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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Tataro-Mongols had fought at the Ugra River? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the October 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1480, the future of Tatar rule over Russia was assured by a hard-fought Mongolian victory on the banks of the Ugra River.

Battle of the Ugra RiverWith Akhmat Khan occupied in a struggle with the Crimean Khanate, Ivan III abruptly ceased paying annual tribute to the Great Horde, a decision which effectively forged an alliance between Muscovy and Crimea. Poland-Lithuania under Casimir IV [1] had been provoked by the Muscovite annexation of Novgorod, and a bloody four-power battle was fought on the banks of the Ugra River.

In the face of such grave danger, the Russian boyars fractured into two groups: one, led by okolnichies Oschera and Mamon, wanted Ivan III to flee; the other wanted to fight the Horde. Ivan's final decision to face the Horde was affected by the Russians who had demanded action on the part of the Grand Prince. But the Russian disunity was exploited by the Khan, who had been misadvised to do no more than organize a stand-off, a move that would surely have been misinterpreted as a sign of great weakness.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality a standoff heralded the end of the horde. [1] The Polish-Lithuanian forces played no part in the battle.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-10-08 07:23:51 ~ Eventually Mongol rule would have been broken. They were great conquerors but had little sstaying power.

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-10-08 09:30:26 ~ Napoleon and Hitler could have sought to sack and pillage far away Ulan Batar rather than Moscow? Conflict in Europe, not to mention Asia, might have looked very different.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-10-08 09:35:13 ~ Actually, it didn't matter who won these battles. The Crimean Tatars never wanted to rule Russia. There weren't enough of them. They were slave raiders, period. They called their annual invasions "The Harvest of the Steppes."

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2012-10-08 09:52:29 ~ If the Rus principalities remained vassals of the Golden Horde then odds are they would end up the tail wagging the dog (even if the Slavic rulers were converted and assimilated into the Turco-Mongol ruling class the center of power would shift north). Technological shifts meant that the steppe could not dominate urban and heavily farmed areas for much longer.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-10-08 10:08:59 ~ H - The conversion you suggest is highly unlikely. It would take hundreds of years. As I said earlier, the Tatars always lacked the numbers to complete conquest. They were always mounted raiders. They never came to stay. If they did, they would have been subsumed as were the Avars before them.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-10-08 10:22:23 ~ To understand why the Tatars never tried to conquer Russia, it is necessary to understand the nature of Islamic empires (the Ottoman being the exception). Muslim empires were all (including the Ottoman) were built on the slave trade. In order to succeed for a lengthy period of time, they needed a nearby source of slaves. When the last Saracen fortresses in France and Italy fell in 970, the Omayyids were doomed. That's why they never conquered France -- once an area became "dar es salaam" it became forbidden to steal women or castrate men, especially if they were dhimmi Christians or Jews. (The Ottomans got around this by levying taxes in the form of children who became slave soldiers or sex slaves). if the Tatars conquered Russia, it would interfere with the "white gold" trade, and they would have to disperse to hold the territory. It wouldn't work.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-10-08 21:36:48 ~ If Peter the Great gets butterflied out, no updating of Russia, and we could very well see the imperialistic Europeans of the west moving in. Maybe Sweden creates a great eastern empire through Siberia.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-10-09 00:23:56 ~ Jeff - More likely the Poles. Perhaps the Poles and the Swedes clash over Moscow, or ally to take it, the Poles seeking to control all of Ukraine and Belarus. But I don't see Sweden controlling all of Russia. I see them exhausted by a fight against Kazan. They would win in, but lose most of Russia within half a century. They would retain the Baltic and Karelia.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Ike had died on the Golf Links?. muses John Reilly. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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The year 1957, is not chosen at random. That is the year contemplated by "Dropshot", the U.S. plan for a third world war, which governed strategic thinking for the 1950s. [continues from Part 1] In actuality, or course, even if the Soviets got to Antwerp, they would be most unlikely to have arrived in Amarillo three years later. Rather than the immediate loss of Western Europe, we must imagine Central Europe becoming a debatable region.
Continues from Part 1

Part Two of "Dropshot", World War III in 1957After absorbing the initial offensive, Dropshot calls for NATO to hold the line while the resources of the United States were mobilized. Realistically, this could have taken at least a year. During that time, it would have been extremely difficult to keep NATO together. One of the points which "Not This August" emphasizes as a factor in the defeat of the United States is the role of the Communist underground. The state of the evidence suggests that such a concern may be more than simple McCarthyite paranoia. The part played by Communists and communist sympathizers in the politics and culture of the U.S. in the 1930s and 1940s is still insufficiently appreciated. If I had to name a single book to support this point, I would suggest the last of Upton Sinclair's "Lanny Budd" novels, entitled "A World to Win". Published in 1946, it describes sympathetically the adventures of a wealthy American Communist as he moves about the world during and just before the war, helping to organize the fight against Fascism. The author, who made no secret of his own leftist sympathies, describes the pro-Soviet cells which exist everywhere in the U.S., in Hollywood and Washington and the arts. This, of course, was all edifying progressive fiction, but it seems to have been fictionalized rather than fantastic.

A new article by John Reilly The pro-Soviet streak in America politics did real harm during the Molotov-Ribbentrop pack, when it actively impeded U.S. attempts to prepare for World War II. It continued to do harm throughout the Cold War era, up to and including the "Nuclear Freeze" movement of the 1980s, which nearly succeeded in depriving American negotiators of the bargaining power they needed to get the Soviets to reduce the number of nuclear weapons. While this force in American politics would have been as active as possible during a U.S.-Soviet war, they might not have counted for that much, considering the high degree of national unity there would have been. In any event, they would have worked through front groups as much as possible. This would not have been the case in Europe. The powerful Communist Parties in France and Italy were openly and proudly pro-Soviet, indeed pro-Stalin. They could and would have organized work stoppages and mutinies. The peace movements they would have supported would have been particularly persuasive with hostile and at least temporarily triumphant armies only a few hundred miles away. Even if they could not have forced their countries to surrender, they could have made all but the most perfunctory participation in the war impossible.

Still, these political difficulties would have been no more insurmountable than those that had to be overcome to win the Second World War. Assuming, therefore, that NATO holds together while it rearms and regroups, the second phase of the war could begin. Dropshot contemplated an offense that would ultimately result in the occupation of the Soviet Union. Again, however, it did nothing to suggest that anyone would enjoy trying this in real life. The plan considered the various ways that the Soviet Union might have been invaded, and finds all but one of them either impractical, like a drive north from the Middle East, or useless, like an invasion of the Soviet Far East. The only way to do it is the hard way, back eastward across the north German plain and into Poland. Securing the Balkans would be necessary simply to secure this endeavor.

Having defeated the Soviet armies in Eastern Europe, the rest of the war would have resembled the German campaign of 1941, but without Hitler's mental problems. I can summarize the final stage of the war no better than by quoting Dropshot itself:

"22. In the event of war with the USSR, we should endeavor by successful military and other operations to create conditions which would permit satisfactory accomplishment of U.S. objectives without a predetermined requirement for unconditional surrender. War aims supplemental to our peacetime aims should include:

"a. Eliminating Soviet Russian domination in areas outside the borders of any Russian state allowed to exist after the war.

"b. Destroying the structure of relationships by which the leaders of the All-Union Communist Party have been able to exert moral and disciplinary authority over individual citizens, or groups of citizens, in countries not under Communist control.

"c. Assuring that any regime or regimes which may exist on traditional Russian territory in the aftermath of a war:

(1) Do not have sufficient military power to wage a war.

(2) Impose nothing resembling the present Iron Curtain over contacts with the outside world.

"d. In addition, if any Bolshevik Regime is left in any part of the Soviet Union, ensuring that it does not control enough of the military-industrial potential of the Soviet Union to enable it to wage war on comparable terms with any other regime or regimes which may exist on traditional Russian territory.

"e. Seeking to create postwar conditions which will:

(1) Prevent the development of power relationships dangerous to the security of the United States and international peace.

(2) Be conducive to the development of an effective world organization based on the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

(3) Permit the earliest practicable discontinuance within the United States of wartime controls".

This passage is not without relevance to the state of the world in 1995. Let us imagine, however, that all this has been achieved, but the year is only 1960. (3) What would postwar history have been like?

The burden of Arnold Toynbee's great multivolumed work, "A Study of History," is that our civilization has broken down and that it is now (during the 20th century) in a "time of troubles," like the Hellenistic period in the ancient West and the Era of Contending States in China. Such periods are characterized by "world wars". In the course of them, one great power delivers a "knockout blow" to its main rival, and sooner or later goes on to establish a universal state, like the Roman Empire. The war Dropshot envisioned would have been such a blow. Actually, Toynbee thought that a third world war would probably be started by the United States and won by the Russians, "because they have a more serious attitude toward life". Be that as it may, since we are working with the U.S. war plan, let us consider what the result of a Western victory would have been.

The world of 1960 after Dropshot would have been poorer than the real world of that time. Africa and the great arc of Eurasia around Russia would have collapsed into ethnic squabbling as the reach and attention of the great powers were withdrawn. On the whole, the non-communist countries of East Asia might have been invigorated, as they were by the Korean and Vietnam Wars. However, there would have been no comparable world demand for consumer goods for these countries to exploit. They could well have experienced a war boom, followed by prolonged depressions, as their home markets slowly recovered.

China, we assume, would have been part of the losing alliance. Dropshot did not devote a great deal of attention to it. If the plan had actually been implemented, it is unlikely that country would have been the scene of major U.S. operations. However, with China's attention diverted toward supporting the Soviet war effort, it is conceivable that the U.S. might have backed a Nationalist reinvasion of southern China. It is debatable whether this would have found wide support. The Communist regime did not begin to mismanage the country significantly until the Great Leap Forward of the late 1950s, a program which presumably would have been postponed in the event of a war. However, what with the stresses of a lost war and such resentment against the regime as had already been generated, it is possible that China would have fallen apart, much as it had during the warlord era of the 1920s, and as it may again in the later 1990s when Deng Xiao Peng dies.

The biggest differences between a post-Dropshot world and the actual world of 1960 would have been in Russia, Europe and the United States. Russia and Eastern Europe in the late 1950s were still recovering from the effects of World War II, and the last thing they needed was another war. In some ways, perhaps, the Dropshot war would been less damaging than the Second World War, since it was supposed to be faster and would not have been directed against civilians. The plan called for a war of tanks, fought for the most part on the plains of northern Europe. It would still have been a catastrophe, but one that would not have returned the region to 1945 levels.

Russia in 1960 might have been better able to make the transition to a market economy than it was in the 1990s, for the simple reason there was a substantial portion of the population who were already adults during the last period when free enterprise had been allowed to operate, during Lenin's "New Economic Policy" of the 1920s. It might, for instance, have been fairly simple to recreate peasant agriculture. On the other hand, Russian industry in the 1950s was even more strictly military than it was in the final stages of the Soviet Union in the 1980s. Since the military occupation of Russia in 1960 would have been largely concerned with closing down the country's military potential, this would have meant closing down all but a small fraction of the country's industry. The country would have become, at least for a while, a country of peasants and priests. This prospect might warm the heart of Alexander Solzhenitsyn, but the reality might not have been sustainable.

In Western Europe, the 1950s boom would gave been cancelled. Even assuming the Dropshot war did less damage than the Second World War, still it would have been the third major war in the region in fifty years. Maybe that would have been too much. People can only be expected to rebuild so many times before they begin to despair about the future. It is hard to imagine the normal market mechanisms of savings and investment operating at all in such environment. What fool would invest money in a society that seemed to explode every 20 years? Who would even want to keep money? People would try to turn their savings into tangible assets as quickly as possible. The cloud of despondency would ultimately lift, of course, but would be greatly impeded by the factor we will consider below.

Even in America, collectivism would have triumphed. As several historians have pointed out, what we call socialism is simply the institutionalization in peacetime of the command economy measures devised by Britain and Germany to fight the First World War. These institutions would have been greatly strengthened throughout the West, but especially in the United States, by the experience of two world wars so close in occurrence. We should remember that enlightened opinion in the U.S. of the 1950s was that command economies really were superior in most was to market economies. It was universally assumed that pro-market policies could never cure underdevelopment in the Third World. Certainly the literature of the era is filled with ominous observations that the Soviet Economy was growing much faster than the U.S. economy during the same period. If the highly regimented American economy envisioned by Dropshot had actually succeeded in winning the Third World War, this attitude might have become a fixed assumption of American culture, as it did in so many other countries during the same period. Private enterprise would doubtless have continued to constitute a major share of economic activity, but it would have been so tightly regimented as to be virtually a creature of the state. And there would have been no example, anywhere on Earth, of an important country that did things differently.

The '60s, as we knew them, would also have been cancelled. Partly, of course, this would have been because the country would have been broke. Everyone would have had a job with a fixed salary, of course, but there would have been little money for cars or highways or private houses. America would have remained a country of immense, densely populated cities, most of which would have consisted of public housing. The biggest difference would have been the psychology of the younger generation. The young adults of the 1950s, who had been children during the Second World War, could not have conceived of allowing themselves the indiscipline and disrespect shown by the young adults of the actual 1960s. The "Silent Generation" of the 1950s knew from their earliest experiences that the world was a dangerous place and the only way to get through it was by cooperation and conformity. If Dropshot had occurred, their children, the babyboom children, would have been even more constrained in childhood and correspondingly more well-behaved in young adulthood. Doubtless there would still have been something of an increase in the percentage of the young in higher education in the 1960s, but the campuses would have been a sea of crewcuts and neat bobs, white shirts and sensible shoes. The popular music would not have been memorable.

The world after Dropshot would have had certain advantages, of course. Total world expenditures on the military would probably have been much smaller than was actually the case. The nuclear arms race would never have occurred. Indeed, the more alarming types of nuclear missile, those with multiple warheads, would never have been invented. It would have been a world much less cynical than the one which actually occurred. The three world wars would have provided a sense of closure which modern history has not yet achieved. This time, finally, all the great evils of the century would have been defeated. It would be unlikely to have resulted in Toynbee's universal state, at least not during the 20th century. The American people would probably have been as sick of the Adlai Stevenson Democrats after the Third World War as they were of the Roosevelt Democrats after the Second World War. The country would have kicked the victors out of office and sought to turn inward. America would not have been enthusiastic about further adventures for a long time to come.

The exhausted world I have described would doubtless have revived in a few decades. Nations would have broken out of the cultural constraints that the experience of universal conscription tend to impose on a generation. People would slowly realize that their highly regulated economies were not really keeping them safe but were really keeping them poor. There would be an episode of restructuring as technologies developed for the military were finally converted to consumer use, and old subsidized industries were allowed to die. All in all, the world of 1995 after Dropshot might have been similar to the one we see today. Still, it would have been reached at immensely greater cost, both economic and spiritual. We are not living in the best of all possible worlds, but it could easily have been worse.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-10-14 03:06:24 ~ There's a good point in here, about just _how_ pervasive Communist influence had been between about 1929 and 1946 or thenabouts.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-10-14 15:13:50 ~ I'm curious to hear your opinion on how the Civil Rights Movement (if it occurred at all) would have fared in this TL.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-10-14 16:14:20 ~ Personally, I'm deeply skeptical about the alleged influence of Communism during the thirties and forties. When one has to argue a real-life point on the basis of a novel, one is in trouble. As for the nuclear freeze movement, it's far from clear either that it was significantly Communist-influenced or that it impeded the U.S. in the late Cold War. To accomplish the latter, it would have actually had to slow President Reagan's pell-mell military buildup--and that's assuming Mr. Reilly is correct that the U.S., by way of superior armaments, essentially bullied the Soviets into cutting their arsenal. There's precious little evidence of this. Rather, what appears to have happened is that with Gorbacjev's ascent, the Soviets finally had a leader who neither remembered the Revolution nmor had fought in World War II, and who therefore had neither the ideological zeal of the revolutionary generation nor the security paranoia of those who'd faced national annihilation at the hands of Hitler. Just because Reagan said the movement was Communist-driven doesn't mean it was; he said the same in the 1960s about Medicare (on radio and LP records) and (in correspondence with Richard Nixon during the 1960 presidential race) the presidential candidacy of Hohn F. Kennedy. It's worth noting that actual membership in the U.S. Communist Party apparently shriveled after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, which many sincere idealists on the left regarded as a dreadful betrayal. Membership shrank from an estimated (by the FBI) high of about 90,000 in the mid-thirties to perhaps 5,000 by 1950, and as much as half of the 1950 membership may have been FBI informants. As for "fellow travelers," we'll never know, since the term is so elastic it could apply (and sometimes was applied) to anyone who served as a union officer (and wasn't called a Communist outright) to someone who simply supported the New Deal.

Readers Comment Brian Wall commented on 2010-10-14 17:06:29 ~ "Just because Reagan said the movement was Communist-driven doesn't mean it was;.." I would you grant that, except the evidence found in KGB files after the fall of the Soviet Union clearly stated that they had funded the anti-war movement in the 1960s as well using the Rosenbergs to spy on the US. I remember reading an article in the Washington Post back in 1992 or 93, where the author had personally visited Russia and had read the files in question.

Readers Comment John Reilly commented on 2010-10-15 00:02:13 ~ @Jeff: the Civil Rights Movement succeeded in large part because of the Cold War; the end of domestic segregation was necessary in order to court the Third World. End the Cold War early, even by a hot war, and maybe the whole thing happens more slowly.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Great Lakes Fires were blamed on meteors? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the October 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1871, in the early night hours of Sunday, a fire started on the O'Leary property at 137 DeKoven Street that would spread to destroy some four square miles in Chicago and kill hundreds of people.

Great Lakes Fires Blamed on Meteors There had been something of a drought, not much in the way of concern for local fire departments, but enough to propel destruction among wooden buildings on a strong wind. With its sudden start and widespread disaster (famously, even the Moody church burned), citizens were highly suspicious of arson and searched for a scapegoat.

A new story by Jeff ProvineAt the time, Michael Ahern was a reporter for the Chicago Republican. He had heard the rumor that the O'Learies (Catholic immigrants, prime targets for suspicion already) had negligently allowed their cow to kick over a lantern and then letting the fire go out of control. Other stories told of sneaked smokes by youngsters and thieves starting the blaze while attempting to steal milk. Ahern was about to write a story blaming specifically Mrs. O'Leary as some "colorful copy" when he came upon an even more exciting topic.

Fires had started suddenly throughout the Great Lakes region nearly simultaneously over the weekend. Peshtigo, WI, and surrounding villages had undergone an enormous blaze that killed some 2,000 people and torched millions of acres. Urbana, IL, over one hundred miles south of Chicago had also burned, as had Holland, Mansitee, and Port Huron in Michigan. Even Windsor, Ontario, in Canada burned on the 12th. News about the disasters trickled out slowly, but various cases of eyewitnesses noted smokeless balls of blue fire falling from the sky. After some consideration, Ahern wrote a shocking story that the origin of the Chicago fire had come from the heavens.

Other tabloids picked up the notion, and the idea seared into the Chicagoan public imagination. Scientific persons scoffed at a "rain of meteors" since they would be cool to the touch by the time they landed, but few listened to them. Instead, as Chicago underwent an incredible reconstruction program, observatories and atmospheric study stations were included. In 1882, a more serious proposal of the meteors was announced, and now the scientific community listened. Some began to argue for the mysterious "ball lightning", but the suggestion was now officially in the journals. By the time of the 1893 World's Fair in Chicago, a great wealth of knowledge was collected in the Meteor Hall, which afterward would be donated to Northwestern University.

Two decades later, Robert H. Goddard, a sickly part-time instructor at Clark University began soliciting funding for experiments with rockets. While the Smithsonian offered a princely sum of $5000, Northwestern seized the chance and offered funding as well as a position and student aides. Rockets, the departments affiliated with the study of the cosmos thought, would allow for first-hand exploration of outer space. With his arrival in Chicago, Goddard began intensive plans for high-altitude meteorological instruments and, eventually, designs for a possible, though impractically expensive, orbital rocket. Arguments about propulsion in vacuum dominated much of the rest of Goddard's career.

When the Nazis proved rocketry for military use was successful in the Battle of Britain, the US Army and Navy hurried to update Goddard's designs. While students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology worked on programmable trainers leading to computing, research at Northwestern led to development of "The Eagle," or what a jealous Werner von Braun would later call the "V-3". After the war, USSR would begin the Space Race by launching Sputnik, but Americans would swiftly turn and beat the Russians to the first man in orbit with Alan Shepard. Continual challenges would put men on the Moon with the Apollo program in 1963 and a short-term research station on Mars in 1974. The funding for exploratory rocketry along with the Cold War. By that time, short-range space-travel would prove profitable with hour-long sub-orbit intercontinental flights, zero-g tourism, communication and observation satellites, and Solar Energy Collection stations.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Ahern wrote the story blaming Mrs. O'Leary for the fire. In 1893, he would boastingly confess that he had made up the tale. Catherine O'Leary would die in 1895 of pneumonia, though descendants would say spending the rest of her life under public distrust caused her death from broken heart. Robert Wood would reexamine the meteor theory in 2004, claiming that it might have been methane released from the breakup of Biela's Comet, which would give a brilliant meteoric display in 1872.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-10-09 17:19:24 ~ This is a TL that deserves further exploration.

Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2010-10-09 17:44:25 ~ Again, one that leaves me wishing.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-10-09 20:05:45 ~ This would have been really neat.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-10-09 23:32:37 ~ Perhaps Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, the visionary Russian who anticipated by decades Gerard O'Neill's space colonies, would have gotten moree of a hearing.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-10-10 16:08:21 ~ Tsiolkvsky was one of those incredible geniuses who had no way to push his ideas. If he'd had an agent or even a carnival barker, we'd have moon cities by now.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Michael Jackson had fired his doctor muses Chris Oakley? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2009, on this day Michael Jackson's former personal physician, Conrad Murray sued the King of Pop for defamation of character. The source of the dispute was the alleged misportrayal of Murray's dismissal from service in the American concert film documenting "This Is It"
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This is It by Ed & Chris OakleyThe source of the dispute was the portrayal of Murray's dismissal from service in the American concert film documenting "This Is It". Fatefully, Jackson had turned his face against the use of performance enhancing drugs, a deadly temptation that might have enabled the fifty-year old performer to regain the genius of his earlier years. The film comprises of Jackson mentoring his team for the 50 shows, as well as him creating, developing, and ultimately staging the high-tech performances. The footage was filmed at The Forum and the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Hitler, funded by his Jewish grandfather's family had passed the entrance exam in Vienna? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1907, on this day the Academy for Art in Vienna passed the entrace examination of Adolf Schicklegruber, later to emerge as one of the leading watercolour painters of the early to mid twentieth century.

Portrait of the remarkable career of a Jewish bastard's sonHe was a bastard's son from Braunua-am-Inn in the Innviertel region of Upper Austria. His grandmother Maria Anna Schickelgruber conceived his father Alois out of wedlock with her Jewish employer, a tobacco merchant called Frankenburger whom she served as a cook and maid1. Discrete funding from his paternal grandfather's family2 permitted Schicklegruber to pursue the study of fine arts in the Austrian capital.

The debt would be repaid. During the late nineteen-forties, Prime Minister David Green3 commissioned a set of watercolours to commemorate the creation of the State of Israel. Today, these priceless items hang in the Knesset, a living symbol of the attainment of the summit of human achievement following difficult and inauspicious beginnings.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, a further variant of the Happy Hitler Artist thread originally proposed by Robbie Taylor.
1) and 2) According to Nazi Hans Frank, Hitler's father was the illegitimate child of a cook named Maria Anna Schickelgruber. This cook, the grandmother of Adolf Hitler, was working for a Jewish family named Frankenburger, when she became pregnant. Frankenburger paid Schickelbruber, a paternity allowance from the time of the child's birth up to his fourteenth year.
3) David Green was the pre-Zionist name of David Ben-Gurion and by using this name, we imply that the creation of the State of Israel followed a more classical decolonisation-type exit from the British Empire.


Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-08-24 23:37:28 ~ So does Adolf the painter miss out on WWI army service?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-08-24 23:55:42 ~ Interesting point sir. In the original draft, he died at the battle of Caporetto fighting for Austria-Hungary, but then I considered he wouldnt have had much of a career you see.

Readers Comment Zach Timmons commented on 2009-08-25 03:40:24 ~ Just so long as he sticks to painting landscapes and buildings... And does he end up marrying Geli Raubal?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-08-25 04:55:12 ~ The idea of Happy Hitler Artist is he doesnt need to spend his adult life bullying others to escape from his childhood disempowerment, so I would have thought he would not need to cling to Geli Raubal because I assume this incestuous power relationship was another aspect of his twisted personality that would not exist in this timeline? Or am I being too Freudian and also completely wrong?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-08-25 06:08:06 ~ Without Hitler, would the Jewish state have come into existence? Even without the Nazis, Jews had it bad in a lot of places in the 30s, but the place they had it worst, the USSR, was not keen on emigration.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-08-25 12:36:57 ~ Good insight Eric. Even more intriguingly, in Stephen King's Insomnia, he says the world wouldnt still exist without Hitler suggesting in some way his actions indirectly prevented a nuclear war.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2009-08-25 14:25:10 ~ Probably not. Things had to get Real Bad for Zionism to get off the ground as a mainstream movement.

Facebook Comment Comment from Ben Camo on Facebook: The Rothschild bankers would have gotten someone else to be the figurehead for the Third Reich who would have also gotten built up and taken down, just like Hitler.

Facebook Comment Comment from Michael DaMota on Facebook: Communism would have ruled all Europe.

Facebook Comment Comment from Sharon Anderson on Facebook: Right. Just look at Van Gogh -it is a nice thought. Wish it had happened...

Facebook Comment Comment from Melissa Pretorius on Facebook: you can not stop crazy

Facebook Comment Comment from Arlena Arteaga Kelly on Facebook: LMAO- he would of have been a forerunner of the DADA art scene, first in line to the Cabaret Voltaire......

Facebook Comment Comment from Candacey Doris on Facebook: That would have been some art. If he managed it the insanity would rival picasso.

Facebook Comment Comment from Jason Palencia on Facebook: Would he still have to enlist? Despite, being chased by the government to take a physical WHICH he didn't pass due to his height. Well, maybe a personal success would've prevented his breakdown and complete madness. He probably would've helped in Germany's reconstruction after the war.
(Rambling. What's strange, and a little ironic, he was wasn't skilled at depicting people, only architecture. A world without people.

Facebook Comment Comment from Tracy Milai on Facebook: That is an interesting question; maybe if his art was appreciated he wouldn't have gone down the path he did. What little I've seen of it didn't strike me as anything great, but I'm not an art expert.

Facebook Comment Comment from Scott Palter on Facebook: Presumes the formative event in Adolph's life was his rejection by the art academy instead of his being in the Munich demimonde dodging the draft and enlisting in the Bavarian forces at the outbreak of WW1.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the House was Divided after the 1860 Crisis? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1860, having concluded that it was too late to save the Union peacefully, Abraham Lincoln unwisely chose to reply frankly to a request for a statement of his views from the editor of the Louisville Journal, George D. Prentice who contended that such a statement would "assure all the good citizens of the South and ... take from the disunionists every excuse or pretext for treason".

A House DividedIt would not be the first time that he had said too much and inflamed southern secessionists. For in his "House Divided Speech" he had stated unambigously that the Union was in the grip of a slaveholder's plot. His partner in his Springfield Law Firm, William Herndon had it right when he said "It is true, but is it wise or politic to say so?".

Lincoln was to learn that it was one thing to make an explosively controversial statement as an outside senatorial candidate, quite another when heading inexorably towards the White House. And yet with John Brown striking slaveholdings seemingly with impunity, and leading free African-Americans over the border into Canada, dodging Prentice's question might appear a fatal weakness in national leadership. "It seemed as if he suddently bore the whole world upon his shoulders, and could not shake it off" - William HerndonAnd after all, it was that frightful absence of national leadership that had inspired Lincoln to seek the highest office as he had told Herndon just two short years before.

That America might really be in the throes of a slaveholder's plot was in all reality, improbable. Yet whilst slavery had been terminated in the north for three decades, events surely appeared to show that some time very soon that might not be the case. It would be hard to interpret the drift of events otherwise since Kansas-Nebraska Act (1854) and the Dred Scott ruling (1858) which confirmed that the General Government had no right to interfer in the state's rights to legalise slavery.

Very soon Lincoln would discover that his unwise choice of words had triggered a general secession prior to his inauguration And worse his judgement as to whether Northerners would fight for the Union, or rather bid the Southern States good riddance, would prove to be faulty. For the time being at least, the Union would be split into two nations, one free, one slave, precisely as Lincoln had warned.

Of course Herndon knew something that few others outside his inside circule knew in the late fall of 1860; the drive behind Lincoln's ambition was his deeply flawed character. Because Abraham Lincoln was a life-long manic depressive now gripped by a mid-life crisis, ingesting more than nine thousand times the recommended daily dose of mercury. "Gloom and sadness were his predominant state" concluded Herndon. On the day of his election Herndon remarked that "It seemed as if he suddently bore the whole world upon his shoulders, and could not shake it off". And so, Abraham Lincoln would lead a truly unqiue Presidency; for he was the first man to suicide in the White House, by shooting himself in the head whilst sitting in apparent peace, as if calmy watching the Theatre, perhaps.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-10-17 09:35:15 ~ If he was eating that much mercury, I'd think that in the event of his death, embalming would be superfluous. That said..._how_ is John Brown doing all this stuff? There's hundreds of miles between the slave states and Canada, and if he was openly in rebellion, he'd lose a lot of sympathizers...a lot of the UGRR types were pacifists and did not approve of violence.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-10-17 18:19:45 ~ Bad analogy. Lincoln's 1858 Senate Race is a maze of contradicitions if one doesn't understand Midwestern politics of the late 1850's. House divided as a wink and a nod at the more extreme Abolitionist and Free Soil components of the Illinois Republican Party before Lincoln ran in the opposite direction against Douglas to get downstate Dixiecrat votes.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-11-17 12:53:30 ~ (1) The Dred Scott ruling (Scott v. Sandford) was handed down in 1857, not 1858. It argued not so much that the federal government could not intervene in slavery (indeed, it endorsed federal intervention to ASSIST slaveowners in reclaiming escaped human "property") as that blacks were never intended to be U.S. citizens or to have any constitutional protections. (2) There is no question that a "slaveholder's plot" was in operation in 1860, aimed at forcing the election of a pro-slavery president whatever the outcome of the national vote. When it failed, Southerns reached for their guns. But: (3) Far from being eager for a fight with the South, Lincoln dithered about ordering armed action--almost too long. He came to office in 1861 hoping a peaceful resolution to the crisis could be reached. Southern intransigence made that impossible.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-11-17 16:21:51 ~ One life to save 600,000 from the Civil War?


On this day in 1973, Roger Staubach recovered from his overtime loss the previous to earn the first Monday night victory of his career as Dallas topped the Washington Redskins 38-31 for their third win of the 1973 NFL season.

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In 1960, the Empire State Building officially reopened for business; for many New Yorkers, this was the surest sign yet that their city was recovering from the Jamaica Bay hurricane.

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On this day in 2010, President John McCain received word from his intelligence advisors that the CIA had obtained credible evidence suggesting Venezuelan ruler Hugo Chavez was making plans to invade Guyana before the end of the year.

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Hugo Chavez

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On this day in 1944, the last German troops in Holland were evacuated to Denmark. That same day, Allied troops in Germany captured the city of Essen.                                  

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In 1962, as anti-integration riots continue throughout much of the South, James Meredith is shot from ambush on his way to classes at the University of Mississippi.

He is not seriously injured, but after the shooting he is taken into protective custody by federal marshals.

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In 1979, President Nelson Rockefeller, in a telephone conversation with the exiled Iranian Shah Pahlevi, offers to send top medical experts to Mexico to assist in treating him for his recently diagnosed malignant lymphoma in a hospital there. The Shah, however, is adamant, insisting that he believes he will die unless he is treated in a U.S. hospital and claiming that America 'owes' him as a longtime ally. Rockefeller does not care for the Shah's tone, which seems more that of a superior to a subordinate than that a supplicant. Nevertheless, the Shah's appeal to American political obligations strikes a chord with him.

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In 2007, Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti spoke of his release by US Captors in the Prince Harry prison exchange. He agreed with Harry's remark 'The only Emperor is Emperor of Ice Cream'. Now it was time for 'the roller of big cigars' to make a statement of humility. Only then could Anglo-Arab Relations move forward.

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In 1970, American author Kurt Vonnegut is awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature. His writings criticizing the communist government of the Soviet States of America have been a hit world-wide, although suppressed at home.

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In 1944, President Wendell Wilkie died in office. Since he hadn't appointed a vice-president to serve at his side after the death of Vice-President Charles McNary in February, Speaker of the House Sam Rayburn assumed the presidency, the first Speaker ever elevated top the office through the line of succession. Wilkie led the list of war dead in the next day's paper with the simple notation, 'Wilkie, Wendell; Commander-In Chief.'

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In 1929, at Camp Rapidan President Herbert Hoover made a take it or leave it offer to British Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald. The U.S. would cancel Britain's war debt in exchange for Trinidad, Bermuda, and British Honduras. Hoover only wanted Belize in order to split it up between Guatemala and Mexico, and nobody expected London to part with Bermuda. With London mired in Financial Crisis the British were desperate, and in Labour politician MacDonald there was little passion for Imperialism in the chief negotiator. As a result of these unique factors, the British readily agreed to this land for cash offer.

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In 1822, weather-control technology that the Mlosh have adapted to earth prevents a volcanic eruption at Galunggung in Indonesia. The achievement makes Mlosh welcome everywhere in the world that has dangerous weather.

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In 1604, astronomer Jan Brunowski discovered the supernova named after him while working as an assistant to Johannes Kepler. Brunowski's Star is one of the few supernovae known to exist in the Milky Way Galaxy. The fame Brunowski garnered from his discovery drove a wedge between him and his old master for the rest of their lives, and the younger man's achievements continued to overshadow Kepler's.

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In 1941, on this day Jesse Louis Burns was born in Greenville, South Carolina to Helen Burns. Helen Burns was a single mother, aged 16, when he was born. His biological father, Noah Louis Robinson, a former professional boxer and a prominent figure in the black community, was married to another woman when Jesse was born. He was not involved in his son's life. In 1943, two years after Jesse's birth, his mother married Charles Henry Jackson who would adopt Jesse 14 years later. Jesse went on to take the surname of his step-father.

A stellar career in the civil rights movements followed until 1968. Jackson falsely claimed Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr. Had died in his arms of on a hotel balcony in Memphis. In fact Jackson had been speaking with musicians in the parking lot at the time of the shooting, then had hidden behind the swimming pool for twenty minutes. He appeared only when the press arrived.

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In 1941, Ken Saro-Wiwa was born in Bori, in the Niger Delta. He spent his childhood in a polygamous household of Anglican faith and eventually proved himself an excellent student, netting him a scholarship to study English at Government College Umuahia. He would complete his studies at the University of Ibadan and briefly became a teaching assistant at the University of Lagos. Employed as a by the multinational Shell Oil company, Saro-Wiwa spent thirty years as a press officer in which he was engaged in denying environmental damage to the Niger Delta. In 1995, he was re-united with his father Chief Jim Saro-wiwa, after a religious awakening, causing him to write the controversional biopic 'On a darkling plain'.

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In 1973, following the heavy defeats of the first two days of the Yom Kippur War, Minister of Defence Moshe Dayan announced 'the downfall of the 'Third Temple' at a news conference. He also began to speak openly of using weapons of mass destruction against the Arabs

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the largely forgotten founding father George Mason had played a more visible role in American history? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1792, on this day a Founding Father of the Republic of Virginia George Mason IV died at his home in Gunston Hall in Fairfax County, VA. He was sixty-six years old.

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At the Williamsburg Convention he drafted the Colonies' very first declaration of rights and state constitution. First Pennsylvania, then Maryland, then Delaware, then North Carolina and others took most or all of the Declaration of Rights and either made them amendments to their own constitutions or incorporated them directly into their constitutions. Thomas Jefferson paraphrased his ideas into the Declaration of Independence, and although Mason did not receive full credit for his contribution, the entire Continental Congress knew of the conceptual source of Jefferson's ideas.

"a man of the first order of wisdom" ~ Jefferson on MasonAs a result of his high profile he was was appointed to represent Virginia as a delegate to a Federal Convention, to meet in Philadelphia for the purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation.

He refused to sign the Constitution, however, and returned to his native state as an outspoken opponent in the ratification contest. Ironically, one objection to the proposed Constitution was that it lacked a "declaration of rights".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Lenin had died five years earlier? muses Scott Palter. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1918, the Fall of the German Empire carried with it the implosion of the shell of Czarist Russia.

Twilight in RusslandThis required refusing Western demands for further offensives. Brusilov was managing to keep the Imperial Russian army in the field but one more good killing even in a successful offensive would have shattered it. Kerensky and Brusilov were blunt to their Western counterparts. There were two and ONLY two choices. One was keeping a large Austro-German army tied down on an Eastern Front while the West won the war themselves. This would require Western aid to be continued and increased via the White Sea, Vladivostok and Persia. The other was one more attack. Regardless of the result the shaky Russian state would implode. Germany would free up 100 divisions of Austro-German troops for transfer to the West while enabling the Central Powers to feed themselves on the Ukrainian and south Russian harvests. The Western powers fumed, pleaded and raged but in the end accepted the less bad choice.

Kerensky lived up to his part of the bargain. The Eastern Front stayed in being until the German capitulation in 1918. However the Russian implosion had continued parallel to the war. A left rising in Petrograd in November of 1917 took that city out of the war and left the imperial family as prisoners of a shifting coalition of agitators who would gain temporary ascendancy in the Petrograd Soviet. Kerensky and the core of his government were lucky to escape to Moscow with their lives. Brusilov died three days before the Armistice with Germany trying to put down yet another in an endless series of army mutinies.

A new article by Scott PalterNews of the end of the war and the beginnings of the German withdrawal in November saw every ethnic and regional group in the Russian Empire attempt secession. The Petrograd Soviet added to the chaos by hanging the Imperial family. When the smoke cleared the following spring Kerensky was reduced to ruling a region roughly with the boundaries of early modern Muscovy. The royalists split into two camps. The higher nobility grouped themselves around Grand Duke Nicholas, who claimed the throne despite an inferior actual claim. Based out of Mukden and Vladivostok, this regime was cut off from European Russia by a maze of warlord states in Siberia and Central Asia.

The younger royalists and nationalists emerged from the chaos of south Russia grouped into a Cossack and junior officer Volunteer Army under Baron Ungern-Sternberg (pictured). The self-proclaimed Field Marshal and Atman, had assembled this force in a welter of brief campaigns over the previous winter of 1918-1919. He was helped in this by most senior officers choosing to either stay with Kerensky or migrating to serve with Grand Duke Nicholas. He also had seized custody of the Grand Duchess Olga Alexandrova, giving him the legitimate heir to the throne as a figurehead. By a series of deals with the retreating Germans in western Ukraine he had traded their safe passage for their arms dumps. By dint of location in Ukraine, south Russia, Kuban and the north Caucasus, he was the only of the many competing regimes to have a food surplus. While millions starved he could feed his troops. Now with the end of the spring mud season he began his march north to place his puppet monarch on the throne in the twin capitals of Moscow and Petrograd.
This article is a continuation of the Russland timeline.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this article we continue to explore an original idea by Bryan Caplan on the Library of Economics and Liberty.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-10-07 16:22:02 ~ I can predict right now things are going to get VERY nasty VERY fast in this timeline.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2011-10-07 19:10:43 ~ A Sternberg-led Russia will be lucky to merely tear itself apart. The man was honestly insane by all accounts.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-10-07 19:31:42 ~ Russia had Salic law...Olga couldn't have been a reigning Tsarina. That was put in place by Catherine the Great's son, who had hated his mother. If Alexis is out of the picture, the next legal heir would be Grand Duke Michael, who actually would make a pretty good puppet ruler.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-10-07 19:36:24 ~ Whoever comes out on top, sounds like they're going to have stitch the empire back together. Wars upon wars, changing the whole scope of what might've been a Cold War world.

Readers Comment Timothy McFadden commented on 2011-10-07 21:41:59 ~ I'm wondering where Von Wrangel is in all of this mess? Probably the best field commander of any of the factions, I've always thought it was one of the great tragedies that he stayed in the background until the issue was pretty much decided.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, As the Army of Northern Virginia began its hasty withdrawal, with the Army of the Potomac hot on its heals, the Confederate marching order was reasonably well organised. In front Stuart's cavalry advanced, scouting ahead, ensuring that the road was clear. Next came Magruder's small command, effectively a new separate corps comprised of hastily assembled troops numbering no more than 10 000, which had only just come together a few weeks before. It was a testament to the Army of Northern Virginia's organisational skills, not to mention Magruder's somewhat overlooked abilities as a general, that he had managed to, not only organise this small corps in a matter of weeks, but that it was marching in a somewhat organised fashion under such dramatic conditions.

When the Army of Northern Virginia came upon Hagerstown, Magruder suggested to Lee that they make a stand, but Longstreet was immediately against it. Jackson was not too keen on the idea either, although thought having Antietam Creek as a natural barrier, between them and the pursing Army of the Potomac, could be used with great advantage. Lee, though, agreed with Longstreet. He believed that they would have to keep marching westward, and then make a stand, where his concern about his flanks were satisfied.

It was a very prudent decision by Lee as McClellan's force grew in strength by the hour. The biggest addition would be that of the majority of the Harper's Ferry garrison including its commander General George Thomas. Redesignated as US V Corps, the extra 15 000 troops ensured that McClellan outnumbered Lee's 45 000 troops by two to one. Although Lee was not aware of the exact figure, he knew well enough that McClellan had a major advantage in numbers. Consequently the battlefield, which Lee was to choose, had to be able to counter this clear advantage. Yet this did not happen until the Army of Northern Virginia came upon the township of Hancock.

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In 1862, although Hancock, in early October, was not a major town in any fashion, it did nevertheless have railroads, the Potomac, the Cheasapeake-Ohio Canal, not to mention several roads, all either going through or around it (as pictured in map).

The Battle of Hancock - Day One by David Atwell It was also well located, geographically speaking, so that the Army of Northern Virginia could enter the relative safety of the Shenandoah Valley from the north, thus keeping any pursuer honest in their attempts to attack the rear of Lee's army. But the most important aspect was the local terrain. Although the ridge line, which the town was located on, was an impressive looking location to deploy an army, the ridge line to the west of Hancock was even better.

As a consequence, even though Lee first thought about establishing his line on the town of Hancock itself, he selected the better ground to the west of the town. Thus Lee established his initial position on Blue Hill. Here Longstreet's corps made its line southward down to the banks of the Potomac River and then northward to Kirk Woods through until Longstreet finally anchored his right on Little Tonoloway Creek. Immediately north of this location (in other words across the creek) Jackson started his line. This continued north towards Wardfordsburg where Magruder's Corps took over the line until where it ended at Big Tonoloway Creek. Across Big Tonoloway Creek, Stuart's cavalry was deployed to cover the open flank, even though it was well protected thanks to Big Tonoloway Creek.A Chapter from Hancock 1862

Some four hours later, at around 4pm, the Army of the Potomac arrived by way of Pleasonton's cavalry corps. McClellan was immediately informed of the situation and made his plans accordingly. Assuming Lee was now prepared to offer battle, McClellan returned to his slow methodical ways, but in this instance he was right to proceed cautiously as any rash attack would have been met with disaster. Consequentially, over the remaining hours before nightfall, McClellan established the beginning of his battleline where Little Tonoloway Creek enters the Potomac River. It then parallelled Longstreet's line to the east of Kirk Woods. The Union line then headed north, again parallel to Lee's line, and finally ended east of Wardfordsburg at Big Tonoloway Creek. Finally Pleasonton's Cavalry probed further north and, by dusk, had made contact with their Confederate counterparts. Like Lee, McClellan based most of his line on a hill line, although Lee's position enjoyed the advantage of the higher ridge.

Both sides then awaited the dawn, knowing that the battle which could decide the outcome of the War, was about to begin.

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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-14 05:21:53 ~ So you're having a Gettysburg a year early?

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-01-14 16:21:56 ~ Great detail. Think you could get a hold of some maps to edit to show battle formations? Map added sir thanks to David

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2011-01-15 00:19:57 ~ Actually Hancock takes place, in this timeline, instead of Antietam. Gettysburg still occurs albeit slightly differently as there is a fourth day of major fighting.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2011-01-15 00:22:27 ~ Please note that the map is a draft version I did wherein there are different CSA corps commanders which differs from the commanders in the final article... but the battlelines are one & the same

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-01-15 01:42:44 ~ The map works very well illustrating the positions and outlining the hills. Nice!

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-01-17 21:22:47 ~ The text needs some editing.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Egyptian advance on Yom Kippur had been unstoppable by conventional means? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1973, there seemed to be little choice for Israel than to exercise the nuclear option. The military situation was dire, especially on the Egyptian front. A large hole had been successfully made in the Israeli centre on the Sinai front.

The Specials by David AtwellTwo Egyptian spearheads, numbering at least two divisions each, had, not only reached the all important passes, but had crossed them & were heading towards Israel proper. The Israeli Defence Minister, Moshe Dayan, was in shock when told of the news, by his staff, at midday on 7 October. He, in turned, told Israel's Prime Minister Golda Meir, of the situation, & concluded that "It is the fall of the Third Temple" as he was in much despair.

Israel, though, was mobilising as much of its military reserve as possible. But with its defeat at the Sinai passes, Israel was running out of time. At the speed with which the Egyptians were moving, the Israeli homeland would be invaded within 24 hours. There was little time left. Furthermore, now that Egypt had room to move, it had spread its front line out thus making it more or less impossible to establish a "road-block" defence, as the Egyptians could merely drive around it & leave the defenders to be dealt with later.

The only hope seemed to lie with the Israeli Air Force, but it had taken a sever beating when it tried to intervene at the Suez Canal two days earlier. Having said that, whatever the Israeli's could fly was in the air & hitting the Egyptians as they were approaching Israel itself. All the same, the Egyptians had mobile anti-aircraft missile carriers & these kept a watchful eye on the skies. And just as importantly for the Egyptians, their own Air Force patrolled the skies, although they were seldom a match for Israeli pilots.

Even so, it still came down to time. And Israel's time was clearly running out. A decision had to be made as to what to do. As far as Dayan was concerned, if Israel did not act decisively now, all would be lost. Meir was of the same mind, although Elazar voiced his objections, but it was a government decision & not a military one. Thus Meir issued the orders to get the "Specials" ready. The Israeli Air Force was given the most important orders that it had ever carried out.

A Chapter from Hell on EarthThree hours later, four Israeli Skyhawk A-4H fighter/bomber aircraft took off from an air force base outside of Jerusalem. Their mission was a simple one, although the consequences of its success was without equal. On board each aircraft was a crude nuclear weapon, four of only 13 such weapons made for use by an aircraft. These had been built, only recently, by the Israeli defence department for use in an emergency such as this. Now they were on the way to stop the Egyptian army from invading southern Israel.

It only took a short period of time for the Israeli Skyhawks to reach their destination, but to the likes of Meir, Dayan & Elazar, it was probably the longest 30 minutes of their lives. Seconds seemed like hours, whilst minutes seemed like days. The Skyhawks went unmolested by the Egyptians, until they reached the front. Coming in low, though, gave the pilots numerous advantages, but once they entered their sudden climb it was a different story. But the pilots had to reach a high altitude, flying almost straight up, in order to "sling-shot" the nuclear weapon up & away from their aircraft if they wanted to survive.

The Egyptians never knew what hit them, nor did they understand what the four Israeli Skyhawks were attempting. It seemed to be merely an attempt to avoid being hit by missiles or some such. Each Skyhawk, however, was able to release its weapon as planed & then took off at great speed away from the battle zone. As they flew away, each nuclear weapon continued in its upward flight until gravity finally brought it back to Earth. Within two minutes the job was done. Four Egyptian divisions no longer existed. The invasion threat to Israel had vanished in four mushroom shaped clouds.
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Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2010-11-28 14:49:12 ~ Battlefield use of nukes _might_ scare both Cairo and Damascus into standing down here....

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-11-28 15:42:55 ~ . . . and then, before the mushroom clouds had dissipated, both Egypt and Syria would have launched crash nuclear weapons programs of their own. The result, in a decade or so, would have been a nuclearized Middle East, as other nations in the regin also raced to join the party. And you could kiss off the Camp David accords, too; no Egyptian leader could survive trying to negotiate peace with Israel after the Jewish state had used nuclear weapons against its people, even on the battlefield.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-11-28 18:08:07 ~ My personal guess is Moscow nukes Tel Aviv.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-11-28 20:12:02 ~ @ Eric - there's not much use launching a crash nuclear weapons program when your country quite possibily no longer exists. But you need to read the rest of the story, via the link provided, to see the entire scenario. Plus, when your country is about to be overrun, I don't think the Israelis could care less about any Camp David accord. It's either survival or death. The choice is that simply. @ Scott - yes that is quite possible unless Israel's number ally, the USA, steps in as takes place in the rest of the story which can be read via the link provided.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-11-28 22:26:43 ~ I concur with Mr. Palter. Even if it weren't directly involved, this international precedent for nukes would open up a whole new Pandora's box. In reality, we've only used nukes in war twice, and so far everybody's just been standing watching each other. If Israel can do it, why not North Korea? Or India/Pakistan when that comes around?

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-10-07 00:50:36 ~ Oh, crap. The biggest wonder I have is, do the Egyptians sue for peace, or do the Israeli's use this to regain their momentum, and drive the Egyptians out of the Sinai again.?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the author Edgar Allen Poe had remarried? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the October 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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By 1849, the life of Edgar Allan Poe had been as bleak as many of his poems. His father had abandoned the family shortly after his birth, and his mother died of tuberculosis the next year. He was taken in by the Allan family, wealthy Scotch merchants in Virginia.

Poe RemarriesWhile the Allans never formally adopted him, Poe was given the middle name of Allan in recognition of his foster parents. He had a youth of mixed fortune: traveling with the family and being well educated, but being alternately spoiled and brutally disciplined by his foster father. Poe would attend the University of Virginia for one year before dropping out, claiming that his foster father had not given him enough of an allowance to pay for classes, texts, and dormitory.

A new story by Jeff ProvineHis first disappointment in love would follow as he learned his sweetheart, Sarah Royster, had married another man. Poe would leave Richmond for Boston, stumbling semi-aimlessly with various writing jobs and unrecognized publications as well as enlisting in the army under an alias while lying about his age. He did well in the artillery but sought to leave early, which his commander would only allow if he reconciled with the Allans. John Allan refused to write back, and Poe finally visited in person, one day after his foster mother's death. Poe later attended West Point while his foster father remarried, which began a new feud that would finally have Poe disowned. Depression struck him, and he purposefully sought court-martial from gross dereliction of duty.

In 1831, while Poe was living with his aunt and also his cousin Virginia, his brother died. He turned more seriously to his writing as well as getting work at newspapers (though he would be fired for drunkenness or lack of productive work). In 1835, he secretly married his 13-year-old Virginia (she lying about her age on the certificate as 21), and the family life won him back his job at the Southern Literary Messenger. They married publicly the next year.

Life seemed to pick up for Poe. He was more stable than he had ever been, and his writing was gaining recognition and making money. It came to an end, however, as Virginia began showing signs of tuberculosis in 1842. The stress of his wife's illness drove Poe back to drink, and he became increasingly belligerent. The Broadway Journal failed under his editorship in 1846, and Virginia died in 1847. Poe was devastated.

In spite of tortured mourning, Poe tried to move on, soon courting poetess Sarah Helen Whitman. They had met in writing before life, Whitman writing a poem "To Edgar Allan Poe" for a Valentine's Day party he did not attend, and Poe writing in return. The courtship was a mess from Poe's erraticism, alcoholism, and Whitman's mother's attempts at sabotage. Despite the odds, they set a wedding date of December 25, 1848. Rumors that Poe had broken his vow of sobriety along with Poe's "outrages" drove them apart. It seemed another melancholic relationship for the Virginia poet.

That spring, Poe returned, signifying his devotion by smashing a whiskey bottle. In spite of her mother's pleas, Whitman took him back, though she would watch his habits closely over the rest of their lives. They were wed in 1849, and Poe's writing returned as he began the "happy half of [his] life". His "Raven" had gained sudden recognition, and Poe finally felt vindicated in his craft. Novels, short stories, and poems surged from his pen. Whitman was a successful poet in her own right, and the two lived very comfortably. As he aged, Poe took up a professorship at the University of Virginia, teaching writing and making great strides in cryptography and logic as well as his famous satirical commentaries on cosmology and physics.

Poe stands as perhaps the greatest American author of the nineteenth century, creating several genres such as detective stories, science fiction, modern heroism, and spirit fiction all the while perfecting the Gothic horror. His advances in the theories of cryptography helped establish America as the foremost world power in code-cracking and ancient linguistics.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Poe did not return to Whitman. He went back to Richmond and a haphazard pursuit of his old love Sarah Royster, but his life would continue in a downward spiral. On October 3, he would be found collapsed in the street suffering from "congestion of the brain," theorized to be rabies, cholera, heart disease, meningitis, syphilis, epilepsy, or simple alcohol poisoning. He would die on October 7, giving what many said were his last words, "Lord help my poor soul".


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-10-09 16:19:10 ~ This would have changed everything as far as American literature is concerned.

Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2010-10-09 17:48:05 ~ If only.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-10-09 19:52:11 ~ This would have been incredible. There was a story in one of the Writers of the Future anthologies that had Poe surviving, and going on to become a CS general in the Civil War, leading a regiment called "The Ravens" after his poem.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-10-07 16:19:00 ~ I have also read that he was addicted to opium...although he could have been hooked on drugs and drink at the same time.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Linda McMahon was called before a witchcraft trial? muses Eric Lipps.

"Are you now, or have you ever been, a practitioner of witchcraft or any other occult art, or a member of any group or organization associated with the practice of such arts?" - standard question asked of witnesses before the House Un-American Activities Committee.

This story was published in the October 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2010, Connecticut senatorial candidate Linda McMahon was called before the House Committee on Un-American Activities to answer charges that she had participated in proscribed rites of witchcraft.

Linda McMahon on TrialHer confession under "intensive interrogation" by means of waterboarding, a refinement of the Colonial-era technique of dunking, conducted before TV cameras for a national network audience, destroyed her political hopes and resulted in federal confiscation of her financial assets and the collapse of her show-business empire, World Wrestling Entertainment, many of whose garishly-outfitted performers would themselves be called before the Committee.

Ms. McMahon, of course, would not see any of that. Immediately following her broadcast confession, she was taken out and-still before the cameras-burned at the stake.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in the spirit of the upcoming holiday, I couldn't resist. . . .


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-10-08 02:24:16 ~ Not bad, but once they start looking for witches, who'd be left in Washington?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-10-08 02:28:11 ~ Lest anyone take this as a political cheap shot, let me hasten tyo say this post was written (mostly) tongue in cheek. rthe revealtion that Ms. McMahon has admitted to having dabbled in witchcraft in her youth suggested an entry for the Halloween season.

Facebook Comment Comment from Patricia Williams-King on Facebook: I don't know where you've been for the last 50 years or more, but it's no longer illegal to be a Witch.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-10-08 17:17:32 ~ Great comparison of dunking and water-boarding.

Readers Comment Bruce Johnson commented on 2010-10-12 00:40:11 ~ I suppose it takes a bit away from the fun silliness to point out that no one convicted of witchcraft in colonial America was ever burned at the stake (the method of execution was hanging), that tests such as "dunking" were also disallowed, and that those who confessed were the ones NOT executed. (At least you didn't voice the usual mistake about dunking and simply tossing folks in water - that the innocent were usually allowed to drown, when in fact, they were fished out if in distress.. and, as I understand it, this was NORMALLY the case, because the way they were tied up and weighted the ordinary person would NOT have been able to swim, so it would take something very unusual for them to not start to sink. Hmm.. wonder if Arthur Miller would enjoy this twist? (Then again, I'm not sure I care, since his play to critique the McCarthy hearings has done such a wonderful job of MIS-informing generations of high school students about what actually went on at Salem. Well, at least it pushed me to check out some decent scholarly studies of the events rather than simply buy into the common myths.) I DO rather like that in this case, for a change, you apparently have the DEMOCRATS doing the 'witch-hunting'!




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the tragic death of Chris Hani had stalled the all party peace process in South Africa? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1994, and just two days after becoming the President-elect of the Boerestaat, Constand Laubscher Viljoen (pictured) received an earth-shattering intelligence report that forced the General to reconsider the very lifelong convictions that had led inexorably to his new political appointment as the Head of State for the new "Israel for the Afrikaner".

No WinnersViljeon had joined the South African Defence Force in 1955. Appointed as the senior officer in the campaign in Angola in 1975-1976, his prestige had risen as the hands-on organizer of the swashbuckling airborne assault by South African forces at the controversial Battle of Cassinga. Revered as a white hero, he was promoted to Overall Commander, South African Defence Forces three years later, a position he served in until 1985. This military leadership position in the so-called "Border War" put Viljeon squarely on the frontline as a sworn defender of the Separate Amenities Act, the Group Areas act and the Population Registration, the key pieces of legislation that held the apartheid regime together. By the early 1990s however, Vijeon had retired to his farm and it was his twin brother, Braam that was politically active. The two brothers had not spoken in years.

In contrast, a career failure as a man of the church, Braam was politically aligned to the African National Congress, rightly viewing the apartheid laws as an abomination. He too was on the front-line. So much so, that Constand had sent him dire warnings to quit the Committees of the South African Council of Churches if he "knew what was good for him", because the security forces considered the Council to be a front for ANC terrorism.

"Go rest in peace. Go rest in the shadow of a tree at your home".By the time of Mandela's release from prison, Constand had decided to abandon the farm and join the right-wing political process. Viljoen had a force of between 50,000 and 60,000 trained military personnel at his command, with the ability to take over large parts of the country. Soon realising that the agreements with de Klerk constituted a de facto government of national unity, right-wing forces murdered South African Communist Party chairman Chris Hani to derail the peace process. And at the funeral, youthful ANC supporters shouting "Kill the Boer! Kill the Farmer". Mandela fatally chose to let this reaction go, and was assassinated in the escalation of violence at the funeral.

As President-elect, Constand was privy to the intelligence reports the Polish far-right immigrant named Janusz Walus who had murdered Chris Hani. And whilst studying those very reports, Constand discovered to his horror, that his own people were also behind the 1987 murder of his brother Braam. Addressing the Afrkaner nation on the occassion of Mandela's funeral, Viljeon paid an amazing tribute in Xhosa: "Go rest in peace. Go rest in the shadow of a tree at your home".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Vilgeon actually paid this tribute to Mandela upon the termination of his Presidency.






Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the comedy element of Zombieland had been removed from the artistic concept? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2009, on this day the super-violent American zombie horror movie For Whom the Bell Tolls premiered in cinemas across the United Kingdom. Starring Woody Harrelson in his most gory role since "Natural Born Killers" the movie shares its name with the signature soundtrack from Metallica.
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From Whom the Bell TollsIn a key scene, the zombie killers stay in lead singer (pictured) James Hetfield's Californian mansion and they club the living dead to death with one of his electric guitars.

To say that the actors got into character would be an understatement, big time. Because on his return from the film-shoot, Woody Harrelson assaulted a photographer at La Guardia Airport in New York, claiming that he mistook the cameraman for a zombie. "I wrapped a movie called "From Whom the Bell Tolled," in which I was constantly under assault by zombies, then flew to New York, still very much in character," Harrelson said in a statement issued by his publicist. "With my daughter at the airport I was startled by a paparazzo, who I quite understandably mistook for a zombie," he said.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Plot Summary from Douglas Young of the Movie Guy: The entire world is hit with an apocalyptic infection that turns people into zombies once they have been bitten by an infected zombie. Columbus (Jesse Eisenberg) is a young geek who has a lot of phobias about almost everything from clowns, to bathrooms, to checking the back seat of cars. Being alone and scared of the outside world has kept him alive. His new fear is being eaten by zombies. To survive, Columbus has begun making a long list of rules to survive. Each time he gives you one of his rules, you see an example of his rule in action. Columbus explains to the audience in a background voice such as wearing your seat-belt, or the double-tap rule after you shoot a zombie make sure he is dead by shooting him in the head again. Trust me; this is not a wasted shot. The number 1 rule is to be sure that you can outrun the zombies, because the overweight and slow people were caught first by the zombies. He decides to go home to Columbus to see if his parents are still alive. Along the highway, he meets Tallahassee (Woody Harrelson) a redneck zombie killer who loves Twinkies and misses his puppy Buck. They team up and head for Tallahassee. On the way they meet and join forces with two girls, Wichita (Emma Stone) and Little Rock (Abagail Breslin). They may be the last surviving people on earth, and they must rely on each other to survive.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-10-10 19:58:55 ~ Haven't seen the movie, can't really comment. I do notice that you refer to both vampires and zombies---aren't they very different classes of undead? Fixed. Thanks - Ed.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-10-10 23:27:55 ~ Technically, only vampires are considered "undead." Zombies are "the living dead." What's the difference? As I understand it, vampires come back fully conscious and are generally (at least in modern lore; some older legends say differently) fully human-looking and preserved, as long as they get a steady supply of blood. By contrast, zombies rise in a rotting condition which is only imperfectly held at bay by their own gross feeding habits (suggesting that unlike vampires, zombies wouldn't be able to stay active for centuries) and typically are, well, "zombie-like" in their mental state. Fixed. Thanks-Ed.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-10-11 01:14:42 ~ Freaky....




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if an imaginative TV director serialised John Ringo's wickedly ingenius novel "The Last Centurion"? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2010, the first episode of the American future history fiction television series "The Chronicles of Bandit Six" was aired by the Fox Broadcasting Company. Each episode begins with the gravelly voice of Bandit Six (pictured) solemnly pledging "This Rome Will Not Fall".
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The Chronicles of Bandit SixThe difficulty for would-be directors was that author John Ringo had written "The Last Centurion" in a unique and compelling blog style where the first person narrator makes reference to a documentary which of course the reader can only imagine.

Set in the second decade of the twenty-first century, the world is struck by two catastrophes, a new mini-ice age and, nearly simultaneously, a plague to dwarf all previous experiences. "This Rome will not Fall"Rising out of the disaster is the character known to history as "Bandit Six" an American Army officer caught up in the struggle to rebuild the world and prevent the fall of his homeland - despite the best efforts of politicians both elected and military.

The genius of the 2010 TV series was to reverse the artistic vision, basing the episodes on the imagined "Last Centurions" documentaries as filmed by the SkyNews satellite news network in late 2018/early 2019 and the "New Centurions" news programs as aired on the ABC and FOX television networks in June of 2021.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-10-10 14:15:04 ~ If nothing else, this should get people interested in Ringo's work...

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2011-06-10 01:50:19 ~ It's made me interested in it now

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-06-10 03:53:17 ~ It would make a good series, but no way would it be green-lighted unless the evil politiicans were portrayed as all-Republican. The Hillary expy in particular would get it vetoed in a red-hot minute.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-06-10 12:03:59 ~ Oh, please. No way would it be greenlighted IF theevil politicians were all Republican. Who do you think sits on the boards of U.S. media conglomerates, anyway? More likely, they'd leave party affiliation out of it and imagine the villains as generic totalitarians. (There was just such a show a while back, I seem to recall; it flopped with viewers.)

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-10-07 00:47:44 ~ Wow, I read that book, the Last Centurion. Good action sequences, but it was SOOO political. It kinda got on my nerves, since I thought it would be hard military AH.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what would have happened if Ronald Reagan hadn't been President in 1985 wonders Eric Lipps. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1985, on this day four Palestinian terrorists seize control of the passenger liner MS Achille Lauro off the coast of Egypt. Holding the passengers and crew hostage, they directed the vessel to sail to Tartus, Syria, and demanded the release of 50 Palestinians then in Israeli prisons. After being refused permission to dock at Tartus, the hijackers murdered wheelchair-bound American passenger Leon Klinghoffer and threw his body overboard.

The Achille Lauro Affair by Eric LippsThe incident provides a harsh test of President Gary Hart's administration. The President, fearing he will be charged with "weakness" by conservatives, first advises the Egyptian government against negotiating with the terrorists and then directs that a military response be readied. In consultation with the Israelis, whose successful 1976 raid on terrorists holding hostages at Uganda's Entebbe Airport had been made into a television movie, Hart directs that U.S. Marines storm the ship, which had returned to its port of origin, Alexandria.

The raid is a distinctly mixed success. Three of the four terrorists are killed, and the fourth, Abu Abbas, taken prisoner. However, several hostages are killed, including Marilyn Klinghoffer, wife and now widow of the man murdered earlier by the terrorists. It will be rumored for years that Mrs. Klinghoffer was shot by one of the U.S. troops.

In the aftermath, President Hart will be sharply criticized by liberals, including his immediate predecessor President Edward M. Kennedy, for taking armed action in preference to negotiations. Conservatives will join in, criticizing the Hart Administration for "bungling" the rescue attempt..

Kennedy's criticism will be particularly painful for Hart. The two men had been friends, and Hart had been among the second President Kennedy's strongest supporters in the Senate; EMK's sharp words will feel like a personal betrayal.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what would have happened if Ronald Reagan hadn't been President in 1985 wonders Eric Lipps.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-06-22 18:52:17 ~ I'm not sure Hart would have been up to the job..

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-06-22 19:01:49 ~ Well, for what it's worth, recall that I set it up so that the rescue mission was not a complete success. I actually think Hart might have made a decent president (note the "might"). ecent history suggests that it may not take much to be considered "up to the job," and I suspect that, despite his personal failings, Hart would manage, even if he might never be remembered as one of our greatest leaders. In this thread, however, he still has the Donna Rice affair and as a result is defeated for renomination. (This event belongs to the "No Chappaquiddick" thread, in which, because Ted Kennedy avoids thee accident, he is able to get elected president in 1976 and serves two terms, after which Hart is elected.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-06-22 23:33:44 ~ Interesting, but I don't remember enough about the _Achille Lauro_ to comment intelligently.


On this day in 1941, the German army unleashed a ferocious counterattack against Red Army infantry and armor divisions trying to retake Strogino.                                        

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In 1970, with U.S. troops in combat with North Vietnamese Army units inside North Vietnam, massive demonstrations are held at several U.S. universities. At Columbia University in New York City, the offices of the administration in Hamilton Hall are occupied by protestors who refuse the orders of campus security guards to vacate the premises.

Tensions had been building for some time, since the discovery by student activists of papers in the International Law Library linking the university to a Defense Department think tank called the Institute for Defense Analyses. Several students had been placed on probation for violating a university policy against indoor demonstrations, prompting a short-lived student strike.

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Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-04-04 02:11:11 ~ As one General of the late South Vietnamese governent put it Limited War Limits out Victory. If the US were to invade North Vietnam they would have rolled the place up like the British did the French when they invaded French Quebec in 1759 thus ending the French and Indian War and that would be that. The left would get pretty angry but victory and sudden end to the war would pretty much deflate them since their pet party was the one who got us into it. However let me put this clear, Vietnam was winnable by the US from the beginning as we had all the resources to do it. We could have crushed them hands down flat but we chose not to. That war was lost for a hundred reasons. A strong sense of false morality of trying to inspire others to be good by setting a very foolish example. Failure to execute american soldiers who raped or murdered Vietnamse civilians certainly alienated many as this weakness does to this day with much of asia. Sending Generals who had fought their wars in Europe and North Africa but had little or no experience with the asian mind set or the jungles in which they were expected to prevail . A strong emphasis on weapons and not of soldiers another. Putting more empasis on Feel Good reports like the infamous Body Count just one example. We could have done a lot of things different that would have won us that war. China was still realing from its own youth revolt known to all as the Cultural Revolution. They also had problems with Russia. Russia was busy with its own problems at home.

Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-04-04 15:00:09 ~ One of our biggest mistakes with the Vietnamese is we did not make it clear Americans are not French, we just clean up their messes which start with Two world wars. The French had so exploited them that good relations would not be possible for anyone coming in to clean up the mess. Showering thm with gifts as in Hearts and Minds only was insulting to them since charity violates the Confucian principle that everything must be earned. Anything to them that is given freely without anyting in return is deemed as a Bribe.


In 2001, in a meeting with his closest military and foreign-affairs advisers, President Al Gore discusses the need to "prepare to employ other options" in the event that diplomatic efforts to press the Afghans and the Saudis to aid the U.S. against the Al Qaeda terrorists responsible for the Sept. 11 downing of TWA Flight 93 fail.

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Al Gore

The President explains that the Afghans' walkout from the United Nations following the UN sanctions resolution of Sept. 28, and the Saudis' hostile reaction to American requests for their cooperation against bin Laden, have obliged him to consider the possibility that the United States may have to act alone sand "forcefully". Gore confides to his advisers that the one bright spot in the situation is that the additional attacks the terrorists had planned, which might have killed thousands more and potentially even crippled the U.S. government, were thwarted as a result of the intelligence warnings contained in the Presidential Daily Brief he had received on August 6.

Secretary of State Powell suggests that the President consider assembling a coalition of nations in support of any military action, as President George H. W. Bush did prior to Operation Desert Storm in 1991. He emphasizes that although the United States is more than capable of defeating the Afghan army and any likely Al Qaeda resistance in open battle, enlisting international support will be politically useful, particularly if long-term sanctions or an extended occupation are deemed necessary.

Defense Secretary Webb concurs, and stresses in addition that preparations for possible military action in Afghanistan must be kept from leaking to the media.


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In 1984, in the first of two scheduled debates between the presidential contenders, which focuses on domestic policy, GOP candidate Robert Dole asserts the need to 'rein in the growth of entitlement programs,' which he asserts are 'sapping the initiative of Americans' and which he blames for rising inflation, now at 9 percent annually, and for continuing federal deficits, which have run between $30 billion and $50 billion a year since 1981.

Nominee - Bob Dole
Bob Dole

Departing briefly from the agreed-on restrictions on the debate's scope, Democratic candidate Gary Hart notes that the ongoing Iran-Iraq war has contributed to a substantial rise in the price of oil, which he asserts is the most important factor in the growth of the federal deficit. An angry Dole accuses him of trying to shift the blame for deficits away from a Democratic administration, and demands that moderator Barbara Walters of ABC rebuke Hart for 'breaking the rules of debate we both agreed on in advance.'

Walters admonishes Hart, who avoids references to foreign affairs for the remainder of the debate. However, Dole's harsh response to his opponent's words hurts the Republican candidate with the TV audience, to whom he comes across as hot-tempered.


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On this day in 2013 shooting was completed for the feature film adaptation of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation.

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In 2007, Harry Windsor landed at RAF Brizenorton after captors effected the Prince's release in Iraq. Reporters asked the Prince if he had regretted his Royal Status in captivity. 'The only Emperor is Emperor of Ice Cream' responded the Prince, making a wise reference to that most funereal of poems.

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Dead Harry

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In 1914, German troops besiege the city of Vilnius.

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In 1968, the movie industry, in an effort to stave off government censorship of films, adopted a voluntary system of ratings between G for general audiences and X for adult fare. Unfortunately, many filmmakers opted not to join the voluntary system, and it soon collapsed from lack of use. President Nixon's Film Censorship Board then took over the task of keeping Hollywood clean.

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In 1960, Senator John Kennedy of Massachusetts and Vice-President Richard Nixon debate for the second time on television, this time on matters of foreign policy. Kennedy made his famous declaration that Castro was a communist, and that, 'Today, Cuba is lost to freedom.' When Castro signed a trade and security agreement with the Eisenhower administration the next week, Kennedy was humiliated, and doubts about his competency in international affairs became certainties.

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In 1949, Communists in the eastern half of Germany secede and form the Democratic People's Republic of Germany. They hold the capitol, Berlin, and this prompts several of the 'White' governments of Europe to send military force into Germany to bring them back in line with the rest of the capitalist continent. With aid from the Soviet States of America, though, the People's Democracy is able to survive. Berlin remains the capitol of both Germanies, and is partitioned into a capitalist half and a communist half. It becomes the scene of much struggle over the years, including the wall that was constructed there, decried by Comrade President Rosenberg in his famous 'ich bin ein Berliner' speech.

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In 1896, Elijah Muhammed was born in Sandersville, Georgia. Brother Muhammed was almost single-handedly responsible for the surge in African-American acceptance of the light of Islam, through his disciple Martin King. Their efforts brought nearly 30 million Americans to the brotherhood of Islam.

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In 1982, composer/producer Andrew Lloyd Webber of Jesus Christ, Superstar fame opened a new musical on Broadway. It was based on, of all things, T.S. Eliot's Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats, and titled, simply, Cats. The show flopped; apparently, Webber had overestimated his ability to put just anything in front of the theater-going public.

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In 1955, Beat poet Alan Ginsberg read what he felt was his personal masterpiece, Howl, before an audience for the first time at the Six Gallery in San Francisco. What he thought would be a major literary turning point turned out to be a dud, and he soon returned to marketing, publishing small poems on the side.

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In 1949, Communists in the eastern half of Germany secede and form the Democratic People's Republic of Germany. They hold the capitol, Berlin, and this prompts several of the 'White' governments of Europe to send military force into Germany to bring them back in line with the rest of the capitalist continent. With aid from the Soviet States of America, though, the People's Democracy is able to survive. Berlin remains the capitol of both Germanies, and is partitioned into a capitalist half and a communist half. It becomes the scene of much struggle over the years, including the wall that was constructed there, decried by Comrade President Rosenberg in his famous 'ich bin ein Berliner' speech.

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In 2007, Pakistan opposition leader Imran Khan went into hiding after President Musharraf declared emergency rule. 'We have to stand up to (President) Musharraf,' Khan said in an interview for BBC South East Asia. 'This is probably one of the defining moments in Pakistan's history.' Some of the small group of supporters who were with Mr Khan were more anxious. There had been seven police raids around Lahore looking for him, they said. 'I could sense what was coming, and I need to be free to speak.' said Khan. 'It was irresponsible for Benazir Bhutto to lead protests in public', he added, 'the the people of Pakistan understand' jumping over a wall at his home to escape from the policemen he feared had come to arrest him.

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In 1993, Barry N. Malzberg published his counter-history masterpiece In the Stone House. Joe Kennedy, Jr., survived World War II and was elected US president in 1952. Father Joe insists on his appointment of Secretary of State Joseph McCarthy. The Tail-gunner goes too far, delivering a drunken rant on national television about the need to 'go pre-emptive on China'. Joe Jr is proved right as it 'ends in flames'.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Golda Meir was forever haunted by authorizing pre-emptive air strikes? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1973, with eighty-thousand troops of Anwar Sadat's Army set to cross the Suez Canal and strike Israel's unprepared reserve forces on the Bar-Lev Line, Golda Meir sanctioned a repeat of the pre-emptive strike that had destroyed the Egyptian Air Force on the ground during the first day of the Six-Day War.

Fall of the Third TempleThe Prime Minister's decision to approve the request from IDF Chief of State David Elazar (and disregard the counter advice of Minister of Defence Moyshe Dayan who could not bring himself to believe that Egypt and Syria were about to strike the first blow) was made in the context of an extraordinary set of circumstances.

Whilst Henry Kissinger anticipated a Middle East Peace Settlement during Nixon's Second Term, the initiative had been deprioritized when Anwar Sadat expelled Soviet advisors in July 1972. Unbeknown to the White House, or indeed Israeli Intelligence, the Kremlin had continued to supply Sadat with surface-to-air and anti-tank guided missiles plus fighter bombers.

By now the Nixon White House was mired in the chaos of Watergate and thus in no position to assert any form of authority. And Henry Kissinger, who had only been Secretary of State since September 22nd, was unable to grasp the issue because he was wielding executive power as the defacto President whilst his boss was in the process of going insane.

The strike itself had been planned for the holiest of Jewish festivals, Yom Kippur when Jewish forces were skeletally thin, and hardly expecting an attack from Arab Nations who were themselves celebrating Ramadan. Meir justified Israel's pre-emptive strike by proclaiming that "The Muslims can fight and lose, then come back and fight again. But Israel can only lose once".

It was a catastrophic misjudgement; Kissinger response was that Israel would not even receive "even a nail" from Washington. And within forty-eight hours, Arab Nations would announce a massive retailation including an oil boycott, Meir would order the readiness of thirteen tactical nuclear weapons, Dayan would advise "The Fall of the Third Temple" and America would move to DefCon3.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-05-05 01:27:33 ~ This scenario reminds me a bit of my "You May Fire When Ready" series.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-05-05 05:31:55 ~ \One reason Nixon helped Israel, at least IMO, was _because_ he was having trouble with Watergate. He may well have hoped that saving Israel would get him brownie points with the American Jewish community, who were heavily emotionally invested in Israel and very prominent among his antagonists.

Facebook Comment Comment from Margo Barotta on Facebook: the war of 1972 or '' kippour war'' the egypt and syria army strick israel .URSS give sadat weapons and the USA give israel waepons.the arab special egypt some win in sinai but at the end egypt sign a peace treaty with israel . and for the isreal goverment golda meir has finish from the goverment because the jewish society had been verry engry




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Gandalf had met Frodo at Bree? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1946, the plot direction of The Lord of the Rings was significantly changed as a result of a radical suggestion made in a letter that the author J. R. R. Tolkien received from his son who was serving in the Royal Air Force in South Africa.

Wizard!
LOTR, the Kick Ass Edition
Christopher identified a critical weakness, observing that the latest draft for the opus failed to deliver a clean break with The Hobbit and ultimately, without such an early plot device, the new trilogy might be judged unfairly alongside the prequel which was after all merely a child's fantasy novel.

His imaginative suggestion was to rewrite the legendarium character of Gandalf the Grey into the meeting at Bree. This seemingly minor change certainly had the desired ripple effect across the fabric of the novel.

Instead of meeting his fate at the hands of the Balrog in the Misty Mountains, the wizard dies in combat with the Ringwraiths at the Battle of the Ford. The horror of this epic fight scene provided an earlier, more resonant climax for the palpable sense of terror that had been building-up from the beginning of the Fellowship of the Ring. And his critical absence from the Council of Elrond added a sharper, more vibrant element of uncertainty to the entire Quest. As a result, the plot change was an exit point from the prequel that created a richer fantasy platform for the remaining two and a half chapters of the trilogy.
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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this article we explore an original idea from the Tolkien Forum. Wizard! is an old-fashioned, English school boy expression of delight/surprise.


Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2011-10-05 18:08:25 ~ Potentially, the whole story changes -- depending on whether or not he resurrects as he did after fighting the Balrog.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-10-05 20:47:59 ~ It would have made for a very cool fight, perhaps a better story with the heightened sense of danger. Would also explain why he didn't suggest asking the eagles to help out.

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-10-06 01:04:41 ~ Wow. Just, wow. I wish I could have a copy of this alternate universes Lord of the Rings.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-10-06 05:33:01 ~ This would be interesting...if I could travel across ATLs, one thing I might bring back would be alternate-universe Lord of the Rings.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-10-06 07:11:37 ~ By the way, is a female hobbit a hobbit*h? Just wondering...

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2011-10-07 13:02:16 ~ This is a story for fanfiction!

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2011-10-07 13:03:24 ~ Possible anthology-Alternate Lords of the Rings(and Gone With the Winds,The Godfathers,and other classics)




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Egyptian President Anwar Sadat had survived his 1981 assassination? muses Eric Lipps. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1981, an assassination team led by army lieutenant Khalid Islambouli attacked Egyptian president Anwar el-Sadat during the annual victory parade held in Cairo to celebrate Operation Badr, the code name for the Egyptian military operation to cross the Suez Canal and seize the Bar-Lev Line of Israeli fortifications on October 6, 1973.

Sadat LivesThe assassins, who attacked with grenades and rifles, failed to take out their target but did manage to kill eleven others, including Vice President Hosni Mubarak and Cuba's ambassador to Egypt.

Ringleader Islambouli was tried for treason, found guilty and executed in April 1982. Over three hundred prominent Islamic radicals were arrested along with him in connection with the attack, including Ayman al-Zawahiri and Omar Abdel-Rahman, both of whom were sentenced to life in prison.

A new story by Eric LippsSadat would become a mortal foe of the Islamists after his near-assassination, pursuing them aggressively until his death from heart failure on May 1, 1990. His harsh treatment of Islamic radicals would further alienate Iran and other hard-line states already angry at him for his peace overtures to Israel, and would cast a shadow over his efforts at domestic political reform, damaging his reputation in the West. Nonetheless, at his death he would be eulogized as "the indispensable man" in U.S. efforts to defuse the wider Arab-Israeli conflict. It would be Sadat, for example, who would finally persuade the Saudis to recognize Israel in 1989.

Ironically, that achievement would have a dark sequel, when in 1993 Islamist fanatics calling themselves "Al Qaeda" attacked Riyadh, killing Saudi king Fahd bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud and many other members of the Saudi royal family, plunging the country into chaos and presenting U.S. President Bill Clinton with his first major foreign-policy crisis. A reluctant Clinton found himself forced to assemble an international coalition to use military force to stabilize Saudi Arabia in order to keep its oil flowing, barely two years after President George H. W. Bush had done the same to force Iraq's dictator Saddam Hussein to end his armed occupation of neighboring Kuwait. Al Qaeda's leader, the wealthy Saudi-born Osama bin Laden, would be killed in the subsequent fighting and would become a martyr in the eyes of would-be anti-American jihadis.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in our history, of course, Sadat was killed and Vice-President Mubarak, who was only wounded in the attack, took power, remaining in office until now as a dictatorial but mostly pro-American leader. Mubarak has shown little enthusiasm for building upon the 1979 Camp David accords between his country and Israel, and has been less than determined to rein in the Islamists to whom he essentially owes his position. And in 1993, of course, Al Qaeda launched its first attack on the World Trade Center rather than going after the Saudi royal family. Zawahiri and Abdel-Rahman would receive lesser sentences and go on to infamy for their roles in anti-American terrorism.


Facebook Comment Comment from Amy Waters Yarsinske on Facebook: My college entrance essay was written about President Sadat and his role in the Middle East peace process; he was killed in the fall of my freshman year. Fast forward 20 years and I got to sit next to Jehan Sadat at dinner at my alma mater,... where she was honored with the Pearl Buck Award. It was there that I told her about the essay and how impactful it had been in securing me a place in the freshman class all those years before. She was really quite extraordinary and her view of her husband was probably more important to me than anyone else that night.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-02-05 03:34:30 ~ I don't know that al-Qaeda would be able to do much in Saudi---the security services there are on the ball, and they've had lots of problems with people of that stripe before (see the attack on the Grand Mosque in Mecca, for example.)

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-02-05 14:28:17 ~ I'm curious to know what happens to Mubarak in this timeline.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-02-05 17:00:52 ~ Interesting. I've thought of this one myself, but the al-Qaeda subplot is unique. However, I have to agree that it is highly unlikely, given that the organization came about as a merger with Zawahiri's group, and the Saudis' security is tight. Even so, the country wouldn't have been plunged into civil war by an assassination -- they have a long succession list, and the National Guard would put down any dispute. That's what it's there for.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-02-05 21:40:44 ~ There's a missing phrase right after "Over three hundred prominent Islamic radicals,"--the next words should be "were arrested along with him in connection with the attack". My bad. Fixed - no problem. Ed

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-02-05 21:46:49 ~ Re Mubarak: as noted in the post, he is killed instead of Sadat. In our history, he was wounded but, of course, lived on and took power--until now, anyway. As for Al Qaeda, it might still exist. the name simply means "The Base," and is used by more than one group in our world: for instance, "Al Qaeda in Iraq" (or "Mesopotamia") is not simply a branch of bin Laden's organization but a distinct entity. It's not hard to imagine the name still being used by ObL.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-02-07 03:13:49 ~ Difficult to tell whether it'd end up with more or less anti-American sentiment in the Middle East.




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