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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Battle of St. Jakob an der Birs had escalated the Zürich War? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the August 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1444, although they exposed the weakness of pike formations against artillery, the outnumbered forces of the Swiss Confederacy were able to safely withdraw from Basel to the small hospital of St. Jakob having earned the huge satisfaction of inflicting a brutal assault upon the invading French army.

Old Swiss Confederacy punish French at St. JakobBut the stoic expression of Swiss military bravery backfired spectacularly because the celebrated French Knight Burkhard VII Münch then rode to court to deliver a report that enraged Frederick III, Holy Roman Emperor. His sponsor, Charles VII of France was more philosophical because he had only acted upon the appeal to occupy his unruly Armagnac troops. Nevertheless, the prestige and honour of both monarchs had been seriously impugned, and they were forced to gather overwhelming force of men and artilley for a bolder mission. To relieve the besieged city of Zürich and also inflict a crushing blow upon Berne, the Swiss canton which had contributed the small army.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality the Swiss were trapped in the hospital and killed down to the last man. The defeat became heavily symbolic of the strategy of deterring powers of superior military strength from invading Switzerland by the threat of inflicting disproportionate casualties even in defeat, pursued by Swiss high command during the World Wars. In authoring this post, we have repurposed content from Wikipedia.


Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-08-29 21:06:47 ~ Not sure what this means. Short term, less willingness to settle terms (OTL peace treaty signed at Ensisheim on 28 October) Middle term Swiss Confederacy dealt a much bigger block and an out and out assault rather than half-hearted swipe. Long term, change to Swiss military mind set, less respect for the myth of stoicism at this battle in the Swiss imagination

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-08-30 03:03:33 ~ With the Swiss Confederacy weaker, would fewer or more Swiss mercenaries have been available?

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-08-30 17:31:40 ~ Could be enough to wipe out Swiss independence, though it'd be back in spades as the next century's religious wars flared up.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Bohemian Army had won the Battle on the Marchfield? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the August 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1278, on this day a Bohemian army led by the Přemyslid king Ottokar II (pictured) survived a late ambush from Imperial-Hungarian forces to win the decisive Battle on the Marchfeld fought at Dürnkrut and Jedenspeigen.

Přemyslid Dynasty seize Central EuropeThe Holy Roman Empire had been in acute crisis ever since the deposition of Emperor Frederick II of Hohenstaufen by Pope Innocent IV. Several nobles were elected as Rex Romanorum (King of the Romans) and Emperor-to-be. But despite the formation of an alliance with King Ladislaus IV of Hungary, the German king Rudolph I of Habsburg was unable to install his own dynasty as a replacement for the now defunct Royal House of Hohenstaufen. Because his dishonourable ambush was anticipated by Ottokar, who lead a remaining reserve contingent into the rearguard of troops led von Kapellen, Rudolph's field commander. And so he would be known to history simply as a "poor count" from Swabian Habsburg Castle. Instead, it would be Ottokar, the Iron and Golden King, who would be declared Rex Romanorum and his dynasty that would dominate Central Europe through to the twentieth century.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Ottokar was defeated and his grandson murdered, the result was the extinction of the dynasty in 1306. In authoring this post, we have repurposed content from Wikipedia.


Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-12-30 10:30:15 ~ Image improvement. The term Bohemian could mean a more machismo-type of thing, or seen as more of a winner than a thinker, or such. That is my first thought of what might have eventually happened.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-12-30 13:10:36 ~ Hapsburg? Hmmmm! With no ruling House of Hapsburg, would there have been no World War I and therefore no Russian Revolution or World War II? Now THAT'S what I'd call a happy ending!




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Wilhelm Hohenzollern had been crowned King of England? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1820, on this day the future Prince consort of the United Kingdom Francis Albert Augustus Charles Emmanuel (pictured) born at Schloss Rosenau in the Saxon duchy of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld to a family connected to many of Europe's ruling monarchs.
This post is an article from the Good Old Willie thread.

Good Old Willie #5At the age of twenty he married his first cousin, Queen Victoria, with whom he would ultimately have nine children. At first, Albert felt constrained by his position as consort, which did not confer any power or duties upon him. Over time he adopted many public causes, such as educational reform and a worldwide abolition of slavery, and took on the responsibilities of running the Queen's household, estates and office. He was heavily involved with the organisation of the Great Exhibition of 1851. Albert aided in the development of Britain's constitutional monarchy by persuading his wife to show less partisanship in her dealings with Parliament-although he actively disagreed with the interventionist foreign policy pursued during Lord Palmerston's tenure as Foreign Secretary.

But it was the Trent Affair that finally allowed the Prince Albert to emerge from his shadowy position as a foreign figurehead. When the forcible removal of Confederate envoys from a British ship by Union forces threatened war between the United States and Britain, Albert intervened to soften the British diplomatic response. More remarkably, he was at this time gravely ill, having been desperately unwell for two years. Although his physician William Jenner had diagnosed typhoid fever but it finally began to clear up by December of 1861. It would remain a cold, solemn Christmas, but, by spring, Albert would be well among the living.

A decade later, his diplomatic skills would be brought to the fore again during the break-up of the North German Confederation. Not only would he expedite the Hohenzollern flight to England during a naval clash in the North Sea with the Russian Navy, but he would also rise to the putative leadership of the independent German States. And as he increasingly assumed the role of elder statesman, he became a mentor to his eldest grandson, Friedrich Wilhelm Viktor Albrecht Hohenzollern. By 1897, he was long dead and Britain and France went to war over the Fashoda Crisis. Two years later, Wilhelm Hohenzollern would be crowned King of England. He would need every ounce of his grandfather's diplomatic skills to navigate the ship of state through uncertain waters. And perhaps even seek a restoration of the Prussian monarchy.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this article we repurpose significant amounts of content from Wikipedia and also have re-used a POD suggested by Jeff Provine in his unrelated "Price Albert Recovers" article.


Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-08 10:13:17 ~ What is planned for a Fashoda War? Is it intended to be short? I would say as the European Balance of Power is disturbed it would be a major war with britainbringing in allies onthe Continent.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-07-08 18:55:42 ~ If Albert had lived, Britain would probably have been a much better place.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-08 19:33:26 ~ Yes I think so as well - and Ireland certainly would have been!

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-07-08 21:15:10 ~ But Victoria kept saying that she was only doing what Dearest Albert would have wished.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-08 21:20:30 ~ yes, I know, butI think things would have gone further if he had been there.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-07-09 15:19:37 ~ Albert could do a lot of behind-the-scenes finagling that Victoria didn't. He was doing so when he got sick, even. Some suggest he worked himself to an early death.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-07-10 13:04:24 ~ I had always heard that Albert got sick because he was rushing through the bad weather to confront his son, the future King Edward, over his bad behavior with chorus girls. Victoria blamed Edward completely and never forgave him, while, of course, no one dared to tell her that lots of young officers behaved badly with chorus girls and it was really no big deal. Once Edward was king, he behaved badly with lots of girls, including Sarah Bernhardt.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-07-10 13:15:27 ~ Yes, I heard that as well.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Royal Naval Officer George Washington had sailed on the first voyage of Captain Cook? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1768, on this day Sally Fairfax and prominent members of the Loyalist Community bade farewall to George Washington as he boarded the HMS Endeavour and set sail for the south Pacific Ocean under the command of Captain James Cook (pictured).
This post is an article from the Midshipman George Washington thread.

Midshipman George Washington #5As the Second in Command of the combined Royal Navy and Royal Society expedition, Washington had been briefed that the mission objective was to sail to Tahiti to observe the transit of Venus across the Sun. This was to occur on 3-4 June 1769; however Cook had also been provided with secret instructions that he was to open after the solar event.

But when Cook died on Tahiti, the instructions were passed to Washington who was ordered to seek evidence of the "unknown southern land" postulated Terra Australis Incognita. Not only did he discover the Gold Coast, but he also claimed the vast continent in the name of King George III.

As a result of this stunning achievement, he was quickly promoted in the Royal Navy becoming an exception to the normal limitations imposed upon colonial advancement. A decade later, he faced the altogether more difficult task of retaining a continent for the monarch. But instead his defeat at Chesakpeake Bay would lead directly to the surrender at Yorktown which effectively ended the American War of Independence. If there was a positive in this outcome then it was that he now had a great deal of time on his hands to live happily ever after with the widow Sally Fairfax.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this article of our continuing thread we explore some exciting new ideas from John Braungart ("Washington was a surveyor before he joined the militia. Is there any chance that he replaces/augments Captain James Cook in his voyages of exploration?") and Jackie Rose.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-05-20 19:10:26 ~ Wow, this version of Washington spends more time at sea than Popeye. :D

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-05-23 16:25:28 ~ Poor Cook. Wonder if anyone took up his later voyages toward a Northwest Passage, or if Hawaii had some time bought before the plagues came.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-05-23 17:30:24 ~ The Gold Coast? Do you mean Australia? The "Gold Coast" in OTL was in Africa!

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2012-05-23 21:55:32 ~ On reflection Tory is the wrong term for 1760's. Loyalist would probably be better. Fixed - thanks. Ed IMO. Also who is Sally the widow of? George William Fairfax




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the French had won the Battle of Crécy? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1346, on this day the urgent need to re-configure the out-dated crossbow and knight combination was demonstrated by the narrow margin of the hard-fought French victory at the Battle of Crécy.

Battle of CrécyPhilip VI of France's much larger force of thirty-five thousand men massively outnumbered an Anglo-Welsh army of fifteen thousand men. And yet the superiority of Anglo-Welsh weapons and tactics brought a decision that was close to call.

But on the day, a favourable turn in the weather, the maneuverability of the French knights and an exceptional performance from the Genoese crossbowmen prevented Edward III of England from pulling off what would have been a stunning victory.

In addition to the required tactical update, Philip VI ordered a development of French armour that could withstand a storm of longbow arrows.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this article we explore an idea on the AH discussion board and repurpose content from Wikipedia.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-01-10 19:07:16 ~ If the weather hadn't been rainy and forced the Genoese to not use their crossbows, the French _might_have pulled it off. However, their gift for snatching defeat from victory's jaws is not ever to be underestimated.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-10 19:07:16 ~ Giving another chance to the French knight would seem like an upper hand, but it might work counteractive if they don't manage to get the "longbow-proof armor", making Agincourt an even bigger massacre. On the other hand, if they could protect the knights, it would make the age of Chivalry last longer, at least in France. That would be an alternate history of France with more of a parliament system than being the champion of the ideas on Divine Right and autocracy that was seen under Louis XIV.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-01-28 15:50:29 ~ And then, in 1348, the Black Death arrived . . . which might well have undone the French victory, as it nearly undid Europe asa whole.

Readers Comment Timothy McFadden commented on 2012-01-28 17:43:12 ~ What happens to Edward III? Does this end the war there? France has vastly greater resources ,they could afford to lose battles. The english couldn't. Not only that, but the Froggies have killed or captured the king- even if he makes it back to england, he's the twit who took on an army twice his size and got spanked. And with this as the background, is anyone going to be nuts enough to try to pull off Agincourt? Will Shakespeare still get to write about Crispin Crispians day?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Byzantine Forces won the Battle of Manzikert? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

In our timeline, the decisive defeat of the Byzantine army and the capture of the Emperor Romanos IV Diogenes played an important role in undermining Byzantine authority in Anatolia and Armenia, and allowed Turks to gradually populate Anatolia. In this alternative timeline, we vary three critical command decisions in order to change the outcome.


This story was published in the November 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1071, on this day Byzantine control of Anatolia and Armenia seem to be assured by the decisive defeat of the Seljuq Turks at the Battle of Manzikert.

Byzantine victory at the Battle of ManzikertThe brunt of the battle was borne by the professional soldiers from the eastern and western tagmata, as large numbers of the mercenaries and Anatolian levies fled early and survived the battle. The army therefore consisted of five thousand professional Roman troops from the western provinces and the same number from the eastern provinces; five hundred Frankish and Norman mercenaries under Roussel de Bailleul; some Turkic (Uz and Pecheneg) and Bulgarian mercenaries; infantry under the duke of Antioch; a contingent of Georgian and Armenian troops; and some (but not all) of the Varangian Guard, to total around forty to seventy thousand men.

That number did not include the scoundrel Andronikos Doukas, the co-regent and a direct rival to the Emperor Romanos IV Diogenes. He was relieved of the reserve guard command shortly before the battle commenced. Another potentially fatal mistep was also narrowly avoided by recalling General Joseph Tarchaneiotes. He had been ordered to take some of the Roman troops and Varangians and accompany the Pechenegs and Franks to Khliat. This idiotic misjudgement would have split the forces in half and in all probability would have led to catastrophe.

But in the event, the result was a tremendous victory for the Emperor who reinforced Byzantine prestige further with the capture of the commander of the opposing forces, the Sultan of Seljuq dynasty Alp Arslan (great-grandson of Seljuk, the eponymous founder of the dynasty). That prestige did not last very long.

On the long and difficult march back through Asia minor, furious resentment and indignation amongst his troops finalled exploded over an incident with his luxurious baggage train. Diogenes was assassinated by the Frankish mercenaries who he had angered en route when he confronted them about their plundering. The decision not to dismiss them had ensured full troop strength for the battle, but ultimately led to his downfall anyway.


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Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-10-14 15:34:01 ~ Both governments having hiccups with ruling commanders... whoever gets their act together first would have a nice power-vacuum to fill.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2011-10-14 16:28:28 ~ The Principality of Antioch post-dates Manzikert by a good quarter century. That being said the real question is if Arslan could regain _his_ throne, although given the clearances of Anatolia by it's own nobility (sheep seemed less trouble and more profit than peasant infantry) a lot of Turks will probably be setting up shop anyway even Constaninople remains overlord of the place.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-10-15 06:09:29 ~ It would have been nice, and maybe given Byzantium time to recover from the mismanagement that had made Anatolia so open to conquest. However, I do think that sooner or later, something would have happened...there were too many enemies.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Admiral Byrd's final mission really had a military objective? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

The fighting in Europe is finished, but the war is far from over because the Fuhrer has fled to Antartica. Cornered like a rat in his frozen Bechtesgarten, the Allies need to destroy his secret base before he can fight back with his secret Nazi technology..

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In 1946, on this day the 4,700 men, 13 ships, and multiple aircraft carriers of Task Force 68 departed from Norfolk, Virginia on a mission to end the Second World War by destroying the Secret Nazi Base in New Swabia, Antarctica.

Battle of AntarcticaUS Navy Secretary James Forrestal had personally supervised the assembly of this huge amphibious naval force, but for the mission itself, the principal leadership figure was Rear Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd, Jr. who had been given operational command of the Carrier Group.

Forrestal had determined that Byrd was uniquely qualified to succeed in his assigned role in "Operation High Jump". He had already led three missions to Antartica but this would be the first that was funded by the Federal Government. Also, in the 1938 he had travelled to Hamburg where he was invited to participate in the 1938/1939 German "Neuschwabenland" Antarctic Expedition which he been forced to decline with great regret.

And yet the mission itself was uniquely challenging. On the 19th February, 1947 six R4-D planes took off from the carrier "Phillipine Sea" but only five returned. The sixth returned some seven hours later, after Byrd met with the Fuhrer. No details of that meeting have ever emerged, apart from a fragment from Byrd's Missing Diary ~ "There comes a time when the rationality of men must fade into insignificance and one must accept the inevitability of the Truth! I am not at liberty to disclose the following documentation at this writing ...perhaps it shall never see the light of public scrutiny, but I must do my duty and record here for all to read one day. In a world of greed and exploitation of certain of mankind can no longer suppress that which is truth". This article is taken from the NaziUFO thread.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-09-30 05:22:27 ~ It's correctly spelled "Antarctica." And if the Germans have had time to establish themselves, they're in one of the strongest possible defensive positions on the globe, particularly if they've set up local sources for food. I would conveniently fall sick before going on this little trek.

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-09-30 08:55:25 ~ I wish I knew what the truth really was? Byrd says things happend that the Government denies. Yet the feds confiscated his books so close to being sold they basically took them off the shelves before the stores opened. They say Forrestal was nuts but some say he was pushed out a window of the navel psy ward by agents of the Government. If you talk to vets of the operation they don't recall any battle with UFO's or Nazis. Yet why send a battle group on a mission that was basically non military according to the offical reasons for it.

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-09-30 08:57:18 ~ This site needs an edit option. Closed should read close. Fixed - thanks. Ed

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2011-09-30 11:57:57 ~ Antarctica might be easily defended, but who would WANT to? Other than crazy Nazis, that is

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-09-30 13:37:00 ~ The penguins, maybe? :)

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-09-30 19:17:02 ~ If the Nazis came across information hidden in the city of the Elder Things from the Mountains of Madness, I'd bet they'd want to hold onto it.

Readers Comment Sailorbarsoom commented on 2011-09-30 19:19:48 ~ This expedition MUST include the US 10th Mountain Division!

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-09-30 21:28:01 ~ Isn't the R4-D the naval variant of the C-47 (DC-3)? I would love to have seen one of those take off from the USS Philippine Sea! In this timeline, Task Force 68 was beefed up quite a bit; in reality, the task force only contained four warships: one carrier, two destroyers and a submarine. Everything else carried fuel or supplies only.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Barack Obama story had a tragic ending? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the September 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2009, on this day Mark Obama Ndesandjo published "From Nairobi To Shenzhen" a diarised account of the twelve month search for the notorious head of the al-Qaeda terrorist network his half brother, Barack Hussein Obama.
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From Nairobi To ShenzhenThe origin of the world's most radical Islamic terrorist really began in the Menteng neighborhood of Jakarta where Barack and his mother moved after their father returned to Kenya.

Ironically, while he was being educated in a radical Muslim school Barack Obama, Snr was fathering younger son Mark with Ruth Nidesand the daughter of Lithuanian Jewish immigrants.

The explosive climax of the book is a clandestine meeting in an Indian restaurant. Before his arrest by undercover CIA agents, Barack learns the terrible truth, that the absent father that he dreamt of for so many years was in fact a brutal wife-abuser that terrorized the childhood of his half-brothers Mark and David.


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Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-08-27 02:30:18 ~ This is more fact then fiction With Obama ading Al-Quada in Libya.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-08-27 13:12:27 ~ Obama dooing *what* with *whom* in Libya? I think you mean "aiding"--but if so, where's your vidence that the Libyan rebels are tied to Al Qaeda? One would have had more grounds for accusing Obama of aiding terrorists if he had *opposed* the rebellion and supported Qaddafi.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-08-27 16:35:43 ~ A very different world indeed. He'd one tough dude to work his way up through to the top of Al Qaeda with a white Kansan mother.

Readers Comment Brian Wall commented on 2011-08-27 18:18:34 ~ Eric, relax. there have been rumors that Al-Qaeda has been helping the rebels. But to tie that to Obama is tentative at best.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Democratic Party had not supported Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky Affair? muses Don Keko. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This article was republished in accordance with fair use rules.

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In 2010, on this day Don Keko wrote ~ What if Al Gore won the 2000 Presidential Election?

What if Al Gore won the 2000 Presidential Election?The Democratic Party overwhelmingly supported Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky Affair. The president changed the terms of debate from abuse of power and obstruction of justice to "Sexual McCarthyism".

Independents bought into this line of reasoning helping Clinton escape removal from office. By November 2000, many of those independents changed their minds and decided to punish Vice President Al Gore's Presidential Campaign. Democratic support for Bill Clinton during the impeachment crisis cost the party the White House in 2000. In an alternate universe, a Gore Presidency eliminated the excesses of the Bush and Obama years, but experienced the same problems.

A reblogged article written by Don KekoAt the beginning of the impeachment crisis, many Democrats considered abandoning President Clinton. If a key Democrat or two called for the president's resignation, Clinton might have been forced to resign or been removed by the U.S. Senate in 1999. In an alternate scenario, Clinton's removal elevated Al Gore to the presidency. Continuous change is an anathema to American voters. So, those same voters refused to change presidents twice within two years. With the bubble economy continuing to appear strong, only Gore could beat Gore. President Gore earns 55% of the popular vote winning the presidency in his own right.

Gore's election represented a departure from the Clinton Era and a slight change in political and social history. Gore governed more ideologically than Clinton. However, the Republican Congress blocked the president's initiatives. The resulting gridlock eliminated the possibility of any major policy breakthroughs such as a Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit or Obamacare. This conflict helped keep the budget deficit under control, but it did not mean a balanced budget.

Despite the fiscal discipline, a mild recession struck in early 2001 leading to deficit spending. The economy received another shock on September 11, 2001. Nineteen Islamic terrorists hijacked passenger airliners and flew them into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Passengers took down a third plane en route for Washington D.C. In response, the United States fired cruise missiles into empty El Qaeda camps in Afghanistan and placed the mastermind Osama bin Laden on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List. Several months later, the United States invaded Afghanistan and overthrew the Taliban government. The Taliban and El Qaeda fled to the hills. President Gore declared victory and ended combat operations.

Despite the apparent victory in Aghanistan, the Middle East remained a problem. Iran continued to support terrorism and marched toward a nuclear weapon. President Gore recommended sanctions, but received little help from the international community. Meanwhile, Iran's neighbor moved toward international acceptance. Saddam Hussein remained an annoyance, but the Gore Administration decided to cultivate a relationship with the dictator as opposed to removing the regime.

By 2004, Gore enjoyed few successes. He handled the 911 crisis well and overthrew the Taliban. The mild recession that followed him into office ended. However, he scored few domestic successes as he fought the Republican Congress. In the general election, Gore defeated Republican Nominee John McCain. McCain ran a poor campaign and voters were loathe to fire the commander-in-chief with a war in Afghanistan. Despite Gore's narrow re-election, the Republicans maintain control of Congress.

After securing re-election, Gore moved to reform social security and health care. The resulting firestorm hampered his administration. Gore's luck changed for the worse when Hurricane Katrina extinguished the social security controversy. In late August 2005, the hurricane destroyed New Orleans leaving the city underwater. Gore declared an emergency, but the federal government responded slowly. The lack of state response accentuated the federal tardiness. Even though the state and local governments were ultimately responsible for the poor first response, voters blamed Gore.

Katrina was not the only storm Gore faced in his second term. The president worried about a second Vietnam in Afghanistan. The country's reputation as the empire's graveyard terrified Gore. In 2004, he began a premature withdrawal of U.S. troops. By 2006, the Taliban began a resurgence. Gore decided to respond with drone and special forces attacks. This strategy proved spotty at best. By 2008, the Taliban conquered Afghanistan undercutting America's earlier efforts.

Gore faced a third storm accompanying Katrina and Afghanistan. In late 2008, the economy collapsed. The housing market and derivatives trading precipitated a major recession. Voters blamed Gore and took their anger out on Democratic nominee Barack Obama. The Republicans captured the White House for the first time since 1988 behind former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

The Democratic Party did not abandon Bill Clinton. As a result, Al Gore never became president. Had he won the presidency, there would not have been so-called health care reform, prescription drug benefit, high deficits, an Obama Presidency, or a Democratic Congress. However, the 911 attacks, Hurricane Katrina, and Afghanistan would have all combined to undercut his presidency. Sometimes changing horses does not make a difference.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-22 02:43:50 ~ The question I'd like to have an answer to is: "Did Clinton have enough dirt on Democrats (those FBI files) to ensure that they'd stick by him?" I remember reading that Bill had said that if he went down he was taking a lot of people with him.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-01-22 16:52:19 ~ I don't remember reading that, but I'd venture that if Clinton had "dirt" on people, that probably included prominent Republicans--and I don't really believe he'd have had to try to blackmail fellow Democrats to keep them in line, given the transparently partisan nature of his impeachment.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-01-22 17:00:00 ~ Poor Gore.

Readers Comment Bruce Johnson commented on 2011-01-22 19:12:20 ~ A number of good points about things that would have happened in any case, no matter who won in 2000 (and I appreciate this more even-handed recognition of where the relative fault lay - or did not - with Katrina and the housing bubble, etc). But Iraq is dispatched with a bit too facilely -- an 'annoyance'? Saddam Hussein was thumbing his nose at the West (from shooting at planes in the no-fly zone, to the ENORMOUS Oil for Food scandal, to efforts - even if unsuccessful at the time - to keep his nuclear program alive). And he was on the brink of coming out from under sanctions... which would have freed him to to pursue this agenda. Are we to believe he would, without at least the threat of military measures, suddenly have switched course & become amenable to negotiating with the US on terms acceptable to the latter?? // I'm also not entirely sure the Afghanistan War in THIS scenario presents enough of a threat (yet) to be a major factor in support of Gore's RE-election. // As for Obama becoming the 2008 nominee in this scenario, there is MUCH against it, beginning with the fact that his opposition to the Iraq War -- non-existent in this case -- was a key to his early support... In any case, I suspect that, lacking the clear opportunity, he would have deferred his Presidential ambitions (as most originally expected in THIS world). // Finally, though it might be too much to expect, if Gore DID pursue a more ideological Presidency (i.e., more Obama than Clinton-like), what means OTHER than the legislature might he have used -- esp. via courts & regulations -- to enact some of his policies?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Leonardo Da Vinci (rather than Michelangelo) had agreed to sculpt the figure of marble called David? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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By 1501, an enormous block of marble nicknamed "The Giant" and "David" had sat unused for some thirty-five years. Agostino di Duccio had been given the block to sculpt into a massive portrayal of the biblical David in 1464, but the death of his master Donatello in 1466 had interrupted the project.

Da Vinci Agrees to Sculpt David Rossellino had been commissioned to continue, but his contract had been terminated. Until 1501, the block sat in the church workshop, cataloged as a certain figure of marble called David, badly blocked out and supine".

Leonardo da Vinci was consulted to work on the marble, but he initially declined. Times had been rough for the Renaissance man: he had fled French troops in Milan the year before and spent the interim in Venice working as a military architect before arriving in Florence. In the meantime, the invading French had used "Gran Cavallo", his massive clay model of a horse (larger even than Donatello's), as a practice target. He was currently working on a cartoon of the Virgin while living at a monastery, and he doubted he could take on the extra work.

A new story by Jeff ProvineWhen Leonardo heard that the contract was going to go to the young upstart Michelangelo (who had recently completed the much applauded Piet?), he changed his mind. Michelangelo had insulted him years ago by implying that Leonardo was incapable of casting Gran Cavallo, which, worse, proved true as the bronze promised for the statue was taken to be used for cannon to defend Milan. Leonardo interrupted Michelangelo's contract, offering to do the work for little more than room and board. After a week and a half of the two artists bickering, Leonardo finally blurted, "He might give you a sculpture that can stand, but I'll give you one that can sing!"

Michelangelo scoffed, but the Operai, the commission for overseeing the works of the Duomo, were impressed. They had heard of Leonardo's many inventions and weapons, so they decided to give the man a chance. Leonardo had originally meant the singing to be figurative, but now he was stuck in a contract that would prove to revolutionize the Renaissance world.

Leonardo buried himself in a study of automatons. Stories of Greek, Egyptian, and Chinese machines that looked like men gave precedence but no real mechanical inspiration. The Arab Al-Jazari three hundred years before had built an emulation of a four-piece band that played on a boat as well as a robotic servant for washing guests' hands. Leonardo himself had sketched a series of gears to emulate sitting up and moving arms and legs just a few years before as part of his work with the Vitruvian Man. The impossible task gradually seemed doable.

His first task was to plan the singing David, making countless sketches in a variety of positions, finally planning the David to have his face toward Heaven while stroking a lyre. While assistants carved the marble, Leonardo studied music boxes and the human voice, creating a series of leather tubes powered by a hidden bellows and recorded positions of flaps on metal discs. Tiny levers and tubes would run through hollowed holes in the marble. The final statue (finished in 1507) was unable to produce recognizable words, but his humming was described as "angelic" by all who saw it. David's arm moved on a rotating gear, striking three notes on the carefully crafted enormous lyre that rested in his hands.

The robotic David astounded Florence, spreading Leonardo's fame throughout Europe. King Louis XII brought Leonardo to court, ordering as many moving statues as the artist could produce until his death in 1519. His workshop continued his work afterward, and multiple workshops sprang up emulating their techniques. A fury for automatons ran through Europe, leading to the Clockwork Revolution of the seventeenth century when labor-saving devices were routinely created by out-of-work artists and architects. Self-rising buckets from wells, continually pounding hammers powered by hot air in blacksmiths' forges, and the sewing machine changed life as the Enlightenment blossomed. With the adoption of steam power in the early 1700s, factories began to usher in the Industrial Revolution.

Michelangelo, meanwhile, returned to Rome after creating a bust of Mona, wife of the wealthy Florentine silk merchant Francesco del Giocondo, noted for its cryptic frown, almost as if frozen in a sigh. In Rome, he worked mainly on tombstones for the wealthy and powerful while his rival Raphael painted the well received, but not revolutionary, ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality, the twenty-six-year-old Michelangelo did complete the contract for David, one of the masterpieces of the Renaissance. It, as well as his Piet? and portrayals in the Sistine Chapel, helped Michelangelo become one of the most influential artists in Western history. Leonardo da Vinci's cartoon of "The Virgin and Child with St Anne and St John the Baptist" would be well received, but few of his works became more than the job at hand. He finished many smaller projects, such as the Mona Lisa and, under the patronage of King Francis I, a mechanical lion that could walk and open a compartment in its chest containing flowers.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-27 07:10:53 ~ Was da Vinci ever seriously a sculptor? To do that, he'd have had to be able to carve marble.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-08-27 14:25:32 ~ Good point.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Confederate Commanders immediately followed-up the victory at Bull Run? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1861, just four weeks after the chaotic evacuation from Washington City the Union mustered sufficient organisation to reseat the National Government upon the island of Manhattan which became the new Federal District under an emergency cessation by the New York State Legislature.

Crucifixion Day Part 2 by Ed, Stan Brin & Eric LippsThe Union received an immediate setback to its national authority when a few days later the District of Columbia signed an act of retrocession returning the territory to the State of Maryland.

Whilst his murdered predecessor had grappled with the retention of Federal Property in the Confederate States, for President Hannibal Hamlin the game had moved on from Fort Sumter and at a pace. Because George Washington's capital was in the hands of the Confederate troops who had crushed Union Forces at the Battle of Bull Run.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-04-20 01:25:14 ~ What's retrocession? Please see the hyperlink in the post.

Facebook Comment Comment from Joshua Town Destroyer on Facebook: The Confederate forces after Bull Run didn't have the organization to push for Washington. In fact, it would've stupid, and suicide.

Facebook Comment Comment from Mike McIlvain on Facebook: I think you are right, but, what if? Interesting question. I have always had the impression that there might have been a cast-war sometime after if the south had won. I have understood that there was a lot of resentment toward the wealthy from the poor then. The wealthy, if they owned 20 or more slaves, did not have to fight, I have read and seen on the History Channel. But the poor sharecropper had to endure battle, and hope to survive.

Facebook Comment Comment from Joshua Town Destroyer on Facebook "The Best Lies have a bit of truth in them." Having the Confederates capture Washington after Bull Run is exceedingly easy as long as you have the right POD, and I was just pointing out that this one would be inadequate and thus those who are annoyingly knowledgeable on the subject will be turned off by the image of a small, unorganized rag-tag ... See Moregroup of soldiers somehow taking a city garrisoned with multiple troops. That said, I would like to see a What If? one of these days where Lincoln decides against the Fort Sumter thing, and let's the Confederacy go, thus keeping Virginia, North Carolina, Arkansas, and Tennessee in the Union in the process.

Facebook Comment Comment from Mike McIlvain on Facebook: I would like to see that one, too.

Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-04-20 02:34:13 ~ Lincoln becomes a martyer to the national union, and; north mobilizes great forces that ultimately recover the place. It is for the north to win, they have the industry with which to produce the weapons, they have the manpower, they have the infrastructure and railroads. All they need is the general with the guts and brains to lead the north's forces since all the generals had previously come from the South compliments of Slave power controled Democrat party politicians.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-04-20 05:59:15 ~ FWIW, George Washington may have been involved in founding the place, but his government was always at Philadelphia AFAIK.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-04-20 11:21:39 ~ Er . . . not sure what you mean about "founding the place." Washington didn't help "found" New York, but he was inaugurated there the first time around, and NYC has the advantage over Philadelphia in that it's an island and not already a state capital. As for Albany not wanting to give up the city's tax revenues, I'd imagine some sort of political deal would have been cut to mollify it.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-04-21 02:08:47 ~ There were enough intact Confederate forces to do this if someone had been placed in charge of them. Beauregard and Johnson were as disorganized by their victory as the troops they led. Now presume Davis had sent lee up as an observer and Beauregard had given him command of the unengaged Confederate left then yes this is vaguely possible. There was essentially no one to stop such a forced march. Patterson's Army was intact up still around Harper's Ferry. However why on earth would the capital move to Manhattan? Most probable answers are Philadelphia [history and proximity] or somewhere in the Upper Midwest [Columbus, Cleveland, Chicago] as a way of holding those states in the Union. Manhattan was always regarded as somewhat weird and foreign.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, we close-out the No Chappaquiddick thread with this alt-obituary of Edward Kennedy. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2009, family members announced the death of former President Edward M. Kennedy. According to their statement, President Kennedy passed away shortly before midnight on Tuesday, August 25. He had been battling brain cancer since being diagnosed with the disease in May of 2008.

End of the Road at Chappaquddick by Eric LippsKennedy was the last of the four sons of Joseph P. Kennedy Sr., the controversial multimillionaire who had served as U.S. ambassador to Great Britain in the 1930s. The eldest brother, Joseph Jr., died in 1944 while on a World War II bombing mission. He was followed by John F. Kennedy, who after entering politics in 1946 served as U.S. representative, senator and finally President of the United States before being assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, and by Robert F. Kennedy, who as a senator from New York ran for president until his own murder on June 5, 1968, just after his victory in the California Democratic primary. Robert Kennedy's death left Edward, commonly known as "Ted," as the last male survivor of his generation of the Kennedy family.

In 1972, Sen. Kennedy ran for president and won the Democratic nomination before being defeated by incumbent President Richard M. Nixon. Following the disgrace and resignation of both Nixon and his first vice-president Spiro T. Agnew, however, Kennedy ran again and once more won the Democratic nomination. As in 1972, he chose Washington Sen. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson as his running mate. It was in some ways an odd match, for Jackson was considerably more conservative than Kennedy on many issues, but where it had failed in 1972 against Nixon, the Kennedy-Jackson ticket prevailed in 1976 over the Watergate-shadowed Gerald R. Ford and his VP choice, Gov. Nelson A. Rockefeller of New York.

Kennedy would comment to several biographers on the role of sheer luck in his rise to the White House. On June 18, 1972, he had been returning from a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Martha's Vineyard, an intoxicated Kennedy had narrowly avoided a fatal accident when his car almost plunged off a bridge. Had the vehicle actually gone over, Kennedy noted, it was likely that either he, his female passenger Mary Jo Kopechne, or both would have died. Even if he had survived, the President suggested, the death of Kopechne might have permanently tarnished him, making his election to the presidency impossible. Instead, he said, the event helped persuade him to seek help with his growing dependency on alcohol, which had worsened after the death of his brother Robert the year before. His struggle with alcohol would inspire his founding, with his first wife Joan, of the Kennedy Center for Substance Abuse Treatment in 1988.

President Kennedy won reelection in 1980, narrowly defeating former California governor Ronald Reagan. Barely two months after his second inaugural, however, he was shot and seriously wounded by former mental patient John Hinckley, who had attempted to assassinate him to impress the actress Jodie Foster, with whom he had become infatuated. Vice-President Jackson was briefly named acting president under the Twenty-fifth Amendment -- the first time this had been done -- until it was clear Kennedy would be able to return to his duties.

In 1983, Vice-President Jackson himself would die, of an aortic aneurysm, forcing President Kennedy to seek a replacement. He selected Sen. Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, who would serve until Kennedy left office in January 1989.

As President, Kennedy would champion a number of causes, including health care reform, education and the environment, resulting in, among other things, the passage in 1984 of the Medicare Prescription Drug Pricing Act empowering Medicare to negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. He would also face a number of crises, including the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. His decision to selectively support the secular elements of the anti-Soviet mujaheddin would anger U.S. conservatives, already bitter at his decision in 1979 not to permit the deposed Shah of Iran to come to the U.S. For treatment for lymphoma, and would be opposed even by his own CIA director, Stansfield Turner. Kennedy's critics favored the Islamic fundamentalist factions, which they felt were more strongly anti-Communist. Also enraged would be many of those fundamentalists, including a Saudi expatriate named Osama bin Laden, who would go on to form the terrorist network known as Al Qaeda. In 1993 and again in 2001, this group attempted spectacular attacks against the U.S. The first attack, involving a powerful car bomb parked in the basement of the World Trade Center, did limited damage to the Trade Towers, resulting in six deaths; the second would be thwarted altogether after then-President John McCain responded forcefully to warnings that Al Qaeda was planning another strike against the United States.

After leaving the White House, President Kennedy would continue to advocate for his favorite causes, though his support would prove insufficient to overcome GOP opposition to the Nunn Administration's 1993 AmeriCare proposal for national health coverage.

He is survived by his second wife Victoria, two grown sons, Edward M. Kennedy Jr. of Branford, Conn., and United States Representative Patrick J. Kennedy of Rhode Island, two stepchildren, Curran Raclin and Caroline Raclin, and a sister, Jean Kennedy Smith.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-08-27 05:52:39 ~ This is an awfully optimistic view...I'm not at all sure that things would have gone that well for Ted. However, if he'd run in '72, the Kennedy name and their greater talent for running a campaign would have given Nixon a lot closer run for his money than he actually got, and he might have lost.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-08-27 14:21:37 ~ If nothing else, this post is definitely timely.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-08-27 22:14:46 ~ Re Eric Oppen's comment: As I lay it out (see my "No Chappaquiddick" thread), Kennedy is defeated in 1972, though, as you suggest, it's a closer race than it was with McGovern heading the Democratic ticket. It's in the post-Watergate 1976 election that he wins--and with no Chappaquiddick hanging over him, I don't see that as hard to believe. Carter did it, after all.

Readers Comment Gerry Shannon commented on 2009-08-30 06:03:47 ~ Just two things: 1) You do means Teddy's second term ended in 1985? 2) He's also survived by his daughter, Kara Anne Kennedy. In any case, very comprehensive, intriguing entry. :) It would be interesting too could he have forced a settlement in Northern Ireland even earlier, given his influence as one of the 'Four Horseman' in our reality.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, What if de Gaulle's insistence on liberating Paris his way lead to catastrophic consequences for post-war Europe? We explore the first chapter ('As God Made Me') of de Gaulle: The Ruler, 1945-1970 by Jean Lacouture (1985) wondering perhaps if a quite unexpected turn of events would have expelled the unwanted British and Americans from post-war continental Europe. This story was published in the January 2009 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1944, on this day the French First Army entered Paris with an assorted cortege of jeeps, half-trucks and old Citreon tractions avante led by the open car that General Charles de Gaulle insisted on using. Red Coronation Day in Paris

Preparing to declare himself the President of the Provisional Government of the French Republic in an appropriately symbolic setting, de Gaulle reached Notre-Dame Cathedral after a brief stop in front of Hotel de Ville.

For the rebuilding of French prestige, the General had demanded to lead the liberating army on Coronation Day downplaying the role of his British and Americans allies in a characteristic statement ~

"I was there of course to greet the American division passing through Paris on their way further combat, but I had in no sense asked for their help".

The General soon learnt that the Belgian Government in Exile had permitted Americans forces to liberate Brussels. Astounded by their anglo-saxon arrogance, he responded by immediately despatching General Leclerc's Free French 2nd Armoured Division to Strasbourg. Because de Gaulle quite rightly believed that the British and Americans would not leave continental Europe until they were kicked out. Events would prove this was to be the case although under a rather different set of circumstances.

Yet in his haste to re-establish an autonomous French identity, the General had overplayed his own hand. In fact, the entire Allied command structure had fatally miscalculated the sentiment in liberated Europe. As recounted by Dominique Lappiere and Larry Collins in Is Paris Burning?, de Gaulle described the scene at Notre-Dame as follows ~

"It was immediately apparent to me that this was one of those contagious shooting matches which high feelings sometimes sets off in over-excited troops on the occasion of some fortuitous or provoked incident. Nothing could be more important for me not yield to the panic of the crowd".

In Crusade in Europe, General Eisenhower later confirmed that de Gaulle refusal of American reinforcements to secure Paris cost the General his life. And within days, Eisenhower would be forced to backtrack himself, ordering an American Division to confront a new Paris Commune. All across north west Europe, the pattern would repeat itself as Operation Overlord proved both a military success and a political failure - Allied Forces were powerless to prevent European Cities being seized by Communists.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, The quotations from de Gaulle are repeated in unmodified form. In Crusade in Europe Eisenhower confirms his outrage at de Gaulle's grand-standing by requesting support from an American Division to secure Paris, having dispatched deClerc and his 2nd Armored Division to Strasbourg.


Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2008-12-28 07:04:05 ~ Generally a good article overall, not to mention quite possible, but what's this 2nd Airborne Division?

Readers Comment Zach Timmons commented on 2008-12-28 12:21:13 ~ Not too shabby. We were lucky to have De Gaulle really, in that he was ruthless against the Communists' attempts to take over post-war France.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2008-12-28 14:21:46 ~ Quite right Mr Atwell, my error, I have changed this, the 2nd Airborne Division was French, not American.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-08-30 07:46:56 ~ A Commune in 1944 doesn't work. Americans pull out and leave it to rot. City starves within a week. City's food stocks were near exhausted.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2011-08-27 16:20:14 ~ Yeah, Scott, because Communists never faced food shortages before... Anyway, I would love the irony of right-wing DeGaulle being responsible for a communization of France

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-08-27 16:31:59 ~ Hubris, could've very nearly happened.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-08-27 17:03:18 ~ De Gaulle was a PITA, but he was the best available alternative.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-08-27 17:25:20 ~ If De Gaulle were killed, there were still a lot of French Generals, such as LeClerc, with disciplined troops. Yes the commies wanted to take over, but they didn't have the guns.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-08-27 18:53:55 ~ It's ridiculous to imagine western Europe in 1944 as just ripe to fall to Communism--but in the event of "a new Paris Commune," it would in any case not have taken long for U.S. troops to smash the revolutionaries and install more suitable leaders--perhaps from the Vichy regime. Both the U.S. and the Soviets, in oour timeline, showed a willingness to put back into power in Germany former Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, after the "big fish" in their respective occupaation zones had been disposed of. Why wouldn't France have gotten similar treatment under this scenario?

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-08-28 03:03:34 ~ A healthy portion of the French resistance was Communist. Would the Allies have let the Paris Commune run the city? Probably not, but you have to consider the military situation of the moment. It was a commonly-held belief among Allied planner that they could be in Berlin by the end of 1944. Stopping to throw some Marxists out of Paris would have been small potatoes compared to what lay before the Allied armies directly to their east.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2011-08-30 14:19:04 ~ Would Roosevelt have had the sense and guts to stop them?


In 1503, following his death a week before, Pope Alexander VI was succeeded by his son Cesare Borgia who had used the Armies of the Church to establish his own principality in central Italy. The Mask
At the coronation on this day, French and Spanish allies were shocked to find Borgia trying to hide a syphilis ravaged face.
Niccolo Machiavelli was inspired to write the Mask, a thesis on the manipulation of political power for its own ends. Two episodes were particularly impressive to Machiavelli: the method by which Borgia pacified the Romagna, which Machiavelli describes in chapter VII, and Borgia's assassination of his captains on New Year's Eve of 1503 in Senigallia.
As Machiavelli noted in the introduction, for Borgia it was simply a case of "Aut Caesar aut nihil (either Caesar or nothing)".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Wikipedia ~ Though an immensely capable general and statesman, Cesare could do nothing without continued papal patronage. The news of his father's death (1503) arrived when Cesare, though gravely ill, was planning the conquest of Tuscany. While he was convalescent in Castel Sant'Angelo, his troops controlled the conclave. The new pope, Pius III, supported him, but his reign was short: the accession of the Borgias' deadly enemy Julius II caused his sudden ruin.While moving to Romagna to quench a revolt, he was seized and imprisoned by Gian Paolo Baglioni near Perugia. All his lands were acquired by the Papal States. Exiled to Spain, in 1504, he was imprisoned in the Castle of La Mota, Medina del Campo, from where he escaped and joined his brother-in-law, King John III of Navarre. In his service, Cesare died at the siege of Viana in 1507, at the age of thirty-one.




On this day in 1944, Allied reconnaissance planes flying over the shrinking Nazi occupation zone inside Belgium spotted massive troop and tank formations gathering east of the recently liberated port of Antwerp for what Allied supreme commander General Dwight Eisenhower and his senior staff rightly suspected was an impending multi-front assault on Allied defenses around the city.

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On this day in 1953, Winston Churchill, then in his second tenure as British prime minister, said that Great Britain would support the Eisenhower administration wholeheartedly in any action it sought to take in response to the Tienanmen Square massacre two days earlier.

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In 1914, on this day the Russians 2nd Army defeated the Germans in the Battle of Tannenberg, a decisive engagement which resulted in the almost complete destruction of the German 8th Army.

Inside of three weeks, the Russian Commanders of the 1st and 2nd Armies, Alexander Samsonov and Paul von Rennenkampf would enter Berlin. Such was their triumph that the Generals settled the bitter personal feud that had existed since they fought at the train station at Mukden in 1905.

Battle of - Tannenberg
Tannenberg

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Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2010-04-09 22:03:27 ~ Interesting idea. The Russian Army was operating at the time under severe organizational and logistical handicaps, but in war, anything is possible. But Berlin lay across some very wide rivers, including the Vistula and the Oder (I'll have to look that up). I don't see them easily crossing them in the face of artillery and machinegun fire. Also, the Germans had much better rail transport. The Russians needed a few more years to catch up with turntables, dual-track lines, etc.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2010-04-09 22:09:11 ~ In my own novel outline, I had the Russians stall after running out of supplies, then try to cross the Oder at Frankfurt the following spring. (The British and the French held the center while the Germans crossed at Stettin.


In 1914, the Russian First and Second Armies led by Generals Alexander Samsonov and Paul von Rennenkampf defeated a much smaller force of German troops at the Battle of Tannenberg. Despite the tactical brilliance of Colonel Max Hoffmann, the new High Command consisting of Hindenburgh and Ludendorff arrived too late to prevent the destruction of German Corps on the Eastern Front. The march on Berlin was relentless, and it would appear that nothing could now stop the Russian Steamroller.

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Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2011-08-26 12:32:58 ~ sadly, the Germans had already developed the plan they would use for the battle before Ludendorff showed up. fortunately, the plan matched what Ludendorff had in mind. Sadly, no one told Moltke this, and he freaked out and pulled troops from the western front wherer they were needed, when they wouldn't show up for the battle in time.


"I wrote the Air Force back then, asking for details about the raid on Dresden, who ordered it, how many planes did it, why they did it, what desirable results there had been and so on.

[I was told] that information was top secret still. Secret? My God ? from whom?" ~ Kurt Vonnegut speaking about the fire-bombing of Dresden, the city he described as the 'Florence of the Elbe'

Pacifist
Pacifist - Kurt Vonnegut
Kurt Vonnegut

Kurt Vonnegut was a fourth-generation German-American living in easy circumstances on Cape Cod (and smoking too much), who, as an American Infantry Scout hors de combat, as a prisoner of war witnessed the fire-bombing of Dresden.

In 1968, Kurt Vonnegut would get answers all these questions and more after he was seized by alien occupants of a flying saucer from the Planet Tralfamadore.


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In 4687, Prince Zeng-Hou of the Yang Gao colony starts using the alien Y'T'T'li as servants in his household. When they seem to pose no threat, other elected officials also begin using the Y'T'T'li in this manner. The Y'T'T'li seem to have no problem fulfilling this function, often claiming that they are born to serve.

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In 1971, fascist defector Charles Lindbergh dies at his home in Nice, France. When the Fascist Control Act was enacted, Lindbergh fled the Soviet States of America for the country that had loved him since he had been the first man to make a solo flight across the Atlantic.

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In 1968, Yippie activists manage to break into the opening ceremonies of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. In the resulting riot, Democratic presidential candidate Hubert Humphrey and 14 others are killed. The Democratic Party, in disarray, manages to convince President Lyndon Johnson to accept nomination for another term, which he narrowly wins against Republican Richard Nixon and independent challenger George Wallace.

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Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2013-01-13 22:23:29 ~ Yippies were morons, but not particularly violent.


In 1939, the first major-league Town Ball game to be televised was played at New York Stadium between the Metros and the Toledo Mudhens. Toledo won, 7-3.

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In 1933, the last patent issued to Thomas Edison is made for the Radiometric Compass, a device that allows the user to position himself on a globe using radio waves bounced off the horizon. Edison had died 2 years before the patent was issued.

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In 1883, Krakatoa, a volcano near the island of Java, was prevented from erupting by Mlosh weather-control technology, but a brief earthquake still hit the island, causing over a hundred deaths. For some reason, this concerned the vulcanologists who had stopped the eruption.

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In 698, AUC Julius Caesar attempted to add Britannia to his list of conquests. Fresh from his conquest of Gaul, he felt the island-bound Britannians would be easier, but he met with unexpectedly tough resistance from a Welsh chieftain named Artorius. Caesar was driven off the island in 704 AUC, and Britannia remained free until the 10th century AUC.

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In 1926, the flagging career of Austrian artist, Adolf Hiter, was today given a much needed boost after teenage art lover Oskar Schindler purchased a number of the young painter's works. Deemed by many as average at best, many were surprised to find so many of AH's works on Schindler's List - a list, included in his book 'Schindler's Art', of over a hundred works that he fears will be lost as the Dada movement takes hold. It is reported that this timely intervention has brought an end to the young artist's political aspirations.

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In 1914, on this day the Russians 2nd Army defeated the Germans in the Battle of Tannenberg, a decisive engagement which resulted in the almost complete destruction of the German 8th Army. Inside of three weeks, the Russian Commanders of the 1st and 2nd Armies, Alexander Samsonov and Paul von Rennenkampf would enter Berlin. Such was their triumph that the Generals settled the bitter personal feud that had existed since they fought at the train station at Mukden in 1905.

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In 1944, Charles de Gaulle marched into Paris at the head of Free French Forces. Of course this would never have been possible without the American entry into the war in 1941. Both nations bonded during Operation Torch, conquered North Africa together and then invaded the soft under belly of Europe before finally defeating Hitler in 1945. Throughout his long-life, and his Presidency, de Gaulle could never forgive perfidious albion. Lord Halifax had maintained a policy of neutrality as France stood alone, refusing even to supply de Gaulle and the Free French Forces in North Africa with arms during the hard days that followed the Battle of France.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Galla Placidia had established her leadership years earlier? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the August 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 410 AD, on this fateful day, rebellious slaves were prevented from opening the Salarian Gate to let in Chieftain Alaric's Visigoth army camped outside the imperial city.

Visigoths turned away from the gates of RomeThe city was now fully roused to the licentious fury of the tribes of Germany and Scythia. They mobilized around the leadership of former Emperor's half-sister Galla Placidia. With the Roman Senate unable to pay the besieging army to go away, and the authorities in Ravenna still unwilling to grant land to the Visigoths, they took matters into their own hands. And made a desperate last stand that brought pride and honor to the eleven hundred and sixty-three year of the city. During the struggle Alaric fell ill and died; his brother Athaulf retreated to south-west France and established his own Kingdom.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, inn reality Rome was sack and Galla Placidia taken captive, however she later married Athaulf and after his death became Empress of Rome. In authoring this article we have repurposed content from The Visigoths sack Rome published in the August 2010 Edition of History Today Magazine.


Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-12-26 10:29:48 ~ The post-Roman world certainly could have had more of a French-style twist. I wonder how Spanish, Italian and Portuguese languages might have formed? Not to mention a few others.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-12-26 15:03:04 ~ One horde down, how many more to go?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Rennenkampf's army was able to rescue Samsonov in Tannenberg? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the March 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1914, on this day the German Deputy Chief of Operations, Colonel Max Hoffmann received a new radio intercept of von Rennenkampf's most recent order for the Russian First Army to relieve General Samsonov's beleagured Second Army at Tannenberg.

Marching through East PrussiaThat the Russian Commanders would BOTH send messages in clear text was so unbelievable that his incredulous bosses refused to accept it as a statement of fact. Instead Ludendorff and Hindenburg compounded this error by rejecting Hoffman's plans, and then insisting that German I Corps under Hermann von François press ahead with the attack even before his artillery supplies arrived.

Of course von Rennenkampf and Samsonov had hated each other even before their notorious punch up on the platform of Mukden Station in 1905. But to Hoffman's private exasperation it was Ludendorff and Hindenburg who quarreled over tactics having only just met on the train en route. Ironically, Hindenburg's reactivation from retirement was a desperate measure forced upon the High Command by the panicking aristocracy of East Prussia. And worse, Hoffman's defensive plans were perfectly sound and the interference of the two Generals was not only wholly unnecessary but in fact totally counter-productive.

Fortunately for the Central Powers, the German Army Chief of Staff Helmuth von Moltke had exercised caution by taking three corps and a cavalry division from the Western front and redeploying them to East Prussia. This order was issued over the head of Ludendorff who had protested that the relief forces would arrive too late to have any effect, while at the same time weakening the German offensive through Belgium against France. Although he was right to argue that this massive redeployment threatened to undo the Schlieffen Plan, the early arrival of these Corps was now key to saving the Eastern Front from collapse.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Ludendorff and Hindenburg were skeptical that these intercepts were real. Nevertheless they were eventually convinced they were indeed real, and the plans were put into action.


Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2012-02-21 18:39:56 ~ The units were not taken from the wheel but rather from units that had been besieging now fallen Franco-Belgian fortresses. As the two key wheel armies [1st and 2nd] were in fact out of supply at the repulse on the Marne sending these troops forward would have simply choked the inadequate road net further. So what the move ruined was not the Schliffen Plan but rather the subsequent race to the sea.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-02-21 19:30:07 ~ A delay, certainly, but Germany still had great long-term strength against antiquated Russian forces. If the Russians over-extended themselves, it could easily all be undone, provided the Germans can hold the West. Two fronts, blech.

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Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-02-21 19:30:07 ~ Unless something went wrong with the defeat bof Rennenkampf and then with the battle of Tannenberg R will not get there in time to help s. The remainsof R''s army may receive a further defeat as he advances.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-02-21 23:40:36 ~ The Russians may do better, but in the long run, their shambolic system will defeat them as badly as they were in OTL. That said, I wonder what an Imperial Russian-occupied East Prussia would be like?

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2012-02-22 02:22:54 ~ As thin as the British lines were I am certain that had the forces not been taken from the west the Germans would have been able to split the English and French aries and won a huge victory. The race to the sea was not the key to victory at all it was the key to static defense that was doomed to plague the war when the Schliffen plan failed.

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2012-02-22 02:30:09 ~ Key to victory that was. Sorry the test is so small when I type this I can't see to check for mistakes till it's posted.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-02-22 15:51:33 ~ Things are going to get NAS-tay.....




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the victorious South meddled in the Reconstruction of the defeated North? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the September 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1866, with the US Congress in Philadelphia deeply divided between Free Soil Republicans and Southern sympathizing Tory Democrats the debate over the Reconstruction Programme in the North entered a new phase with the reports of armed clashes in New Mexico between drifting Confederate and settled black Union Veterans.

Bloody New Mexico
By Ed, Armand A. Ruhlman, Jeff Provine and Scott Palter
A huge northward exodus of African Americans had begun almost immediately after the signature of the "Two Americas" peace settlement that followed the Southern occuptation of Washington City.

But in the event many parts of the rural and small city North simply banned Freedmen or chased out newcomers. Because the dreadful truth was that much of the North had objected to slavery because they objected to white men having to compete with black labor.

Increased African American representation added a new dimension to the 1866 Congressional elections and the result was a deeply divided governing class that could only seem to agree on the need to prevent the "Second Birth of the Nation" ending in tragedy.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this post we explore an idea raised by Facebook User Armand A. Ruhlman: fascinating question re: the south winning the war - the loosing north probably would have done something similar to what the loosing south did - the loosing side would have waged resistance in whatever way possible - both visible and secretive - both legal and illegal - political, social, cultural, etc. - in fact, the south is still waging war against the north - just look at the rightward drift of the country toward a military-dictatorship styled corporate oligarchy that basically calls the tunes - Peace -


Readers Comment Allen W. McDonnell commented on 2011-08-25 10:14:33 ~ This one is just silly, the whole purpose of reconstruction was to reintegrate the Confederate states into the whole of the United states. If the Confederacy had won independence then there wouldn't be anything for them to Reconstruct, there would have been two separate countries.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-08-25 12:03:46 ~ I must disagree. In this timeline, a shrunken USA would have had to adjust to the loss of roughly a third of its territory, including access to the mouth of the Mississipi, and fend off potential additional secessions in the wake of its defeat. Quite likely there would have been a huge postwar economic crash (there was a majoor depression in the 1870s anyway, following the stock-market and banking "panic" of 1873). "Reconstruction" in this TL would have had a different meaning, that's all.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2011-08-25 12:11:43 ~ Presume the US lets Dixie go. One the basics of the war was an asymetry of interest - secession mattered more to more Southerners than Union did to most Unionists. This always partially cancelled out the disparity in power. So somewhere between 1862-64 the Union loses the will to continue the war. That leaves millions of contraband blacks and Dixie Tory whites on the wrong side of the eventual border. So as the blue armies come north these people must be moved to somewhere that stays in the Union, resettled etc. Hence Reconstruction.

Readers Comment Bruce Johnson commented on 2011-08-25 12:39:39 ~ OK, perhaps we can talk about the postwar policy of the winning side. Unfortunately, the TERM "reconstruction" cannot possibly be applied to a Confederate victory. The term was used from early 1861 (often forgotten) to speak of the RESTORING of relations of states within the Union. So by definition, this term cannot be used.// But what's especially confusing about this entry is the failure to lay out what actually happened to SLAVERY in the South (and new territories). There is mention of freedmen, esp. of blacks in the Union army, but how does that all fit in on this scenario?

Readers Comment Bruce Johnson commented on 2011-08-25 12:45:25 ~ Actually, a more serious objection is to the editorial note's silly (and frankly offensive) slap against conservatives as pushing toward "a military-dictatorship" blah blah blah. Let's try to leave our own current Left/Right politics (and esp caricatures of 'the other side') out of this. In any case, Southern resistance to Reconstruction (leading to the VERY much misnamed 'redemption' of these states) is hardly the same thing as current Southern political trends, and the attempt to tar the latter (glad at least you didn't add "racist") as of a piece with the hateful, murderous anti-Reconstruction efforts of past generations is unwarranted and certainly unhelpful.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-08-25 15:45:24 ~ The sad truth is that the Klan was strongest in places like Iowa and Indiana. West would be the only hope for Freedmen if negative feelings of a lost war were coupled with the racism of the time. Might give credence to Malcolm X's separatist ideals a century later (provided he's not butterflied out).

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2011-08-25 16:52:09 ~ Klan strength in Indiana and Iowa not until 1920s.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if George Wallace succeeded as LBJ as Confederate President in the Two Americas timeline? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1919, on this day the twentieth President of the Confederate States George Corley Wallace, Jr. was born in Clio, Alabama.

George C. Wallace, Jr.
20th Confederate President
March 4, 1969 - 1975
Wallace served as the 45th governor of Alabama (1964-1968) before his election as 20th president of the Confederate States of America. He would go on to return to politics as associate justice of the CS Supreme Court, having been nominated by president John Connally in 1982.

Wallace would be best remembered for his efforts for the Nationalist cause which successfully forestalled efforts toward reunification of the Americas for over thirty years. The continued policies of segregation, bordering on racism, were linked to Nationalism due to the concurrence of the Civil Rights Movement in the Confederacy. However, historians have argued, based on Wallace's years as a NAACP supported judge, that Wallace was truly just in favor of separate and equal segregation. These historians hold that the true cause that drove the man was the continuance of the CSA as a "separate and equal" nation. Wallace's subsequent years on the Supreme Court would bear out the truth of these suppositions. A new article from the "Two Americas" thread on Althistory Wikia

Significant international achievements during Wallace's time in Richmond included an end to the Nicaraguan war that had waged since insurgencies in the mid-1950's, and the completion of the manned missions to the moon. In the midst of his term, he was nearly killed by an assassin's bullet while campaigning on behalf of Nationalist party candidates for the Senate in 1972. As a result of the attempt, Wallace would be wheel-chair bound for the rest of his life. Upon leaving Richmond, Wallace would join the board of the Confederate Cancer Society in the wake of his wife's death to the disease during his campaign for president. He would remain unmarried the rest of his life, being an advocate for Cancer research even after joining the Supreme Court in 1982.
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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-03-24 02:44:11 ~ I have wondered sometimes what a Wallace presidency would have been like...and after _Braveheart,_ sometimes pictured him in blue woad and plaid, wielding a greatsword.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-03-24 16:50:14 ~ A much-hailed president, though I'm sure far more paternalist than our modern society can stomach.

Facebook Comment Comment from Mike McIlvain on Facebook: Still some deep feelings about such things in some places. This scenario might not have ever happened, however. A few historians believe there might have been a second revolt against the elite of the CSA, if they had won the war, because of so much class division at the time.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Hawaii was declared a colony of France? muses Jeff Provine on This Day in Alternate History Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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By 1849, the Hawaiian Islands had increasing connections with the outside world following its discovery by the Englishman Captain James Cook (pictured) in 1778. Known as the Sandwich Isles for some time, Europeans and Americans would make visits for trade on the islands and some to create permanent settlements.

Hawaii Declared Colony of FranceIn 1817, Russians had come to retrieve stolen goods and forced a treaty upon Chief Kaumuali'i of the island of Kauai to establish three Russian forts there. More significant, however, were the missionaries who settled the various islands and worked with natives. As missionaries began to intersect, their differing dogma caused issues between them. Gradually, the Protestant missionaries convinced the king to make Catholicism illegal, causing the imprisonment of Catholic natives and deportation of foreign priests.

In 1839, the French came to the island to defend Catholics' religious freedom. They threatened war, but Kamehameha III staved off battle with the Edict of Toleration allowing some rights to Catholics and paying $20,000 in compensation for damages. Still, Catholics were not given full rights, and, in 1849, French Admiral Louis Tromelin learned about the persecution as well as tariffs against French goods while in harbor at Honolulu. Tromelin drew up a list of grievances and had them delivered to Kamehameha on August 22.

By the 25th, there had been no reply to demands. Feeling that Hawaii must be made safe for French interests, Tromelin decided to seize control of the island nation. With 140 marines, cannon, and a few Hawaiian sympathizers, Tromelin stormed the palace and captured Kamehameha. Riots broke out over Oahu, but generations of plague and the superiority of European weapons stopped the populace from overthrowing the French. Tromelin had marginal control for a few months until reinforcements arrived from Tahiti and France and a more formal colonial government was established. Following the Crimean War, the French also legally controlled the island of Kauai, occupying Russian forts.

Gerrit Judd, an American physician and missionary, left for Paris to plead for the overthrow of Tromelin's action. However, with the testimonies of Admiral Tromelin and William Patrice Dillon, Consult to Hawaii, France decided to uphold the conquest. Over the next years, Hawaii would become an important Pacific port as well as grounds for sugar and fruit plantations. While American businessmen would seek to purchase Hawaii in the 1890s, the French would remain stalwart on the islands.

With the coming of World War II, France would fall to Hitler, and Hawaii would be under the control of Vichy France. In 1940, Japan made agreements with the French to establish bases on the islands, mostly on the Big Island of Hawaii. On December 7, 1941, Japanese fleets would use Hawaii as one of many starting points for a combined force that attacked Midway Island, bringing the United States into the war. From that point, Hawaii would be used as the farthest eastern Japanese military port, launching submarine patrols harassing the American West Coast.

Americans struck back with the bloody Invasion of Hawaii in November of 1943. Throughout the war, liberated Hawaii served as a key base for the Americans and other Allies. When the war was over, Hawaii was granted its independence for the first time in a century, though the Americans signed leases to continue a small airbase north of Pearl Harbor to make up for what was lost at Midway.

Today, Hawaii is a secure republic and leader among the Pacific islands. Its economy is based on tourism from America as well as Japan, despite its lack of first world comforts because of limited political support.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality, Tromelin only raided Honolulu instead of seizing control. He destroyed government offices and pillaged a few goods, then returned to the French fort, leaving by September 5. Hawaii would maintain independence until 1897 when it was annexed by the United States after the kingdom had been toppled in 1894.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-08-25 14:25:55 ~ What happens to French Indochina in this ATL?

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-25 16:37:47 ~ Hm, good question. I'd think it'd be fairly the same as OTL. Perhaps less Japanese WWII influence as they turn eastward, though.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-25 17:52:45 ~ Given Hawaii's position, would/could whoever held what's now the US West Coast tolerate France holding it?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-08-26 01:04:05 ~ I'd figure it wouldn't be a matter of "tolerating" a French Hawaii, if it were already a fait accompli. What happens to Hawaii in this timeline after the fall of France to the Nazis is more problematical. Would Japan really have bothered negotiating with the French instead of trying to do a deal with Berlin directly? And would the Germans have agreed? They might have had uses of their own for a foothold in the Pacific. Hawaii might have become a sore point between the Axis partners.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-26 15:14:02 ~ An additional thought might be American invasion in the expansionist 1890s, perhaps even trumping war with Spain to be France instead.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Harold Wilson really a spy? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1974, on this day thousands of people crowded the heart of London to pay their final respects to slain British prime minister Harold Wilson as his casket was driven through the streets of the British capital prior to his memorial service at Westminster Cathedral.Pinnacle by Chris OakleyThat same day Wilson's KGB handlers, shaken by their contact's untimely demise and fearing their other agents in Britain might have been compromised, ordered all remaining Soviet intelligence personnel in the UK to go to ground immediately.


Classified documents released by the Russian government after the collapse of the Soviet Union would reveal Wilson's handlers had just cause for alarm; three days before the British prime minister's assassination a KGB defector code-named "Pinnacle" by MI-6 had given British intelligence highly detailed and credible reports Wilson was preparing to escape to the Soviet Union before anyone could arrest him for his espionage activities. The information provided by "Pinnacle" enabled British police to arrest hundreds of Soviet agents and forced dozens more to flee the UK.


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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-07-31 00:53:51 ~ Wilson a Soviet agent? That one needs a back story, because even as an American i know enough about Harold Wilson to find it hard to swallow him as a stooge of the Kremlin.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-07-31 02:30:48 ~ If the Sovs had had such a high-ranking agent, we'd all be speaking Russian.

Readers Comment Michael Balikoff commented on 2010-07-31 05:36:54 ~ As an Australian I think this is a ploy or a "IF" story Harold Wilson died of a heart attack, true, he did have his service in the Westminster Cathedral as with all past Prime Ministers but let us consider would Royalty, Parliament or the Brits in common allow a "spy" this honour ....laughable but make good talking point, I'm amused with this!!!!




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the British and French Governments had dropped the worthless Polish Security Guarantee? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1939, on this day the House of Commons witnessed scenes of uproar which were surely without precedent since the English Civil War.

Countdown to War Part 2: Speak for EnglandThe Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs Lord Halifax revealed that it was infeasible for the British and French Governments to assist the beleagured Poles repel the German military which was even now massing on their border. And having re-evaluated the bleak prospects for such a misadventure, a logical decision had now been reached in London and Paris to allow the Polish security guarantee to "lapse".

Privately, Halifax was confident that Mr Hitler had "no plan or blueprint for world conquest". In fact the Swedish businessman Birger Dahlerus was acting as a freelance diplomat, and progress towards a framework agreement had already been made. The outcome would be the so-called "Munich II" Conference in which the Polish Corridor was returned to Germany along with the Port of Danzig.

"You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war"A cross party census was formed by Hawks and Doves alike. With Clement Attlee recovering from an operation, acting Labour leader Arthur Greenwood was given the impossible task of speaking on behalf of Her Majesty's Opposition, which was itself deeply divided. From the Conservative back benches Leo Amery cried "Speak for England, Arthur!" Only the previous year, his late colleague Winston Churchill had prophetically stated "You were given the choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war". But at least for now, more dishonour had been chosen.


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Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-09-20 20:20:53 ~ The British had no army and were dependent on the French. The French mobilization scheme gave them no army for 15 days [the active divisions were disolved on mobilization and everyone shuttled around to create three divisions for every active one]. They then needed months to train these divisions up to some level of military quality. Even then ...

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-09-20 20:20:55 ~ Actually the West is better off. Their rearment was only coming on line slowly in 1939. By late 1940 they catch up to Germany in air strength. By 1941 they catch up in quality of aircraft as well.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-09-20 20:20:55 ~ Issue isn't nerve [THAT is a separate debate]. Fact is the UK made a decision post-WW1 that they simply were never going to do massive continental war again and accordingly built a military for imperial missions and sea control. UK's financial position was a mess and it was cheaper this way. France in turn built an army around the unwillingness ... Read Moreof the French public to spend a lot of time on active duty [military service was cut to two year and then 18 months before arriving at 12 months]. At the same time they refused to fund a regular cadre any larger than Germany was allowed under Versailles. Net effect was an army that would need two weeks to mobilize and then be useless for months after at anything more complex than positional defense. These decisions were made when Germany was prostrate and financial/political concerns trumped future security threats. It then proved politically difficult to change this in the mid-30's when Hitler kicked over the traces of Versailles. Real rearment did not get started until 1937-38. It was still getting rolling in 1939. This is how the UK could lose a campaign and have more tanks and planes at the end than at the beginning.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-09-21 01:34:50 ~ This would have headed off WWII, at least as we know it. Poland lying between the then-allies Germany and the USSR as it did, without the British and French guarantees they'd have known that the jig was up, and likely handed back the Corridor and Danzig.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-09-21 01:55:48 ~ Chamberlain's reputation would be in even worse shape than it is in OTL.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2009-09-21 01:58:21 ~ Mr. Oakley has the key point. The West went to war for Chamberlain to avoid having a confidence vote that he would possibly lose.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-09-21 02:10:59 ~ I suspect that Poland will go the same way as Czechoslovakia regardless of what's in this Munich II

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-09-21 13:22:09 ~ "Without the British and French guarantees, [Poland] would have known that the jig was up, and likely handed back the Corridor and Danzig"--and then, on some pretext or other, Hitler would have invaded anyway. He needed to do so to get ready to attack Russia, which--despite the pact of 1939--he intended to do sooner or later. The Molotov-Ribbentrop agrement was simply an effort on both sides to buy time for further military buildup.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2009-09-21 14:18:17 ~ Interesting Eric my assumption was that Poland like Czechoslovakia wanted Hitler beaten even if they had to survive an occupation. So I had assumed they would fight anyway having nothing to lose, and after Munich, no confidence in handing over the Polish Corridor. The Free City of Danzig was run by the League of Nations so I believe that wasnt in their gift. I think the Poles would have fought. Also, they had the Enigma Codes so perhaps would have tried to bargain with Stalin perhaps? Like our July 27th story.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-02-22 16:39:30 ~ I wonder how Stalin would handle a one-front, full-brunt war with Hitler. It might've been the end of the Soviets in 1943.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the British had executed Madison in additon to burning down the White House? We're grateful as always to Mr Eric Lipps for his input on this post. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1814, on this day Elbridge Gerry (pictured) was promptly sworn in as the fifth President of the United States after receiving confirmation of the untimely and tragic death of James Madison at Bladensburg, Maryland. Fleeing the burning capital, Madison had been arrested and subsequently executed as a "traitor to the crown" by the invading British troops who had just torched the White House.

Mr. Madison's War, Part 2 by Ed & Eric LippsSeeking to exploit the atrocious murder of a democratically elected Head of State, Gerry immediately issued an appeal to Britain's traditional enemes. Not only France but also Spain and the Netherlands would view this request as an opportunity to recapture territory lost since Great Britain's stupendous victory in the French-Indian War of 1763, itself a cause of the War of Independence that followed thirteen years later.

Despite this diplomatic "gerry-mandering" and with some justification, Great Britain still held high hopes of recolonising the eastern seaboard whilst holding on to British Canada. Because on November 13th, Gerry would himself die of heart failure, throwing the American government into fresh chaos.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-08-12 19:42:14 ~ This whole situation would throw the perfume into the soup for fair. I have no idea how it would turn out---but Madison's bloody shirt would be a bar to peaceful relations with the UK for generations, if I'm any judge.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-08-12 22:30:24 ~ The problem with the Spanish here is that they're a British ally. Both have been fighting the French ever since Napoleon sent troops across the border in 1807 so that Napoleon could put his brother on the Spanish Throne. Also the Dutch are still recovering, from the Napoleonic Wars, not to mention the French themselves, even through they made one last hurrah under Napoleon's 100 Days. Furthermore none of them have a navy to threaten the RN.


In 1940, the Imperial Government of Japan demanded and received the right to place Vietnam under military occupation, restricting the local French administration to figurehead authority.Old EuropeSeizing the opportunity, the Communists organized the broad Viet Minh Front and prepared to launch an uprising at the war's end. The Viet Minh (short for Viet Nam Doc Lap Dong Minh, or League for the Independence of Vietnam) emphasized moderate reform and national independence rather than specifically Communist aims. When the Japanese surrendered to the Allies in August 1945, Viet Minh forces arose throughout Vietnam and declared the establishment of an independent republic in Hanoi.
Now the Vietnamese and the French shared the common experience of resistance to a fascist occupier. Matters had moved far ahead from the refusal at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference to hear Ho Chi Minh's case for self-determination.
France quickly developed a very independent foreign policy to Anglo-America, demonstrated as recently as 2003 when President Chirac opposed the invasion of Iraq. Bizarrely, Anglo-America described the French's anti-imperialism as the views of 'Old Europe'. Figure that one out.


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On this day in 1944, Polish Home Army leader Thadeusz Bor-Komorowski sent Polish Communist Party chief Wladislaw Gomulka a message warning that any attempt to impose Marxist rule on Poland would be sternly resisted-- by armed force if necessary.

This touched off a diplomatic crisis among the Allied powers that only protacted and delicate closed-door negotiations managed to defuse; even then, there remained noticeable tension between the Communist and non-Communist elements of the Polish anti-Nazi resistance movement.

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In 1814, the second war of independence ended in ignominy when Washington, D.C. was burned to the ground and the White House destroyed by British forces during the War of 1812. Arthur Wellesley immediately began the construction of the modern city of Wellington, residence of the Governor-General of the North American Union which bestrides the Potomac River to this day. It was the start of a new phase in the special relationship for Anglo-America.

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In 1945, an increasingly desperate American military drop the fourth nuclear bomb, "Tall Boy" on Tokyo.

Surely, this would forces the Emperor of Tokyo to accept unconditional surrender as inevitable.

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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-08-25 22:59:08 ~ I've read that the U.S. governmnet was prepared to go on dropping A-bombs on Japan, if necessary, until the Home Islands' population had been entirely exterminated. Whether or not President Truman would have gone that far, polls taken during the war indicated significant support (as much as 14 percent) for exterminating the Japanese, and the Japanese themselves had been told through their country's military propaganda that this was the fate awaiting them if they lost.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-08-25 23:01:48 ~ If they dropped an A-BOmb on Tokyo, there probably isn't an Emperor left to surrender...


In 1814, Washington, D.C. is burned and White House is destroyed by British forces under the Duke of Wellington. Ostensibly a revenge attack for the destruction of Yorktown (modern day Toronto), the Duke wanted to stamp British authority as he turned the clock back to 1775. The new city of Victoria was built upon ruins of DC and is of course today the residence of the Governor General of New Britain.

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Handmaid

A group of people is coming towards us. They're tourists from Saudi Arabia it looks like, on a tour of the historic landmarks of Cambridge, Massachusetts or out for the local colour. They're diminutive and neatly turned out in burqas.

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts and not to display their adornment except that which ordinarily appears thereof and to draw their headcovers over their chests and not to display their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands fathers, their sons". ~ Qu'ran Sura 24:31

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Offred

Excuse me,' said the interpreter again, to catch our attention. I nod to show I've heard him. 'She asks, are you happy?'. I can imagine it, the curiosity: Are they happy? How can they be happy?

'Yes, we are very happy, ' I murmur. I have to say something. What else can I say?'

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I went back in time the other day. It was quite an interesting experience. I almost prevented the birth of Hitler, and was an inch away from saving Martin Luther King. And, by the way, it was Oswald, and he was the only gunman. I can say that without fear of contradiction.
I'm not supposed to interfere, but you can't help yourself, really. After all, what's the point of going back if you're not going to try to change things? Time travel is the ultimate wish fulfillment. If you go back far enough, and you know enough, you can be a god.
Marcus had wanted to do that; be a god. He told me that he could bring a few gadgets with him, set up shop in Mesopotamia or someplace like that, and he would never have to worry about anything ever again. I reminded him that modern conveniences like hologames, running water and vaccinations might be missed by someone playing the god for the primitive locals, but he says that he could tough it out. I doubt it.
But, he's been gone for a while now, and I don't think he's coming back. The world hasn't come crashing down around us, so whatever changes he's made, I assume that they've already been taken into account in the time stream. I hope.
That's what we all hope, really. Everybody involved in the project has got to hope that we can't really change the past, at least not in a way that will destroy the present. If we can, then somebody's going to screw us all up any day now.
Maybe they already have.
There are a lot of paradoxes in this line of work, and you really just have to get used to them. I mean, if you try to grasp each set of contradictions that you bring up just by appearing in the past, you'd spend all your time sitting around confused instead of doing something. And that's not very productive.
My main area of focus is on historical accuracy in textbooks. I was the one who got to correct all the assassination buffs who?ve been living on JFK rumors for decades. That was my masterpiece; seventeen cameras along a one mile patch of road in old Dallas. Conclusive proof that the only shots came from the book depository, there was nobody on the grassy knoll, and I got a really good close-up of Lee Harvey himself squeezing the trigger. How they howled. I've now been labeled part of the conspiracy.

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On this day in 1941, Japanese bombers attacked the Soviet Pacific seaport of Vladivostok, destroying at least half the Soviet navy's Pacific fleet in one fell swoop.

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In 1991, a wan Mikhail Gorbachev returns from his Crimean captivity. Technically, he has been restored to power. In practice, however, Boris Yeltsin, who has exploited his role in the failure of the military coup to gather power in his own hands, has become the effective master of the Soviet Union. Ironically, it will prove a fleeting prize.

In the United States, President Jack Kemp issues a statement praising the defeat of the August 18 coup and the return of Gorbachev, touching off another round of rage on the right. The following day, several conservative senators and Wall Street Journal editorial writer John Fund meet with Patrick Buchanan to discuss his running for the White House in 1992.

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Mikhail Gorbachev

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On this day in 1953, President Dwight D. Eisenhower blasted the Soviet and Chinese governments for their actions in the Tienanmen Square massacre the previous day.    

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In 4691, monarchist Liu Wu was arrested at the home he had been hiding at in the eastern province of Lakota. Wu had been bombing voting precincts throughout the furthest regions of the Chinese Empire, and was imprisoned for life after he was caught.

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In 1994, Margaritaville singer Jimmy Buffet was killed when his plane flipped after takeoff from a small airport in Nantucket. In tribute to the man who had made the drink famous, all Margaritas in America were free on the day of his funeral.

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In 1950, President Truman's daughter, Margaret, releases her jazz album, Swingin' the White House, which she recorded with the Jimmy Dorsey Orchestra. It is a surprise hit, critically as well as commercially, and Miss Truman follows it up with 10 solid albums before retiring in 1977.

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