conspired to organize John Brown's attack on the federal arsenal at Harpers Ferry.
Harpers Ferry Raid, Part 2
In Pursuit of the Secret Six by Ed., Scott Palter & Eric OppenAs the secessionist crisis reached a new level of intensity, wiser heads in Washington recognised that southern demands for justice could only be satisfied by swiftly bringing to justice the "Secret Six". Trouble was, the tiny US Marshall Service were totally inequipped for the task, because many of the abolitionists had bolted, some across the border into Canada. Worse the Federal Government had absolutely no legal authority to seize the men, and on paper at least, was no more able to extradite the men than the State of Virginia, which had issued the arrest warrants just the day before. Which was precisely why Governor Wise had resorted to decidely unorthodox means to seize the men who sent John Brown to Harper's Ferry. And thus the Union was trapped in its own Federalist logic, because the General Government could only act by stamping on State's Rights which were the very core of the issue threatening to tear America in two.
And yet all was not lost. Because, fortunately for the future of the Union, the new Attorney General Wade Keyes was an independent thinking southern lawmaker who anticipated Governor Wise's hotheaded actions, and had developed his own super-clever strategem for defusing the crisis. Realising that US President John Buchanan was not up to the task of resolving crisis, he demonstrated true leadership by taking matters into his own hands, instituting treason charges on his own and daring Buchanan to repudiate them.
And surely Keyes' predecessor, the divisive figure of Jeremiah Sullivan Black (pictured) would have excaberated the crisis, being not only the most influential of President Buchanan's official advisers, but also a stubborn theocrat who made matters worse by spending his time denying the constitutionality of secession.
Black consider his biggest achievement to be his success in contesting the validity of the California land claims to about 19,000 square miles of land, fraudulently alleged to have been granted to land-grabbers and others by the Mexican government prior to the close of the Mexican-American War. Hell bent on re-inforcing the authority of the Federal Government, Black would was incapable of the higher order understanding developed by Wade, that Washington had to intervene imaginatively to resolve the dispute. For the good forture of everyone apart from the Harper's Ferry Raiders and the Secret Six themselves, early in 1959, Black had been forced to resign for personal reason.
There was one force at work more powerful than either Governor Wise or Attorny General Wade Keyes: money. And before long, the first Secret Six member was in Southern hands, Franklin Sanborn, arrested by mercenaries at Concord, MA before the residents of the Town could rouse for his defence.
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~ They'd have to be _real_ careful, and maybe very lucky, to grab all of the Six, particularly if they were in Canada. And, once they were grabbed, getting them into slave territory, possibly clear across the free states, would be a non-trivial problem.
~ Might have capped the crisis or might have exploded it with Buchanan still in office. Would mean Lincoln running as a hard war candidate in the midst of ongoing hostilities. Would also mean the war would have started with the Union losing Maryland and DC.
~ My money's on explosion.
~ Lincoln never ran as a "war candidate"; he was primarily set on keeping the Union together by any means possible, but preferrably peaceful dialogue. It was the Fireaters who wouldn't talk. But three of the six were in Canada, one was in Europe (Wiki doesn't say where) and dying of TB. One (Gerrit Smith) confined himself to an insane asylem, denying all knowledge of John Brown and the other was Thomas Wentworth Higginson who stayed at home and publically claimed suppport of John Brown. So two could be brought to justice, one was dying anyway (probably wouldn't survive the trip back) and the other three were in Canada. If these three were kidnapped and brought back to Virginia (let's say by boat as to avoid travelling through free states), it might still cause an international incident with Britain becase Canada was still a British colony at the time. So you'd get your explosion, but from another potential source.
~ I concur with Mr. Braungart's point of the international incident. I doubt it'd cause war with Victoria's Britain, but it would give any breakaway CSA a much better diplomatic standing for support.
~ They could have gone into hiding -- this was the nineteenth century, and anybody who wanted to hide could stay hidden. (No doubt that the author of this piece was educated in Old Blighty...)
In 1927, Iosif Vissarionovich Dzugashvili (pictured), better known by his assumed name of Joseph Stalin, is expelled from the Soviet Communist Party, ending a power struggle which had been ongoing since the death of Lenin in 1924. Stalin Flees by Eric Lipps
Iosif Vissarionovich Dzugashvili, better known by his assumed name of Joseph Stalin, is expelled from the Soviet Communist Party, ending a power struggle which had been ongoing since the death of Lenin in 1924.
Leon Trotsky, born Lev Davidovich Bronstein, assumes leadership of the party, and will retain control until his death in 1949 from a cerebral hemorrhage.
Dzugashvili will flee into exile in Mexico, where he will die in 1953, having unsuccessfully attempted to organize a revolutionary movement in that country.
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Mr. Gore wondered aloud whether the decision could be parlayed into some sort of massive outcry from the black community, providing political cover for one last assault on George W. Bush.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who had been advising Mr. Gore throughout the post-election debacle in Florida, implored the vice president to use "every means available" to fight on, promising a "civil rights explosion".
Mr. Gore kept agonizing, Hamlet-like, until after 2 a.m. before finally calling Jackson.
In 1918, just twenty-four hours before, the Great War had ended for John Ronald Reuel Tolkien who now set about the life-long work of the Middle-earth opus. A good deal had been written while Tolkien was laid up in a military hospital and at home with trench fever. No long suffering from combat tension, Tolkien was not gripped with a new kind of fear. Not longer fearing death, he wonder if he still wanted to live. | Balrog |
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In 1869, on this day Victor Emmanuel Savoy was born in Naples in the Kingdom of Italy. He would rule Italy from 29 July 1900 until his death on 28 December 1947 [1].
House of Savoy Redeemed by Ed & Scott PalterDue to the political and economic instability of Europe between the wars, he was reluctantly forced to appoint a nationalist government. But he compounded the error by linking the fate of the House of Savoy to the Junta that took Italy to war in 1938 [2].
Four years later, the Allies took another fateful decision, to proceed with Operation Giant [3]. Ignoring the pleadings of his mother, Prince Umberto stayed with the Rome Garrison to restore the honour of the House of Savoy. And despite his tragic death (he was not yet forty) he had indeed assured that the Royal House of Savoy would emerge from the war with some shreds of prestige that would allow them to continue their reign. Of course the Western Allies were keen to put in place a bulwark against Communism, and in Italy (like Japan) saw the intrinsic value of continuity of a Head of State in a defeated nation that they need to convert to a Cold war ally.
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Politicians Source: Wikipedia Labels: House of Savoy, Victor Emmanuel III, Italy, King, Benito Mussolini. Editor says, [1] in reality reports Wikipedia - public opinion forced a plebiscite on whether to retain the monarchy or become a republic. On 9 May 1946, in hopes of influencing the vote, Victor Emanuel formally abdicated, succeeded by his son Umberto II. It did not work. Fifty-four percent of the voters favored declaring a republic in the referendum held less than a month later. All male members of the House of Savoy were required to leave the country and never return. The Kingdom of Italy was no more.
<[2] We assume no Munich Conference.
~ Making a stand in the defense of Rome is on the level with the king whose blood enriches the land. House of Savoy needed a martyr.
~ What happened to the Munich Conference in this TL?
~ Munich was Benny the Moose. No Mussolini no conference and the West must fight or punk. Essentially the hour of decision that happened over Poland in 1939 happens over the Sudetenland in 1938.
~ Italy's treatment of her royal family indefensible and vindictive.
~ Without Mussolini, probably no Hitler. Hitler, at least at first, aped the Blackshirts a lot. And without Hitler, no war, almost for certain-sure, no matter how irritated the Italians were about how WWI had come out; _nobody_ else seriously wanted more war.
~ There were enough other models of militarized rightwing radicals to draw on.
~ A very different Europe, to say the least.
Editor says, what if General Washington had refused the Presidency? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 1790, on this day the tenth State ratified the Second Constitution and George Washington became President-for-Life.
A Disagreeable Scheme, ReduxWith his administration destroyed by Debt Assumption, Whiskey Rebellion and Indian troubles, his predecessor James Madison had already quit in disgust and returned to his native Virginia.
And as the Republic began to fall apart, a Second Constitutional Convention was hastily assembled. Inevitably, General Washington, who had declined the Presidency at the first convention, was recalled (mostly because the Army would not mobilize under any other leadership figure).
Subsequently, Washington attempted to sell a new compact to the States, although ultimately he failed to persuade North Carolina and Rhode Island. This is a variant ending to A Disagreeable Scheme in which Gen Washington also refuses the Presidency
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~ Eeek...
~ We could have some really interesting borders around what we call the United States. I suppose almost anyone could First Admiral of the Rhode Island Navy and such. Ambition equals results with less competition in some reduced situations. Makes me wonder a bit as to who might have risen to power under this situation?
King Michael Jordan of North Carolina?
~ Well, that escalated quickly! A good thing he was deep down a Cincinnatus.
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Editor says, what if Ned Kelly granted life, but on a condition? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the November 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 1880, on this day Ned Kelly (pictured) was granted life, but on a condition.
Ned Kelly granted life, but on a conditionThroughout his early life, the Australian state of Victoria was plagued by bushranger Edward "Ned" Kelly. He was the son of an Irish ex-convict who had been sent to Van Diemen's Land on charges of thievery, though many argued he was a patriot who had stood a little too tall. The senior Kelly's vigor-beyond-legality passed on to his son, and Ned was notorious for cunning, while questionable, activities. At age 14, he was arrested for assault (claiming he was defending his sister's honor); at 15, he was again arrested for assault (on a man who had borrowed a horse without permission) and harassing his wife. Kelly himself would be accused of horse-thievery, and, in the resulting altercation with one Constable Hall, he beat Hall and reportedly rode him like a horse. Kelly grew and eventually assumed a career in cattle-rustling.
A new story by Jeff ProvineIn what may or may not have been police harassment, Kelly was accused of shooting an officer in the wrist, and so a warrant was put out for his arrest. The Kellies' version of the story was that the constable, Alexander Fitzpatrick, had come asking about Dan Kelly while Ned was gone to New South Wales, made an inappropriate advance on Kate Kelly, and was hit with a coal shovel by the mother, Ellen. Fitzpatrick's doctor noted the smell of alcohol, but Judge Redmond Barry found Ned guilty on scant evidence, prompting a 15-year sentence if he were to be found. Instead, Ned and his brother Dan fled into the bush, later joined by Steve Hart and Joe Byrne.
The Kelly gang was pursued, and a shootout at Stringybark Creek left two officers dead, meaning that Kelly would now be wanted for more than assault. Knowing his life hung on a thread no matter what he did, Kelly turned to daring bank robberies. In Euroa, the gang stole some two thousand pounds while entertaining hostages with horsemanship theatrics. The police scurried to arrest known Kelly sympathizers, but his legend only grew as the government pressed harder. In Jerilderie, they impersonated police officers with uniforms stolen from the local police station, bought hostages drinks, stole another ?2000, and burned the mortgage papers of everyone in the town.
On June 27, 1880, the gang, dressed in long, gray cotton coats and large hats, raided Glenrowan. Beneath their clothes, unbeknownst to the police, was armor constructed out of plowshares that weighed nearly 100 pounds and was thick enough to deflect bullets. When police arrived and the shootout began, bullets bounced off Kelly and terrified police. They cried that he was the Devil or a bunyip. Constable Gascoigne hit Kelly point blank, but the man did not fall, and Gascoigne called out that he could not be hurt. Eventually, the volleys caught Kelly in the foot and hand, and he was brought down and arrested.
The rest of his gang had died, Byrne dying from blood loss while Dan Kelly and Steve Hart reportedly committed suicide. Kelly stood before Judge Redmond Barry, the same who had promised to give him 15 years in the original harassment that had sent Kelly into the bush two years before. Barry sentenced Kelly to hang, but at the last moment 30,000 signatures for a stay of sentence were met with an enterprising lieutenant with an idea. In exchange for life imprisonment, Kelly would join in the designs of mass producing his armor for infantry.
Given into permanent custody of Her Majesty's Army, Kelly was taken to London where he and several military engineers reproduced his armor. The original suits had been made on a bush forge, but were of incredible quality, accidentally using the lower temperature and spotty nature of the rough forge to create uneven, more bullet-resistant metal. The armor designs would be put to use in the Boer War, where they would prove useful only in aggressive forward raids. Primarily, the armor was declared useless, though Kelly was maintained in military prison. He spent his time dictating and writing letters from his prison, denouncing the Australian government and arguing for the rights of Irish Catholics throughout the empire.
When the First World War began, trench warfare turned advances into slaughter until Kelly's armor was reintroduced in 1916. At the Battle of the Somme, armor-clad British soldiers stormed across No Man's Land. While many were cut down in the legs by machine gun fire and others simply fell over and were unable to get up, the pushing force overwhelmed German troops and started the general retreat from France that would end the war in 1917.
As Europe breathed between the wars, the Kaiser began a new arms race, developing motorized Panzer that would be emulated by other nations. In 1936, the Second World War would begin due to Germany's move into Austria during socialist riots. The new war would be nothing like the stalemate of the first and spread the deadness of No Man's Land across much of the continent. Kelly would not live to see the massive destruction his idea had caused, having died in prison in 1928, still writing in criticism of abusive tyranny.
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~ Actually, body armor was tried during the First World War, and found to be not worth the trouble except for sentries at very isolated posts---the extra weight in the mud was too much.
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In 1960, with the electoral recount process underway in the disputed States of Texas and Illinois, Lieutenant Colonel Vuong Van Dong and Colonel Nguyen Chanh Thi of the Airborne Division of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam effected a more dramatic change of government by assassinating President Ngo Dinh Diem.
Change of GovernmentAfter the plotters had trapped the ruling Ngo Family inside the Independence Palace, Diem tried to stall the coup by holding negotiations and promising reforms, such as the inclusion of military officers in the administration. Opposition politicians then joined the fray, exploiting his position, but Diem was simply playing for time, unaware that the 5th and 7th Divisions of the ARVN were unable to lift the siege because the plotters had closed the roads leading into the capital Saigon1.
Whilst this drama played out, lame duck President Eisenhower and his two successor candidates Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy were also in limbo. Both candidates decided to seize the initiative by putting forthrightly their views on both the situation in Indochina, and also the case for US intervention to save the region falling like a domino to Communism.
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~ At last! Someone's done the arithmetic and noticed that, for all the whining by Nixon supporters over the years about the 1960 election having been "stolen" in Chicago, Kennedy would have had enough electoral votes without Illinois to put him over the top. Throw in Texas as well, of course, and it's a whole different ballgame.
In fact, Nixon's people challenged the vote in a number of states, but except in the case of Illinois it was done discreetly. Perhaps they prefeerred to minimize the risk that their own victories in other states (California comes to mind) might be challenged by the Democrats.
In this scenario, I expect there'd have been even more backbiting and scheming over the election than there actually was. However, if JFK emerged victorious, at least his enemies couldn't blame him for Diem's assassination, not that some wouldn't try.
Comment from Arlena Arteaga Kelly on Facebook: Like the debate Truman should of had with his Vietnam advisors but didn't?
~ Anything at all that spared us Camelot is OK with me.
~ I can't see either JFK or Nixon doing what Mr. Speer suggested.
~ Probably a decade too late to break the DRVN off from the Soviets (which would be an unavoidable condition). Backing the Viet Cong may have been the most viable alternative to the clowns already running things in Saigon.
~ The problem here is that South Vietnam rivals the balkans in its corruption and instabability. Regardless of who wins, it is still a mess. To make matters worse, our army was not in any real condition at the head level and structure to fight and win a war. As for what might happen with the coup effecting things here, your guess is as good as mine. Since we were really not committed to the place at this time, I dought it will effect politics here that much.
~ 1. Nixon actually won the popular vote - AP misreported the quite confused situation in Alabama.
2. Yes the reversal needs Tx and IL both - always did and both were stolen. MO and DE were also debatable but like the Gore NM steal in 2000 do not change the final result. Have not read CA was disputed. Source or cite please.
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In 1796, largely due to the destructive misbehaviour of John Adams the victor of the first contested American presidential election was Alexander Hamilton (pictured).
Dragon's TeethNominally at least, Adams was Hamilton's senior in the Federalist Party however the Vice President had destroyed his revolutionary credentials by persisting in his advocacy of an American monarchy. Just a month into office, Adams had been labelled "his rotundity" in the Senate by arguing that George Washington should be addressed with the monikers "His Majesty the President" or "His High Mightiness" over the simple "President of the United States" that eventually won the debate.
A fact that was lost on no one was that the childless Washington was sterile, and the Vice President was almost alone amongst Founding Fathers in having a male heir, John Quincy Adams.
Thomas Jefferson was uncharacteristically drawn into the debate due to the indiscretion of a printer who repeated his harsh criticism of Adam's "Davila Papers". Never one to miss out on an argument, Adams accused Jefferson's anti-monarchism of being a Francophone in nature, stating that his former friend was sowing "Dragon's Teeth" in the new republic.
Prior to the passage of the Twelve Amendment, the runner-up in the presidential race was elected Vice President and consequently Hamilton was saddled with Colonel Aaron Burr. But by irony of circumstance, this unlikely partnership saved the young republic. Because Hamilton made the stupendous error of raising and organizing an army to fight the French by invading the colonies of her ally, Spain.
Hamilton congratulated himself that he had succeeded in pulling the "Dragon's Teeth" by ensuring that America would not be drawn into the French system of thinking. And yet it was not the end of the French episode, because in 1803 Napoleon Bonaparte's brother-in-law General Charles Leclerc landed in Louisiana with twenty-thousand crack troops. Fortunately, Burr was a crackerjack soldier, who, as an emergency Commander-in-Chief, crushed the French at New Orleans.
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Alternate Nations Source: Wikipedia Labels: 1796 election, Alexander Hamilton, Presidency, Aaron Burr, John Adams. Editor says, many thanks to Eric Oppen for suggesting this ingeniusly clever alternate ending
~ I'd think that if Leclerc landed, Hamilton would just appoint Burr the CinC of the US forces. Burr was always a crackerjack soldier, and IMNSHO his talents really lay in the military and education, not politics. Agreed. I have changed the story accordingly, with thanks
~ I suspect that Hamilton was too smart to rush the U.S. into a war with France and Spain, especially when those nations' support had been crucial to victory in the Revolution.
As for Washington's titles, he himself made it clear he was uncomfortable with elaborate forms of address.According to Wikipedia he was a strong advocate of attacking Spanish Colonies... but its an interesting discussion point, also Adams didnt realise the Quazi-war until in office so I think you might be right
~ I would guess that by going to war with Spain/France, we could kiss the Louisiana Purchase good-bye....
~ Then again, such a war might hasten the acquisition of Louisiana by the US...
~ Comment from Terrierkeeper on Discussions Group: Considering how awful Adams's administration was in regards to our republic, especially in its repressive policies against dissidents, I really can't imagine anything worse than what happened, though I must admit Jefferson's naval policy was worse along with his embargo.
Editor says, what if the Civil War had been triggered by the Harper's Ferry Raid? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).
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In 1859, on this day the State of Virginia issued warrants for the half-dozen prominent northerners who conspired to organize John Brown's attack on the federal arsenal at Harpers Ferry.
Harpers Ferry Raid, Part 1: "Those Who Sent Him"Accordingly, the "Secret Six" would be obliged to "surrender to fugitive's justice [from Brown's raid]" , being collectively "charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia". Because widespread popular protests in the North on the day of John Brown's execution infuriated Southerners such as Virginia Governor Henry A. Wise who admired Brown's courage and forthrightness but condemned "those who sent him [John Brown]". The enduring image is captured in "The Last Moments of John Brown", by Thomas Hovenden (pictured).
Governor Wise admired Brown's courage and forthrightness but condemned "those who sent him" Despite appeals for clemency, Wise staunchly refused to commute Brown's sentence. And his insistence on pursuing the "Secret Six" was no less determined. Wise argued convincingly that Harpers Ferry wasn't Brown's first act of psychotic madness. Just days after the proslavery sack of Lawrence, his band of men had killed several proslavery settlers in "Bleeding Kansas", hacking to death five men along Pottawatomie Creek with short, heavy swords.
If abolitionists praised Brown's compassion for the "poor slave," to white Southerners he was anarchy incarnate. Yet easy as it was to dismiss John Brown as a madman, the "Secret Six" were neither hardscrabble ruffians nor ex-slaves but respectable, wealthy residents of Boston radiating culture, education, and fortune. As such, they presented an especial threat to the slave-holding plutocracy, by serving as the archetypical Northern mercantilists who had undermined the Founding Father's dreams for Confederacy.
Senator James Mason of Virginia formed a Senate committee to investigate the raid, to validate Wise's allegations of Northern abolitionist complicity. After much hard talk about a Northern abolitionist cabal his committee colleague Senator Jefferson Davis of Mississippi, the committee found proof of Northern complicity "It would be hard to conceive of a conclusion other than conspiracy that to which the whole affair has come," the New York Times observed in June 1860. The same paper suggested that it would be a miracle if the next President had a Union to preside over come the next inauguration.
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~ Not sure I see where this is going. So Wise issues Virginia warrants. What New England court would enforce them? Still better what court in Canada would enforce it once the majority of them fled there?
~ I've always thought that the "Secret Six" were, at least, guilty of exploiting JB's mental instability to feed their own fantasies, and having them punished would have been justice.
~ There seems to be a word missing from the New York Times "quote." A what conclusion?
Apart from that, if Virginia had issued such warrants and Northern courts had refused to enforce them, that might have led to an earlier Civil War, with armed conflict perhaps beginning before the 1860 elections and possibly influencing their outcome--perhaps elevating a harder-line candidate, such as Edwin Stanton, to the U.S. presidency.
~ James Buchanon wouldn't have been able to handle it, BUT there would have been no Confederacy at the time. It took the Rebs about a year to get ready for the Civil War.
Editor says, what if a different precedent had been set at the first Thanksgiving? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). Also please note that substantial amounts of content have been repurposed from Wikipedia.
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In 1621, at Thanksgiving Township in the modern-day province of Wampanoag, English Settlers set apart a day to celebrate their first harvest festival.
The First Deliverance DayThe guest of honour, Ousamequin (also known as Massasoit), the Great Sachem of the Pokanoket had prevented the failure of the settlement, and the almost certain starvation that the English faced during the earliest years of the Township's establishment.
Moreover, the Sachem had forged critical political and personal ties with the leadership figures of John Carver, Stephen Hopkins, Edward Winslow, William Bradford, and Miles Standish.
"The English are my friends and love me".In "Mourt's Relation", Winslow himself would later record ~ "Many of the Indians coming amongst us, and among the rest their greatest king Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted, and they went out and killed five deer, which we brought to the plantation and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain and others".
In good spirit, the English settlers agreed henceforth to celebrate their deliverance with Native Americans on the fourth Thursday in every November.
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Religion Source: Wikipedia Labels: Thanksgiving, Deliverance, America, Pilgrims, English Settlers. Editor says, we suggest many broad changes without much justification, more of a why not? than a what if?.
~ Unfortunately, the Puritans did not have the idea "Let's co-exist with people who believe other than as we do!" on their hard-drives.
~ No, they didn't. their idea of "religious liberty" was "to freedom the force everyone to live and worship as we choose"--which was what had made them unpopular in England.
I suspect "Deliverance Day" would in short order have become a whites-only affair.
~ An alt!Puritan sect which could get thier heads around this would be an impressive AH seed in it's own right, but would they have left England?
~ Ah, thats the heart of the matter yes very wise comment HTG.
~ But, where are families in future generations going to find enough Native Americans to invite to each of their Thanksgivings? ;)
~ Lets say the Pilgrims are devout, inclusive Christians fleeing an atheist England? And rather than deflect anger at their treatment back at the indigenes, actually are rather keen to build a shiney new inclusive society in America.
~ Actually it's not overly hard to find Christain sects in England who where either tolerant &/or peace loving from the early 1600s onwards. In fact a couple of sects where really into the "make love not war" thing of the 1960s fame.
~ Yes, the Society of Friends (Quakers), who were the only group NOT to break treaties with the natives.
~ Some people think it's a holiday all about giving to the poor now days.
In 1941, on this day the S.S. Automedon was boarded by the German Raider Atlantis in the Indian Ocean.DLG '40 - Part 3: Force Orange
Onboard the Automedon were the plans for the defence of Singapore. The Germans discovered the documents but the recent peace settlement with Britain prohibited them from sending them to the Japanese. Shortly afterwards, the architect of that peace, David Lloyd George announced the formation of Force Orange (Lloyd George who had been appointed Prime Minister as an 'honest broker' after the Battle of Britain).
Heading towards Singapore was a battle group including Prince Of Wales and Repulse with support from HMS Indomitable, an Illustrious class aircraft carrier. First Sea Lord Sir Dudley Pound felt that Singapore could not be adequately defended, unless the Royal Navy sent the majority of its capital ships there, to achieve parity with the estimated nine Japanese battleships. That had been until recently considered unacceptable as the British were at war with Germany and Italy. On December 7th, the attack on Pearl Harbour would create an improbable scenario. British Seapower would be the only effective deterrent to Japanese aggression, which had been demonstrated in the invasion of French Indochina. ..(the story continues).
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Editor says, What if the catastrophe of 1948 had been for the Jews, and Yasser Arafat died in his lavish presidential compound at Ramallah in 2004? This story was published in the November 2008 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 2004, on this day the Palestinian Head of State, His Excellency Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini died at the Mukataa, his lavish presidential compound on the Central West Bank of the River Jordan.Turning Point
Yasser Arafat - as he was more commonly known from his freedom fighting days, or Abu Ammar by his kunya given name - was seventy-five years old and had dedicated his entire adult life to the founding of Palestine.
In 1947, Mr Arafat enrolled in the University of King Fuad I. During the 1948 War of Independence, Mr Arafat left Cairo to join Arab forces fighting against Zionist troops. In early 1949, when the war was winding down in Palestine's favor, Mr Arafat returned to study Political Science, serving as president of the General Union of Palestinian Students. During his first year as president of the union, the institution was renamed Cairo University after a coup was carried out by the Free Officers Movement overthrowing King Farouk I. By that time, Mr Arafat had graduated with a bachelor's degree and was called to duty with Egyptian forces during the Suez Crisis to repel a fresh set of invaders, this time the British and French. The unconditional backing of the Free Officers Movement, and in particular the lifelong support of Abdul Gamal Nasser and his successors would be key to Mr Arafat's own rise to power in Ramallah.
Accordingly, a week of national mourning was declared in both Ramallah, and nearby East Jerusalem, just 10 kilometers (6 miles) to the north of the capital city.
Students of irony might care to note that the term Mukataa although commonly used to describe Palestinian government bureau and centres actually means 'something separated' in Arabic. This term could equally apply to the desperately unhappy state of a Zionist organisation led by Mr Binyamin Netanyahu, currently residing somewhat further away from the 'Eternal City of the Jews' than that gentleman would undoubtedly have preferred.
In Ellington, Connecticut Mr Netanyahu convened a news conference in his capacity as the Head of Congregation Knesseth Israel. Founded in 1906 by a group of Jewish farmers, the synagogue was built in 1913 partly with funds from the philanthropist Baron Maurice de Hirsch's Jewish Colonization Association. The choice of the Constitution State was unintentionally symbolic; the motto of Connecticut is Qui transtulit sustinet, in Latin meaning 'He who transplanted sustains'.
Of course the Jewish Colonization Association had long labelled Mr Arafat an Arab nationalist and a terrorist, saying his death could be a turning point for Jewish fortunes in the Middle East.
Despite the catastrophe of 1948, the people of Eretz Israel had not given up on their vision of a Jewish State in the Middle East, said Netanyahu. However, when pressed, he refused to give a road-map stating that 'for the foreseeable future', the Jewish homeland would be these agricultural colonies on real estate purchased by the committee, in the Americas.
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Generals Source: BBC News Labels: Yasser Arafat, Palestine, Palestinian Liberation Organisation, Zionist, Jewish State. Editor says, In this scenario, rather than the Palestinian leadership holed up on Ramallah, we turn the tables and imagine the Jewish leadership raging in impotence over a lost history. No agenda other than a perspective shift on a simple reversal.
~ Connecticut is more like northern New Jersey ;) Might want to fix that. One other thing - the British might consider Palestinian freedom fighters terrorists, but why would Jews? Unless the Palestinians are actively fighting a recolonization of their country by the Jews, in which case I see the point. Anyway, enough rambling from this aged Alt-Historian...
~ Interesting turn of events as I gather Isreal was never founded. But I agree with Robbie Taylor, if the Palistinians are the legitimate rulers of the region, why are they considered the terrorists?
~ I have often said that the Palestinians got a massive, and undeserved, ream job from history. However, if they had prevailed, I don't think that Yasser Arafat would ever have been heard of---he'd be nobody much.
~ I still disagree with the labeling of Arafat as a terrorist by former Jewish rivals in Palestine - after all, the same label could be applied to them. Pot calling the kettle black, as it were. But, given how so many organizations try to label anyone they oppose as a terrorist (even in our own universe), I suppose I can accept it.
~ Potential to stir some debate here definitely! If you ask me, the notion of a STABLE (Ed.) Middle East are even more remote in this reality.
~ Great job! You made it make a lot of sense. You'd need to address how Arafat and his friends dealt with people like the al-Husseinis---the Mufti of Jerusalem, in particular, wanted power for himself and had a habit of assassinating people who looked like they'd be a threat.
I think in this TL the US would have a lot fewer problems in the Middle East; as of 1945 we had a lot of goodwill there, which we've merrily p*ssed away over the decades.
~ Rather, what I just said should be a STABLE Middle East! :P
~ Well, nobody can accuse our esteemed Editor of being reluctant to go out on a limb, that's for sure. :D
Editor says, what if the war to end wars really had? muses Robbie Taylor. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the May 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 1918, the Great European War ends with the downfall of all the monarchies on the continent.
Treaty of PragueAfter the Christmas Truce of 1914 had produced a huge body of soldiers unwilling to fight each other, these soldiers had returned to their native countries and begun fighting the regimes there. The 4 year struggle finally ended on this day with an agreement among the new governments in a dozen nations to never commit war against each other again.
The Treaty of Prague, signed by over a hundred soldiers and representatives of the new Peace governments, marked what President Wilson of America called, "the end of the war to end all wars".
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Generals Source: Wikipedia Labels: Treaty of Prague, World War I, Woodrow Wilson, Peace, Pacifism. ~ I don't think it's plausible to imagine the 1914-'18 war really "ending war." The imagined agreeent would last as long as its signatories found it convenient, and not a day longer.
~ Would that it were.
~ @Eric Lipps: Some of those signatories were looking to break it before the ink finished drying.
On this day in 1973, the Cowboys got their seventh win of the 1973 NFL season with a 27-23 comeback victory on the road over the New York Giants; shortly after the game it was disclosed that Roger Staubach would remain on injured reserve pending further medical tests. | |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Ice Bowl Source: Wikipedia Labels: Ban Johnson , Chicago White Sox, 1919, Sports, Baseball.In 1960, on this day President-elect John F. Kennedy used the occasion of a Veterans' Day gathering in Boston to outline his ideas for expediting federal aid to New York City's post-hurricane recovery effort. | Pres. Elect |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Jamaica Bay Source: Wikipedia Labels: New York, Hurricane, America, 1948, Disaster.In 2001, President Al Gore confers with British prime minister Tony Blair in the first of a series of meetings aimed at assembling a Desert Storm-style international coalition to support the U.S. in the event that a full-fledged military intervention in Afghanistan becomes necessary. | |
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Such intervention, if undertaken, is sure to be controversial, since there are many who will argue that invading a sovereign country is a disproportionate response even to a terrorist attack like the Sept. 11 downing of United Airlines Flight 93 by agents of the terror group Al Qaeda. |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Gore Wins Source: Wikipedia Labels: Al Gore, Tony Blair, Desert Storm, September 11, War on Terror.In 1958 Sandy Koufax scored his 615th NBA career point in a 116-113 Celtics win over the Minneapolis Lakers at Boston Garden. | |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Koufax35 Source: Wikipedia Labels: Baseball, Sports, Sandy Koufax, Basketball, America.In 1918, on this day the Great War ends. | |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Trotskys War Source: Wikipedia Labels: Adolf Hitler, World War 1, Premature Death, Gas, Death.In 1959, Wisconsin Sen. Joseph McCarthy announces his intention to run again for the presidency. | |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Generals Source: Wikipedia Labels: Presidency, America, Richard Nixon, Eisenhower, Joseph McCarthy.In 1957, NASA Administrator T. Keith Glennan and rocket expert Wernher von Braun are summoned to the White House by President Eisenhower and questioned as to the feasibility of developing anti-ballistic missile technology to counter Soviet ICBM's, now that the launch of Sputnik has confirmed that the USSR has the technology to build intercontinental missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons to the United States. Both men express skepticism, Glennan observing that the only obvious method would be via an interceptor rocket, a technique he compares to 'hitting a bullet with a bullet.' | |
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Also present, however, is physicist Edward Teller, popularly (and not quite accurately) described as 'the father of the H-bomb.' Teller insists that ABM technology can and must be developed. 'If it is not,' he warns, 'the Soviets will soon be able to smash America to her knees with a barrage of intercontinental missiles in a Pearl Harbor-style attack, and then move in and conquer what remains of this nation.? In a private conversation later with his former Manhattan Project colleague Isidor I. Rabi, Teller goes further, claiming that if ABM technology is not developed immediately, he expects to be a prisoner in a Soviet concentration camp in a Communist America within five years. Rabi, who has become accustomed to such hyperbole from the militantly anti-Communist Teller, says nothing, but will recount the incident decades later in a television interview. |
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Earth Source: Wikipedia Labels: Thomas Glennan, NASA, Space Race, America, Cold War.| Ariel Sharon | In 2004, the Chairman of the Jewish Colonization Association, Ariel Sharon spoke of the death of Yasser Arafat at a press conference in Colonia Lapin, Buenos Aires Province. Sharon reminded the world press of a comment made by President Arafat In an interview published on 1969-06-15, the Sunday Times which quoted him saying: 'There were no such thing as Israelis, only Jews. When was there an independent Israeli people with a Jewish state? It was either southern Syria before the First World War, and then it was a Palestine including Jordan. It was not as though there was an Israeli people in Palestine considering itself as a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.' |
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The Jewish Colonization Association was established by Baron Maurice de Hirsch in 1891. The association was greatly affected by the British withdrawal from mandated territory in Palestine in 1947, considering the move an act of betrayal following the Balfour Declaration of 1917. By 1947, oil had been discovered in the Middle East, and the Western Powers were more concerned about keeping the Arab nations on board. At the one hundredth anniversary celebration in 1991, having abandoned demands for final status talks, the Association was seriously considering either a South American option or in fact an Israel mini-state. The JCA also established several colonies in Argentina. Once such colony is Colonia Lapin founded in 1919 in the Buenos Aires Province. |
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Editor says, what if the Hungarians had prevailed at Varna? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.
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In 1444, on this day a mixed Papal army defeated a large Ottoman force near Varna in eastern Bulgaria.
Glorious Papal Victory at VarnaTheir hard fought victory was a personal triumph for Władysław III of Poland (also King of Hungary). Over-ruling the sound advice of the more experienced Bulgarian Commander Hunyadi János, he rushed five hundred of his Polish knights against the Ottoman center in a bold move that ultimately won the day.
It was of course a huge risk but the only way that the thirty thousand man Papal Army could overcome an Ottoman force nearly twice the size. It would prove a crucial turning point in the Ottoman War.
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Permalinks: Post, Day. Browse Thread: Generals Source: Wikipedia Labels: Hungary, Poland, Ottoman, Turk, Papal. Editor says, in authoring this post we have repurpose content from Wikipedia which reports ~ The Ottoman Army under Sultan Murad II defeated the Hungarian and Polish armies commanded by Władysław III of Poland (also King of Hungary) and Hunyadi J´nos. It was the final battle of the Crusade of Varna. The death of Władysław left Hungary in the hands of the four-year-old Ladislaus Posthumous of Bohemia and Hungary. The defeat also set the stage for the fall of Constantinople in 1453.
~ It might have held off the inevitable for a while, but I do think that the Ottomans were on a roll.
~ But, this could have sent Ottoman advances in other directions, and changed some European history.
~ Might even have crippled them if the morale fell. We'd have a different history for Africa and the Middle East all around.
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