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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Battle of Jutland had been an overwhelming Kaiserliche Marine victory? muses Eric Oppen. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1841, Admiral of the Fleet John Arbuthnot "Jacky" Fisher, 1st Baron Fisher of Kilverstone was born on this day in Ramboda, Ceylon (present day Sri Lanka).

Birth of Jackie Fisher, ReduxHe had a huge influence on the Royal Navy in a career spanning more than 60 years, starting in a navy of wooden sailing ships armed with muzzle-loading cannon and ending in one of steel-hulled battlecruisers, submarines and the first aircraft carriers. The argumentative, energetic, reform-minded Fisher is often considered the second most important figure in British naval history, after Lord Nelson.

He finally retired aged seventy, but was recalled three years later on the outbreak of the Great War becoming First Sea Lord again in November 1914. In this post, he argued bitterly with Winston Churchill, an erratic politician in the office of the First Lord of the Admiralty. Matters came to a head when Fisher rejected Churchill's crazed plan for a full frontal assault on the Dardanelles. Instead, he proposed a bold assault on the Baltic.

However this alternative plan never saw fruition either. Because on 31st May 1916, the Royal Navy suffered a catastrophic defeat at the Battle of Jutland. Submersed German U-boats had been waiting for the Grand Fleet, and their capital ships were sunk even before the German surface fleet got a chance to fire its own shots.


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Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2013-01-26 05:19:28 ~ Would the Kriegsmarine have ruled the waves after an overwhelming German victory at Jutland? I've often wondered what the outcome would have been had that been the case.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-01-26 06:40:09 ~ They did say that Fisher was the only person who could _lose_ the war for Britain in an afternoon.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-01-26 09:28:26 ~ There is a simple answer. A negotiiated peace. The french would scream Albion La Perfide and the Russians would be relieved at being no longer under pressure to continue the war, but peace negotiations would brea kout. The Great War 1914-16.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-01-26 15:27:23 ~ As it's 1916 I don't think there would have been a Russian Revolution - a great deal of presterdigitation to place by Western governments trying to induce a revolution to replace the "reactionary" regime of Nicholas with a Liberal one that would prosecute the war more efficiently and by Nicholas' government itself trying to provke disturbances so those opposed to his government could be removed. The Duke of Hesse,the Czarina's brother, would just turn up in St. p to arrange an armistice, as he is rumoure to have done in OTL to try and negotiate a peace. It is more difficult than is thought to arrange a successful mass attack by U-boats as the Grand Fleet races past escoted by allits cruisers and destroyers,but they could do some damage to the battlecruisers as they came out of the Firth of Forth. But with a more bold commander, different manoevres and getting tothe east of the Grand Fleet a different outcome, though not an overwhelming British defeat , was possible given ourdifficulties in shell design,armour and shell handling. Above all clear weather for spotting by the zeppelins, which were present but prevented from doing so by cloud. See The Battle of Jutland by George Bonney 2006. I.m afraid Jackie Fisher would never recover. For the possibilities go to the AH story LETTERSTIME on the net. It's a good read even if you disagree with its conclusions.

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2013-01-27 04:05:55 ~ Most of the German battleships and battlecruisers in use at the time of Jutland were short-ranged vessels in comparison to their British counterparts. I mean this not just in terms of range, but even such logistical concerns as berthing space. Many German ships' crews lived in barracks ashore when their ship was in port, something that was unheard of in any other blue water navy of the day. This is significant because, I believe, it would have kept Germany from capitalizing on a victory at Jutland. German control of the North Sea (and we're assuming it could maintain that control) might result in a longer war, but I believe the outcome would have been the same. The changes in England, however, would have been radical and long-lasting. The Mahanian worship of concentrated big iron might have been abandoned, out of necessity if nothing else. This would have resulted in two things: increased funding for a larger and more effective sub force and greater acceptance of the aircraft carrier, a technology the British invented. Now move forward a generation to 1939-1941. Imagine a Royal Navy able to establish fighter air superiority over large parts of Germany from the first day of the war because of a first-class carrier fleet protected by a fleet of modern submersibles. And imagine British possessions in Asia protected not by battlecruisers a generation old, but modern carrier groups. It's my fantasy, leave me in peace ;-)

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-01-27 20:52:34 ~ It would not. It would be Negotiated Peace time. If the blockade of the North Sea is in doubt the German battlecruisers can break out and the supply of Britain would be in doubt. There would also be an invasion scare second to none. Supply of the armies in Flanders could be threatened. The german fleet would be free to cover landings of German armies in Finland - the move to end the war in the East - which would be free to march on St.P., threatening it. ,



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Battle of Jutland had been an overwhelming Royal Navy victory? muses Dirk Puehl. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1841, British Admiral Jackie Fisher was born on this day in Ramboda, Ceylon (present day Sri Lanka).
This post was written by Dirk Puehl the highly recommended author of #onthisday #history Google+ posts.

Birth of Jackie FisherDirk writes - "Chatfield, there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today", Admiral Beatty said to his flag captain when one of his battlecruisers after the other blew up under the fire of Hipper's Schlachtkreuzer during the Battle of Jutland. On Jacky Fisher's 172th birthday the question might suggest itself - what if Fisher did not pursue his concept of "Battlecruisers" in the early 1900s.

Whatever made Sir John "Jacky" Fisher reconsider his plan of fast and heavy armed, but weak-armoured warships with speed as their best protection, it seemed to leave Great Britain in a decisively weak position at the outbreak of the Great War in August 1914.

Not only had the Royal Navy to rely on large armoured cruisers to protect the long trade lines of the Empire and the German Admiral von Spee's squadron's consisting of the two battlecruisers "Moltke" and "Goeben" that broke through into the Pacific and later the Indian Ocean gave them quite a headache until they were finally brought to bay by the Imperial Japanese Navy.

However, Fisher had an ace up his sleeve with his "New Model Fleet". Following up from the design of HMS Dreadnought in 1906, he pursued the design of the liquid (i.e. oil) fuelled "Fast Battleship" type with a vengeance. But even though Fisher predicted the outbreak of the war with Germany for August 1914, his chef d'oeuvre and swan song, the "Nelson"-class were not ready for action at that time.

Mid-1915, HMS "Nelson", the type ship, and her sisters "St Vincent", "Collingwood" and "Howe" were ready for sea, the other four followed in spring 1916. Their superior design, speed, armour and armament paid off on May 31st when Jellicoe's "Grand Fleet" and the German "Hochseeflotte" met off Jutland.

Commanded by David Beatty, the "New Model Fleet" squadron matched Admiral Hipper's battlecruisers in speed, while their 6'' deck and 14'' midships' armour protected them from critical hits by German 12'' shells, while their new 16'' guns quickly broke their enemy's resistance. Joining Jellicoe's main battle afterwards, Beatty and his new fast battleships played a decisive role in making the Battle of Jutland an overwhelming Royal Navy victory.

What followed was that the remains of the German Hochseeflotte remained bottled up in their harbours until the end of the war, January 25th 1918, that was brought about (among other reasons) by the tight British naval blockade that could not even been broken by the German U-boat offensive.?


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Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-01-25 12:12:49 ~ The problemhere is this willonly workif "jackie" Fisher does not become First Sea Lord in1904 - a new title created specially for him. He was appointed tosolve te problemthat the fleet could not be everywhere at once and proposed todoes sothrough speed - the fleet would be concentrate in home waters and squadrons rushed out tothe rest of the owrld as required. If Britain does not build battlecruiser,no one else will,including Imperia Germany. By 1912 they were saing the fast baleshipwas the correct solution - but in the conditions and technical conditions on the 1900's this would have only been possible by safricies of protection - youcouldn't have all three of speed,fiepower and protection without having an enormous ship. As it was we had the fast battleships in the form of the Queen Elizabeths which did join the battlecruisers at Jutland. If Imperial germany builds fast battleships they will sacrife speed and firepower for protection and we will be back where we started - I think it would have forced the Germans to move to the 14 inch gun.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2013-01-25 14:16:16 ~ A decisive German defeat at Jutland could have hastened the collapse of the Hohenzollern dynasty.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-01-25 15:54:05 ~ Could have spared some lives at the front, too, if the war ended all the earlier.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-01-26 01:37:16 ~ Doesn't look like history changed all that much.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Herbert Hoover had been assassinated by Argentine anarchists? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1860, on this day 31st President of the United States Charles Curtis (picture) was born in Topeka, Kansas Territory prior to its admission as a state.

Birth of Charles CurtisHe was a United States Representative, a longtime United States Senator from Kansas later chosen as Senate Majority Leader by his Republican colleagues, and the 31st Vice President-elect of the United States (Curtis ran for Vice-President with Herbert Hoover as President in 1928. They won a landslide victory).

Cruel fate intervened when President-elect Hoover was killed in December 1928. During a seven week tour of Latin American, Argentine anarchists led by Severino Di Giovanni blew up the railroad car in which he was travelling.

Ironically, the purpose of the tour was to explain his economic and trade policies to other nations in the Western hemisphere. Because less than nine months into his term of office, President Curtis was confronted with the Wall Street Crash.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2013-01-15 15:03:05 ~ If Hoover had been whacked, that would have made for some pretty interesting butterflies re: the Falklands.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2013-01-15 15:33:44 ~ Curtis once summed up as "elderly,conservative and dull."Would presumably have done less than Hoover to counter Depression.

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2013-01-15 16:23:56 ~ So little is known about Curtis, that it is a tough call to say where things might have fallen, but what about in appointees during Hoover's administration? He appointed a number of judges during his term, but he also had some obscure ties to China that might have been important had anyone seen the picture into the long run, and motivated him, or someone then, to plant roots for eventual economic growth.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-01-15 16:27:08 ~ Ties to China might get the US more deeply involved after the Japanese invasion. WWII in the Pacfic all the earlier.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2013-01-15 18:34:01 ~ Curtisvilles - has a nice ring to it

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-01-15 20:52:47 ~ Maybe we wouldn't have had the Hooverite attempts to counter the Depression which, ramped up-to-eleven by FDR (may whose bones burn forever green) extended it for so long? A lot of people forget that it was Hoover who started what became known as the "New Deal." And Curtis might also have been more open to modification or repeal of the "Noble Experiment."

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2013-01-15 22:55:09 ~ Re Eric Oppen, it's a myth that FDR's New Deal extended the Depression. Conservatives would have you believe that in March 1933 America was just reembling on the edge of a booming rebound and FDR spoiled it all, but they present no evidence; they just assume it HAS to be so, for isn't God a capitalist?



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if MacArthur had declared himself Japanese Dictator? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1880, on this day Douglas MacArthur, American general and Medal of Honor recipient was born in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Birth of General-sanIn 1925 made the youngest major general the in US Army, proved his military record in World War II with a 30:1 kill ratio against the Japanese as well as being awarded a Medal of Honor, multiple distinguished service medals on land, sea, and air, and two purple hearts. When the war ended, he was given the title Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers and ordered to oversee the Occupation of Japan. He drafted a new constitution in 1946 that became ratified the following year, reformed land ownership to put millions of acres into the hands of owner-operators, and reorganized and rebuilt the nation's industry as a peacetime leader.

One of his most significant moves was to recommend immunity to Japanese scientists such as those in the infamous Unit 731 who conducted human experiments. In exchange for their information (which would remain secret), the doctors would not be tried for crimes against humanity. Rather than handing the data on biological weapons over to the United States government, he kept the information to himself, an action believed to be the first on his road to megalomania.

A new article by Jeff ProvineIn 1948, MacArthur was among those put forth for the Republican nomination for the presidency. Democrats had held the White House since 1932, and it seemed like a good chance to bring about needed post-war change. When MacArthur lost to Dewey, who in turn lost to Truman, he became despondent about his homeland. Meanwhile, the great changes he had made to Japan continued, and he began to focus more on his life in Japan.

MacArthur became unruly in the eyes of Washington as he too-often traded out military personnel, eventually creating a power structure completely loyal to him. He had won over the respect of the Japanese with his land reforms and encouragement of trade unions in the new industry, creating grassroots support. Censorship boards, which MacArthur began to direct personally, equated all good news with himself and bad news with other American figures. When President Truman called for MacArthur's removal, he refused and pronounced himself dictator of Japan. His title became Gaijin Shogun ("foreign military ruler"), and he stated that any threat to remove him would be met with military-grade biological weapons cultivated from Unit 731's experiments.

Americans balked, but war-weariness caused them to leave him as MacArthur allowed any of the 30,000 Americans stationed in Japan to evacuate peacefully. Much of the military equipment had "disappeared" into MacArthur's personal army's hands, leaving no paper record to prove claims for return of American materiel. After obligatory reorganization and crackdown, MacArthur sealed the Japanese borders with rearmed fishing vessels, allowing trade only through approved channels.

Until 1964, Japan was an isolated state controlled by rationing and fear of MacArthur's release of plagues. Sanctions were placed on the nation, but they only contributed to the seclusion. International forces reacting to the Korean War were believed to be staging for a campaign of liberation, but as the war became stalemated, the idea was never explored. Instead, for fifteen years, Japan returned to a feudal period and did not return to the world scene until MacArthur died and his son Arthur MacArthur refused to continue rule, fleeing to Switzerland. Since then, Japan has been a figure of East Asian politics despite economic struggles.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality General MacArthur was a loyal American. Under his leadership, the Japanese, as he told Congress in 1951, "have from the ashes left in war's wake erected in Japan an edifice dedicated to the supremacy of individual liberty and personal dignity, and in the ensuing process there has been created a truly representative government committed to the advance of political morality, freedom of economic enterprise, and social justice". Shortly before his death, the Japanese respectfully referred to him as the Gaijin Shogun.




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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if victory in the Second Punic War was a disaster for Carthage? This post is a second prequel to the article Hannibal Captures Rome written by Professor Jeff Provine Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 217 BC, with the arguments of the anti-Barca coalition discredited by an unbeaten run of stunning victories the Carthaginian Council finally agreed to provide Hannibal with the overwhelming resources necessary to assault Rome.

Carthaginian Council backs the assault on RomeOriginally caused by a multidecade trading conflict against the Greek cities within the Ionian Sea, the Second Punic War had been privately financed by the Spanish territory and the Barca family, several nobles and military leaders within Carthage.

Weary of ending all of his councils of war with the vacuous phrase "Rome must be destroyed", Hannibal changed his strategy deciding to appeal to the Carthaginian Council with a demand for the resources necessary to complete the campaign. In the event he was given the war machines of Archimedes which had been built for the defence of Syracuse.

From a purely military perspective, the conquest of Italy was a stunning success. The strategic insertion of multiple invading armies onto the Italian peninsula forced the Romans to divide their forces allowing the Carthaginians to transport their siege equipment down the Tiber to Rome. But the fulfilment of Hannibal's promise to his father Hamilcar (that he would eternally hate Rome) would have unexpected consequences for Carthage long after the salting of Roman Capital. That unknown variable was the re-emergence of the Grecian Cities under the re-invigorated leadership of the Macedonians.


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Readers Comment Mike commented on 2012-01-25 09:45:16 ~ And what a contest it was between Rome and Carthage.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-25 16:19:19 ~ They were as apt conquerors as Romans, but they liked the sea much more. With Greeks blocking their way east, they could've spread west and even south to Africa's Forest Kingdoms or northward to secure the tin mines in Britain. We'd see a very different world social system.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-01-25 19:13:29 ~ Wouldn't this world look like the AU in Poul Anderson's story "Delenda Est?"

Readers Comment Christopher Lee commented on 2012-01-25 21:31:41 ~ It's certainly an interesting concept. However, I am not sure that the Carthaginians did have the resources to take Rome. Rome was a heavily populated state with numerous citizens, all with vested interests in the survival of the state. Carthage had a much smaller populace and relied on a web of clients and tributary states. the vast bulk of Hannibal's army were non-Carthaginians. Whether they had large-scale siege ability within their military is a good question. Certainly Hannibal's army as it stood had no ability to besiege Rome. I think a putative siege would have probably failed and Roman guerrilla attacks depleted the Carthaginian numbers. Put simply I think Carthage was overall much weaker in terms of human resources than Rome and had reached its high-water mark by invading and ravaging Italy. If they were to succeed then detaching the Roman allies in southern Italy was far more important than taking Rome itself. To defeat Rome they needed to remove these allies from Roman allegiance and then Rome would have been reduced to a manageable rump. Hannibal signally failed to do this, probably because it made little sense for the allies to detach themselves from Rome and join a foreign power with a long track record of subjugating and exploiting their tributary states. If they had succeeded I find it very unlikely that the Greeks would have expanded in this way. The Greeks had plenty to do in terms of controlling the Hellenised regions of Egypt and Syria with those areas soaking up Greece's surplus manpower and interests. Carthage with its small population would have struggled to create a genuine empire like Rome's they would have needed to Carthaginianise their subjects. This would have been hard as Punic culture was a transplant from the Levant and there were no similar cultural or linguistic groups to easily assimilate, like the Romans could easily assimilate the other Italian peoples. It would have been a massive effort to achieve any real control outside the Carthaginian regions. So I propose that Carthage would have continued in its merry way and Italy would have reverted to smaller native states. I think the real beneifiaries might have been the Celts. Given space and time by the failure of Rome at this stage they might well have developed more advanced and impressive states. We might now have a Celtic western Europe.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Japanese had fiercely resisted American occupation? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1948, on this day the US Occupation Authority issued an arrest for forty-seven officerless Japanese warriors following the gruesome discovery of the severed head of the hated General-san Douglas MacArthur in a bucket on the samurai grave of Asano in Sengaku-ji.

Death of the General-SanBut in the turmoil of post-war Japan the men had little difficulty in fleeing to Hokkaidõ where they were concealed by the communist government of the Democratic People's Republic of Japan.

Of course the signs had been omninous ever since a massive typhon had ripped apart Admiral Halsey's invasion fleet. Exceptionalists in Japanese society issued a reinvigorated call to arms, believing that the "kamikaze" divine wind was an omen that the defenders could repel the invaders, as Shinto Priests had intepreted the destruction of Kubla Khan's Mongol Navy in 1274 and 1281.

Unable to prevent X-Day from succeeding albeit at huge cost, they sharpened their focus on a new goal. Sending the severed head of the invading commander back to Washington, as their forefathers had with Commodore Matthew C. Perry who insulted the long-standing policy of international isolation known as "sakoku".

The subjugation of the exceptionalists stretched US Forces to the absolute limit of their resources, forcing a reluctant Truman to share the burden of the American occupation with the Soviet Union. Fighting for their cultural and national survival, only one legend remainded intact, that of the forty-seven ronin who avenged their samurai by placing the severed head of their enemy in a bucket on their master Alano's grave.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in the preamble to Kim Stanley Robinson's short story "The Lucky Strike" Mark McNally argues that the ferocity of the Pacific War was due to the combatants shared sense of exceptionalism:
"The historian John Dower has documented how race was an especially prominent feature of the Pacific War. Although the United States was a great world power by the outbreak of the war, to many Japanese, Americans were a "mongrel" people, fundamentally lacking Japan's own racial purity. Purity, Dower contends, was the basis for Japanese claims of racial superiority. On the other hand, Americans had equally racist views of the Japanese and they used various slurs and epithets against them. Thus to the Japanese, the Americans were inferior humans, to the Americans, the Japanese were sub-human".


Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2011-01-29 01:24:02 ~ And what happened to American nuclear weapons?

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-01-29 02:39:11 ~ Since X-Day is mentioned, I assume that we are writing nuclear weapons out of the story. If this is the case, then intervention by the Soviet Union would, I believe, have become inevitable. Also, a conventional invasion (especially of the Tokyo Plain, as originally envisioned in Operation Coronet) would have resulted in the deaths of perhaps millions of Japanese civilians. The hardcore survivors would have doubtless seen their struggle as one of not just national survival, but cultural survival as well. No occupation force would have been safe. A very plausible alternative was presented here, I believe.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-29 07:09:52 ~ This would have been very, very bad indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if a "Final Solution to the Japanese Question" was at least prepared. That said, I'd also expect whoever was in charge of MacArthur's security to be transferred to the Aleutian Islands as a latrine orderly for the next twenty years.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-01-29 14:55:16 ~ The idea that a conventional invasion "would have resulted in the deaths of perhaps millions of Japanese civilians" has been used ever since 1945 to justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki to those for whom Pearl Harbor wasn't enough exuse. However, it's not clear that anything of the sort would have occurred. Absent nuclear weapons, the U.S. might have been more willing to explore the peace feelers Japan was putting out as early as the spring of '45; an invasion mighjt not even have been necessary. Even if it were, the notion that the Japanese would have fought on to the last infant (okay, I'm exaggerating, but only slightly) is rooted more in racism than in reality (otherwise there'd have been no peace feelers). If the Japanese people could have been convinced Americans didn't mean to exterminate them (as some Japanese propaganda claimed and as a 1944 U.S. magazine poll indicated about 14 percent of Americans favored), resistance would likely have been far less fierce. After all, U.S. planners expected years of savage guerrilla warfare in defeated Nazi Germany, but it doidn't happen there; the Nazis' "Werwolf" program flopped. Npone of which means there couldn't have been terrorist groupds operating which might have targeted occupiers, including MacArthur--especially if Emperor Hirohito had died (in a bombing, or by assassination) before ordering his people to surrender.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-01-29 19:08:12 ~ Thank goodness for the A-bomb. Though, without it, the Cold War may have turned hotter since there wasn't as much instant threat.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-01-30 11:06:07 ~ Eric Lipps -- Hindsight is 20-20, isn't it?

Readers Comment Josh Miller commented on 2011-02-02 04:48:03 ~ The thing is by the end of 1944 the Japanese were already willing to make peace. To save face they demanded that whatever happened their emperor would remain in power. Truman did not accept this and ordered total unconditional surrender, when Japan refused he ordered them to drop the bomb. They asked if they could keep their emperor, Truman refused again so he dropped the second and again they would only surrender if they would be allow to keep their emperor.
The army was convinced that the impending soviet invasion would force them to the peace talks to accept unconditional surrender...well it didn't.
The former American ambassador to Japan advised the president to accept their terms simple because 'it's not that big of a deal and it's really not worth it'
So even without the bomb we might still have got Japan to surrender without an invasion...still what does this do to Korea and could it be possible that the Russians have the bomb before we do?

Readers Comment Nils K. Hammer commented on 2011-02-03 22:16:04 ~ The idea that nukes worked because they "scared" the Japanese militarists is wrongedy-wrong-wrong. In their fantasy world, the more the soldiers suffered, the spiffier they were. There was a soldier who was nuked, and saw the skin burns had the clothing patterns in them. He insisted that if everyone wore white clothes they would get by. The SENSIBLE Japanese knew long ago that surrender was the right idea, but anyone suspected of being sensible would be assassinated by the right wingers. What the nukes did was give the Emperor an additional symbol he could use in his speech calling for an end of hostilities. Even so, the right wing was planning an attack on the palace to prevent the speech, destroy the recording, and presumable abduct the Emperor "for his own good". All you need for your unhappy what-if is for the peace call to be prevented, which would be very easy to make happen in many ways.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Daniel Shays waited to take Springfield Armory? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1787, in the economic turmoil after the American Revolution, many of the most valiant fighters for freedom suffered long after the war ended. Daniel Shays was a laborer who had joined the Continental Army, fighting at battles such as Bunker Hill and victory at Saratoga.

Daniel Shays Waits to take Springfield Armory After being wounded, he resigned and left still unpaid. Upon arriving home, he found himself in court for unpaid debts. He was hardly alone; debtor's prison and courts had pursued hundreds of poor former soldiers in Massachusetts alone. Meanwhile, judges, lawyers, and wealthy merchants in Boston were making fortunes as the young nation grew, controlling specie in gold and silver as inflation made the poor poorer yet.

A new story by Jeff ProvineShays met with other farmers and laborers, and they began to organize into a new revolutionary army. Numbers grew and altercations began as the masses fought against the bourgeois, who had confirmed power through the Revolution by pushing out the British. Governor John Hancock, famous signer of the Declaration of Independence, had suppressed riots, but local militias were losing support. The new governor James Bowdoin decided to take serious action. Leading wealthy Boston merchants funded a new 3,000-man militia to be commanded by General Benjamin Lincoln.

The militia marched toward Springfield in January, where Shays and Luke Day commanded armies of revolutionaries who had shut down the local courts from prosecuting debtors. The local 900-man armory headed by General William Shepard was under siege, and Secretary of War Henry Knox had ordered him not to use the weapons inside as it required Congressional approval. Shays sent a message to Day suggesting that they attack before Lincoln's army arrived and seize the weaponry, but Day replied that he needed another day to organize. Shays begrudgingly agreed, spending the rest of January 25 writing letters to Shepard explaining his case and asking for a surrender.

The infuriated Shepard felt that his duty to the new United States was to defend federal property, even though the federal government refused him to use it. Judging the times, he decided to let the people choose for themselves. On the 26th, Shays and Day marched on the armory, and Shepard ordered his men to fire their muskets in a warning shot. The revolutionaries refused to be deterred, overwhelming the troops and securing the armory.

At noon on the 27th, Lincoln and his mercenaries arrived. They attacked Shays and Day's joined forces in the defended position of the armory. The battle would last through the afternoon until Lincoln's exhausted troops began to break. Days led a counterattack across the frozen Connecticut River, routing Lincoln. The resounding victory would unite the farmers of western Massachusetts and lead to a march on Boston. Governor Bowdoin and the state legislature called for aid from the government, but Congress was out of session, so there was no way to legally declare war, even on Americans themselves. New York considered putting together a force to make peace, but the matter was deemed internal to a state, and a state invading another state to put down popular movement seemed contrary to the spirit of the Articles of Confederation.

With minimal resistance, Shays and his revolutionaries overthrew the Boston elite. New elections were held, despite stiff resistance from the shouts and writings of Samuel Adams, who now seemed unable to stop the voice of liberty that he had called for a little over a decade before. Heavy taxes were placed on the wealthy, solving the economic crisis while emptying the debtor's prisons. Calls for protection of property rang out but were drowned by councils judging those deemed "opposing the state".

Backlash flowed across the rest of the United States. George Washington and others called for a constitutional convention to create a stronger federal government. It may have worked, but the summer of 1787 came too late, and ultimately the delegates would disband, creating only a new list of individual rights proposed by the representatives from Massachusetts. Planters in Virginia and Georgia suddenly faced uprising from small farmers who were kept out of competition. Insurrections from the slave class erupted in South Carolina, spreading to the hundreds before being violently put down. In New York, debates over river rights and shipping prices caused violent altercations and blockading of the Hudson. Political and military leaders took charge, promising security in exchange for rights.

Revolution in the states would continue at various levels, weakening the United States into a broken confederation as many in the British Government had anticipated. A similar revolution ran through France, sparking wars throughout Europe. As the states argued about supporting events in Europe, many supported the fellow revolutionaries while others began considering a return to Britain. Seeing possibility that all the work of the Revolution might go undone, George Washington endorsed the increasingly popular Aaron Burr of New York as a central leader. Burr would settle the country by war, eventually setting himself up as Emperor of the Americas, a position that would eventually be broken by fresh revolution a generation later under General Andrew Jackson.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Shays' men attacked before Day was ready and were defeated as Shepard used the federal cannon to fire into the crowd of rebels. Lincoln's army mopped up the stragglers over the course of February, but the uprising was an awakening to the American people for the need of a strong, central government. The resulting constitutional convention produced the U.S. Constitution, a model for republican governments for centuries to come.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-01-26 17:15:58 ~ Thank goodness for Shays' impatience, otherwise this country would have been in deep yogurt.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-26 20:00:48 ~ Don't really know enough about Shays or his rebellion to comment intelligently, but we may have dodged a bullet on this one.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-01-27 01:01:02 ~ If "heavy taxes were placed on the wealthy," wouldn't they start fleeing to other states? Raising taxes to raise revenue can work, but it carries the risk of capital flight, especially when low-tax havens are available nearby.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2011-01-27 04:07:22 ~ So does Jackson become America's Napoleon?

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-04-23 17:56:54 ~ Fact is the new American government oppressed the citizens just like the English KIng had just on a smaller scale and in isolated examples. Today it's no longer isolated but the norm.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Benezir Bhutto survived the Presidential elections? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2008, on this day in her home city of Karachi, the Chairwoman of Pakistan Peoples Party Benazir Bhutto announced her withdrawal from the national elections. The decision had looked increasingly inevitable ever since her private security detail fired indiscriminantly into the crowd at Liaquat National Bagh in Rawalpindi on December 27th.

Protecting the PrincipalAfter eight years in exile in Dubai and London, Miss Bhutto returned to Karachi on 18 October 2007. Shortly after she left Jinnah International Airport en route to a political rally in Karachi, two explosions occurred. She was not injured but the explosions, later found to be a suicide-bomb attack, killed 136 people and injured at least 450.

"Our mission is to protect the principal at all costs" ~ Ann StarrThe CEO of Blackwater International, Eric Prince contacted Miss Bhutto to impress upon her the compelling piece of information that his private security company had not lost a single "principal" under diplomatic protection. But the price was not cheap, the bill for Paul Bremer's single year in Iraq was a staggering $27m.

"Blackwater provides a valuable service. They protect people's lives" ~ BushMiss Bhutto not alone in her desperation. Following the Nissour Square Massacre in Baghdad on 16th September, the Government of Iraq had expelled Blackwater International from the country. They had soon be replaced by other private security firms, including DynCorp and Triple Canopy, but right now Blackwater needed some new contracts, big time. And that business would soon follow with awards for the US-Mexican Border and the Beijing Olympics projects.


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Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-01-25 22:31:14 ~ You know I'm waiting for Blackwater to actually take over the running of a country sooner or later. It reminds me of that TV series Jericho...

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-01-25 23:07:56 ~ Blackwater as modern-day condottiere taking over failed states? Works for me!

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2010-01-25 23:20:03 ~ you'll be hardly surprised to hear theres a story along those lines in the works now chaps!

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-01-26 00:46:57 ~ No kidding....

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-01-26 00:56:45 ~ No Pakistani politician could survive he political implications of US mercenary bodyguards . No Pakistani government would give them license to operate.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2010-01-26 01:06:32 ~ Correct Mr P according to the source article, the Pakistani Government did object however the key blocker was the US State Department. Also Chinese Government rejected Blackwater from the '08 Games for the same reason.



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In 1848, Gold is discovered in Coloma, Alta California, along the banks of the Rio Americano.

The find touches off a mad scramble of would-be prospectors. The gold-seekers' journey will be arduous.

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Gold Rush

The still-ongoing war with the Indiana tribes, who control a vast inland domain, makes a direct passage across the continent out of the question, requiring would-be exploiters of California's riches to take one of two less attractive routes: either through the newly acquired territories of Texas and Nuevo Mexico before swinging up into Alta California, a route soon christened the Golden Turn, or a perilous months-long sea voyage around the tip of South America and up to Alta California's western coast. The land route requires travelers to cross broad expanses of baking desert; the ocean trip exposes them to the risks of storms, accident and disease.


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In 1988, gold speculators, remembering President Kemp`s enthusiasm for returning the United States to the gold standard, begin buying up massive stocks of the metal and acquiring shares in mining companies.

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In 2005, Dave Lange researches the company that Jeanna Best found out the day before, Myrmidon. Hours of searching yields him nothing; the company is very good at hiding its tracks. Just when he is about to give up hope, a small item in a Lexis-Nexis search tells him that representatives of the company met with President Bush in 2002; he finds other references to them in meetings with powerful leaders of other nations, as well. He even succeeds in finding a picture of the company's president, one J. Burton Howell.

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In 1994, Jeanne Dixon, shortly after predicting that she would be raptured with other true believers in the year 2000, died in New York City. She had stepped in front of a car that she hadn't seen coming.

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In 4677, celebrated actress Jiang Qing makes her final film. In her youth, she had created a minor scandal when she started up an affair with Imperial Minister Mao Tse-Tung. After other councilors convinced him it was unwise to continue, he left her. She never married after this affair, and even when Emperor Mao, then a widower, asked for her hand, she refused him.

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In 1964, Pete Best's single Come Dance With Me topped the charts in America. Hot on the heels of his first American tour, the success he enjoyed in America convinced Best to move there and take advantage of their larger audience for his music.

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In 1956, Prime Minister Kyukhov of Russia tells a visiting American journalist that "President Joel Rosenberg is working towards peace; we could have a peaceful coexistence with this man as your leader". The interview, broadcast around the world the next day, helps Comrade President Rosenberg to forge a new era of detente with Europe's largest monarchy.

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In 1000 Post-Creation, Lucifer and his small band of rebel angels raid Eden and kidnap Adam and Eve. Using the power he has gained over it in his time in the Abyss, Lucifer cools the lake of fire and creates a place to keep the humans while his demands are heard in Heaven. All of Creation shakes with the anger of Yahweh when He learns of this transgression.

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In 2005, Dave Lange researches the company that Jeanna Best found out the day before, Myrmidon. Hours of searching yields him nothing; the company is very good at hiding its tracks. Just when he is about to give up hope, a small item in a Lexis-Nexis search tells him that representatives of the company met with President Bush in 2002; he finds other references to them in meetings with powerful leaders of other nations, as well. He even succeeds in finding a picture of the company's president, one J. Burton Howell.

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In 2001, a week into his first term, Republican Congressmen began drawing up papers of impeachment for President Gore. They accused him of being in the pocket of the Chinese government because of his fund-raising event attended by Chinese nationals. For his defense, he pointed out that there were plenty of California Republicans at the event, as well. The impeachment movement fell flat after the facts were made known to the American public.

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In 1994, Jeanne Dixon, shortly after predicting that she would be raptured with other true believers in the year 2000, died in New York City. She had stepped in front of a car that she hadn't seen coming.

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In 1349, Idi Amin, a general in Uganda's military, seized power from the rightful ruler, Caliph Mutessa II, in a bloody coup. He abolished Islam during his short reign, alienating Uganda from all the nations surrounding it. In 1352, when he began slaughtering old tribal enemies, the Islamic nations surrounding him invaded and removed him from power.

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In 1995, years after the Soviet Union had collapsed, and peace was the order of the day, the Russian missile defense system detected a launch from Norway. Although it was a mistake, and a simple call for verification from Moscow would have confirmed that it was a mistake, the commander at the switch that day was an unreconstructed hardliner, and ordered every missile launched. This triggered a launch from European bases, and before anyone could stop them, nuclear devastation wasted northern Europe.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Judas Iscariot was the tortured hero portrayed by the Gnostic texts? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 0, on this day the lesser creator God Nebro set Adamas into human flesh trapped inside the boundaries of the flawed little world called Earth.

Good News according to JudasTwo steps removed from the imperishable realm of divinity, the first man was misdirected by sense. And without the necessary leadership, he was utterly incapable of returning to the heavenly home. Lost in a terrifying reality, millennia passed before the Great Spirit El chose to intevene and show humanity how to set itself free.

El sent a teacher, an agent of the purpose. Only one man was great enough to grasp the whole message, and he was directed to release the teacher from the human flesh (pictured). But the sincerity of his actions were twisted by knaves. His testimony was secreted in a cave for thousands of years before the ultimate truth was finally revealed to the rest of humanity.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in the 1970s the Codex Tchacos was discovered near Beni Masah in Egypt, a manuscript which contains the Gospel according to Judas. Wikipedia reports ~ The Gospel of Judas consists of 16 chapters which document Jesus's teaching about spiritual matters and cosmology. Judas is the hero of this Gospel and the only one of Jesus's disciples who accurately understands the words of his master. This Gospel contains few narrative elements; essentially, the Gospel records how Judas was taught by Jesus the true meaning of his message, and was then stoned to death by the other disciples.


Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2012-01-25 04:52:40 ~ Intriguing. Not alternate history. But,thought provoking.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-25 16:15:08 ~ Deep stuff! The question is, why would he have initially taken the 30 pieces of silver to do it? Or was that part of the Mysteries and ruse?

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2012-01-25 21:21:52 ~ Wow. And that is probbly the truth.

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2012-01-26 00:20:35 ~ Wasn't the "Gospel of Judas" debunked decades ago?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-01-26 00:55:13 ~ Not partial to this sort of thing in general, but read as an "alternate Gospel" rather than literally as alternate history it's the sort of thing one could imagine a Jewish or Christian heretic comiing up with.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-01-26 02:44:37 ~ The religion based on this would be weird...



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Goldsboro B-52 crash had triggered a nuclear detonation? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1961, on this day at Faro near Goldsboro, North Carolina a hydrogen bomb exploded with two hundred and fifty times the power of the blast that annihilated Hiroshima after a B-52 Stratofortress carrying two Mark 39 nuclear weapons broke up in mid-air, dropping its payload in the process.

Broken ArrowDuring mid-air refuelling the tanker crew advised the B-52 captain, Major W.S. Tullock that his aircraft had a leak in its port wing fuel cell. The problem worsened when the aircraft reached its assigned position and 37,000 pounds (17,000 kg) of fuel was lost in only three minutes. Initially directed to land at Seymour Johnson Air Base, the crew were soon forced to abandon the aircraft altogether. But due to the gyration of the aircraft, the nuclear payload became separated and all six of the arming devices became activated.

In the months of Congressional hearings that followed the tragedy, USAF leaders insisted that the pilot's safe/arm switch should have prevented detonation, ensuring that the bomb was unarmed and could not explode. Problem was that public confidence in the USAF had been shattered, not only by the incident but also revelations of the frequent reoccurences of near misses - three in the three previous years alone when counting the Florence, South Carolina and Tybee Island incidents

Allegedly, President John F. Kennedy also agreed that Goldsboro was an accident waiting to happen, intending to "splinter the USAF into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds". Most probably by re-integrating the command structure back into the United States Army and dismissing the senior leadership team. Unfortunately for the White House, General Thomas White had recently retired, and the incoming Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force was Curtis LeMay (pictured) who decided to pre-empt that end-game by secretly organizing a firing of his own...

And so shortly after assuming office, Lyndon Baines Johnson announced that a major restructure of the Armed Forces would weaken America at a time of high national security alert.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Wikipedia reports ~ according to former military analyst Daniel Ellsberg, he saw highly classified documents indicating that the pilot's safe/arm switch was the only one of the six arming devices on the bomb that prevented detonation. The Pentagon claims that there was no chance of an explosion and that two switches remained unswitched. A DOD spokesperson told UPI reporter Donald May that the bomb was unarmed and could not explode.
Thanks to Scott Palter for his assistance in drafting this article.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-02-07 02:16:54 ~ I don't think they'd be carrying H-bombs in anything like a "ready-to-fire" state over US soil.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-02-07 03:31:58 ~ That would make for a huge anti-nuke program movement, possibly enough to topple the Arms Race.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-02-07 09:01:55 ~ And Daniel Ellsberg is always a dispassionate and reliable source. Steve, Steve, Steve...

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-02-07 12:50:14 ~ Whether or not the bomb could have gone off in a full-scale buclear explosion, it could easily have spread radioactive contamination over a wide area. That's true whatever one thinks of Ellsberg, and would have been disaster enough.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-02-07 14:08:11 ~ Good point.

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2011-02-07 20:23:57 ~ Two problems - nukes are designed so there's zero chance that they'll explode in the event of an accident. The simple fact that the implusion of a plutonium device has to be exact is difficult enough by itself, but without it being armed (& that takes the presidential order/codes etc) in the first place ensures no detonation can occur. Secondly, by the very nature of the construction of a plutonium bomb, even if dropped from a great height, means that contamination will be limited to an area adjacent to the drop site. So at best we'd be talking a few hundred metres although that would spread over time if the sight wasn't cleaned up within a few days. In other words no nuclear explosion & no great contamination. Mind you, yes there would be a scandal & yes people would panic.

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-02-07 20:23:57 ~ Matthew Dattilo Ellsberg's statement has been treated as fact even though there was no independent verification of his claim. Regardless, a detonation of that bomb at that time during the Cold War would probably, I believe, have resulted in a top-down ree...xamination of the US nuclear "triad" policy. In 1961, the Strategic Air Command had bombers in the air 24 hours a day. That practice would have stopped forever. Interestingly enough, the Air Force had quite a few aircraft losses in which nuclear weapons were jettisoned from the plane; some have never been recovered. The Navy has only lost two weapons, both MK45 nuclear torpedoes that sank with the USS Scorpion in 1968. However, they were located and are still monitored annually; they rest on the bottom of the Atlantic in 11,000 feet of water.
I think it's important to remember how the average American viewed the Cold War in 1961. We were still four years from sending combat troops to Vietnam and public trust of government was still much higher than it would be in, say, 1968. I believe it's possible that the entire incident might have been blamed on the Soviets, who would have denied involvement. Would it have come to a war? That depends on how many people died, as callous as that sounds.
It's also possible that an accidental detonation would have resulted in LBJ steering clear of deep involvement in Vietnam (or anywhere else in the world) because of public trepidation with regard to anything related to the military.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Henry Bigler and Azariah Smith killed James W. Marshall shortly after his discovery of gold flakes? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1848, late in the evening, workers at Sutter's Mill outside Sacramento, California Territory, discovered the drowned body of foreman James Marshall.

James W. Marshall Found Dead Rumors instantly flew that it was at the hands of the Mormon workers who had immigrated to California after being discharged from the Mormon Battalion of the Mexican-American War. Though the historiography is sketchy it is believed that Henry Bigler and Azariah Smith killed Marshall shortly after his discovery of gold flakes in the stream and before he turned the information over to owner John Sutter for testing. Further evidence is garnered by hasty messages by both of them sent to the heads of the LDS Church in newly founded Great Salt Lake City. Representatives from President of the Church Brigham Young soon arrived in California with ample funding to buy out Sutter, who moved his mill to lands farther north and continued his empire-building dream of New Helvetia.

A new story by Jeff ProvineThat March, newspaper editor Samuel Brannan was also found dead, drowned in the San Francisco harbor. It is believed that he caught word of the discovery of gold, now practically held in monopoly by the Mormons, and was planning to announce it as he had recently opened a store for prospecting supplies. The public announcement of the discovery of gold in California did not come until 1851, when nearly all claims had been made by Mormon immigrants, who had also bought up all of the prospecting equipment in the region.

Wealth exploded out of California, and much of it passed into the coffers of the LDS Church, centered in Deseret Territory (it is believed that sufficient bribery had caused the Federal Government to give Governor Young a great deal of control over its organization in the Compromise of 1850). The Mormon Church came to dominate Deseret Territory as well as Northern California, creating an enormous religious bloc that would act as a state within the US, continually influencing politics in far-off Washington while keeping itself separated from outside control.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality James Marshall brought his discovery of gold flakes to John Sutter, who tried to keep the find quiet. Samuel Brannan published the discovery in his newspaper in March, reportedly walking through the street upholding a vial and calling, "Gold! Gold! Gold from the American River!" Latter-day Saints Henry Bigler and Azariah Smith made the first recorded documentation of the discovery in their diaries.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-26 02:25:42 ~ This might have led to a real, all-out war against the LDS state-within-the-state, particularly if they were clumsy using their financial power.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-01-26 12:58:00 ~ And especially since they were already despised for, among other things, their practice of polygamy (which they were required to outlaw as a condition forUtah statehood); they had been hounded across the country and there were plenty of people who wanted them exterminated for their "immoraility." Throw gold int the mix, and it's the Jews in medieval Spain all over again.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Pope Eugene IV had been captured in Rome by agents of the Council of Basel? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1438, on this day the suspension of Eugene IV Takes Hold. The world-unifying Council of Basel had been convened in Switzerland in 1431 by Martin V to continue the reforms under his papacy that had solved the Western Schism, which had torn apart Catholic Christendom for nearly forty years.

Suspension of Eugene IV Takes Hold In 1417, the Council of Constance had determined agreements to have the Roman Pope Gregory XII and Pisan Pope John XXIII, while the Avignon Pope Benedict XIII was excommunicated, undercutting his support and effectively ending the schism. Conciliarism had solved the issues of whom to trust with ultimate authority and many sought for it to reign supreme in Western Europe.

A new story by Jeff ProvineCouncils were to take place every seven years, and Martin V convoked Basel shortly before his death of apoplexy. His cunning assistant Gabriele Condulmer was appointed Pope Eugene IV quickly afterward, and he immediately began to struggle with the Council. In December, Eugene called a dissolution for the Council, but the electors refused to leave and continued reforms. Eugene, a native Venetian, gave papal support to his city and allied Florence against Milan during the Lombardy Wars, which spawned great unrest among the Romans. After two years of contrary bulls, the two were reconciled by the newly elected Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund, who allowed for the retaining of papal powers (and protection) while Eugene IV revoked the dissolution.

Following his settlement with those at Basel and looking toward presiding over a peace treaty in Ferrara, Eugene attempted to escape Rome disguised as a Benedictine monk. While in the Tiber, he was spotted and had stones thrown at him until a band of Romans supporting the Colonnna Family swam into the river and dragged him back to the Vatican. The city turned to an uproar that even the papal armies under Cardinal Vitelleschi could not reestablish control with the Pope under hostage. The peace talks in Ferrara disintegrated without the pope, and his influence began to become questioned as balance struck itself out.

While the Pope's power waned, the Council at Basel continued to grow in prestige. They wrote reform (such as banning circumcision as a mortal sin), judged lawsuits, acted as mediators, and even influenced the Treaty of Arras ending the Hundred Years' War between France and England. As the Council worked to achieve union with the church in the East, Eugene IV finally had to give them recognition to align his own political agendas. The parties worked to determine a place of meeting with the Council wanting an inland city far from Roman influence and the Greeks of Constantinople hoping for an easily reached port city. On January 10, 1438, the convention met, and the two churches began discussing ways of reconciling their dogma. Eugene worked to gain advantage in the discussion, but on January 24, the Council suspended him. It was the first step on the downward spiral of papal power, followed soon after of gaining the support of Frederick III, King of the Romans, that would eventually be relocated to a main seat representing overall Western Catholicism on the Council.

In the meantime, the Council was able to achieve an agreement with Patriarch Joseph II of Constantinople early in 1439. He would die that June, but by then the union would be in action, and, though unpopular, would prove to be mutually beneficial as the West ended its infighting and launched fresh crusades to beat back the Ottoman advances on the East. The reunification of the Church continued as the Coptic Christians arrived from Ethiopia with delegates in 1441. Further unification came as the Jacobites of Syria, Maronites of Lebanon, and even Nestorians of Persia came into the fold, joining Armenians and Russians who had already come. They managed to incite rebellion through the growing Ottoman Empire in Greece and Turkey, ending the expansion of Muslim political power while eclipsing it with a new Christian coalition.

The strong unity came as the Council debated issues such as purgatory and the Processions of the Holy Spirit. Theological debates will continue eternally, but the loose Constitution of Christendom would define a common ground that would be used by political leaders throughout Europe, Asia, and Africa to determine trade agreements, terms of war and peace, and overall morality. Missionaries and conquerors would stretch the reach of Christendom through Africa (in a crusade against slavery once dreamed by Martin V), Mongol-controlled Asia, and even to the newly discovered Americas.

Noted Pope Martin VI, formerly Augustinian monk Martin Luther, would lead internal matters of reformation by separating Church and State, the holy and the secular, solving many of the issues rising by the very different beliefs of the many churches that could not be rectified with his famous bull, "...Therefore I declare that neither pope nor bishop nor any other person has the right to impose a syllable of law upon a Christian man without his own consent".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Eugene IV escaped Rome in 1433. War paused in northern Italy, and he maintained significant political influence. When the Council of Basel, moved to Ferrara and then Florence, attempted to suspend and depose Eugene while electing their own antipope. The schism would last ten years, and the political disagreements would break down attempts of unifying the world's Christian churches while establishing papal authority over councils.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-24 16:40:14 ~ Interesting...I don't know if it'd have worked in RL, particularly the parts about the Eastern churches. A lot of those quarrels were actually over national differences, just expressed via church differences.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2011-01-24 17:19:07 ~ Agreed. This seems to understate both the degree of opposition on both a theological and proto-national level toward union with Rome (a lot of Greeks actually preferred Ottoman rule to Latin interference at this point).

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2011-01-24 17:19:07 ~ Alan Abramowitz Pope Martin was Martin Luther?

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-01-25 07:49:02 ~ In 1438, nothing was "world-unifying."



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, why did George Washington refuse the Presidency? muses Raymond Speer in Part 2 of this story. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1788, George Washington's foremost precedent was his decision not to assume the chief magistracy of his country; in a note which he wrote to a fan in 1796, George Washington commented: "I eschewed the honor the sundry politicians thought they did for me because, for myself, I was tired of Public Life, and for my country, I was apprehensive that the future might be disfigured if Generals in Chief grew to regard the Presidential Office as an Entitlement for their Services to the United States".

President John Hancock Part 2
by Raymond Speer
One of the adages used by Henry Clay to great effect against Andrew Jackson was that "Washington wanted to refuse the Chief Executive Office to anyone who might think it was an Appointment owed to men in military command". Clay managed a 145 to 141 electoral vote victory over Jackson in 1832, who had been campaigning for 4 continual years on the theory that a corrupt bargain had put John Q. Adams in the White House in 1828. Had Adams not forfeited his chance for a second term, and ceded the candidacy to the more vigorous Clay, perhaps Jackson would have won and destroyed the federal banking system as he promised to do.

The next general to present himself for the Presidency was Zachery Taylor. Governor Lew Cass defeated that officer. (Had a third party candidate named Martin Van Buren done better in the race, electoral votes in the Northeast would have been switched to Taylor, who might have won the election. If something had made Van Buren a more prominent man nationwide, that could have indirectly made Taylor the winner).

Following the Civil War, a popular Union Gen, Ulysses Grant, campaigned for the office and was widely expected to win, but Horatio Seymour came from behind in that dramatic election and beat Grant.

In the Progressive Amendment of 1905, several different changes were made in the Constitution including three electoral votes for District of Columbia, poll tax abolition, child labor forbidden for those under fifteen, and a natralized citizen's right to run for President. The fourth provision of that Amendment was that: "No Army officer who has attained the rank of lieutenant general or better, or a similar grade in the Navy, shall be eligible to be President or Vice President". Since that law was enacted, John Pershing, Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MccArthur and William Westmoreland has been forbidden the Presidency.
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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-04-11 00:28:35 ~ I don't think such an amendment would have passed, even in a USA with a strong tradition of military officers not seeking the presidency or being denied it if they did run. It would be seen as a gratuitous slap at men who had served their country. Loading down the amendment with extra provisions like electoral votes for DC and the elimination of the requirement of native citizenship for presidential candidates (especially the latter) would have sunk it for sure. An amendment barring military officers in active service from the presidency might have passed, though.

Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-04-11 01:04:41 ~ Don't forget Coast Guard and Marines. Good military leaders usally make poor political ones. George Washington and Andrew Jackson are the exception since Washington was the first and Jackson was the most pig headed and ruthless. Zackery Taylor and the first Harrison were not in office long enough to do anything that might give them the chance to screw up. . But we need only look to see men like Jefferson Davis West Point Graduate), the Duke of Wellington, Ulysies S. Grant , Dwight Eisenhower, and the second Harrison to see that good military men make poor political leaders due the differences of their environment. We can also look to Ideas Geeks like Jimmy Carter and Woodrow Wilson to see that this principle does not keep to just military men.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-04-11 01:23:58 ~ I have to share Eric Lipps' skepticism...

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-04-11 03:07:55 ~ I also must agree with my learned friend Mr. Lipps...

Facebook Comment Comment from Jeff Mayers on Facebook: Well, if George Washington had refused the Presidency then it would be a little tough to tell since who knows how the first President would have acted when that person was in office. Also, we might not have the informal tradition of a President only serving 2 terms...

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-04-12 09:48:38 ~ Sorry i didn't answer the original email: 1. very hard to imagine the constitution passing if Washington is not to be President - ratification was difficult enough as is and no one else had his prestige 2. if it were to be someone else why Hancock? Odds say original president would be a Virginian so probably Jefferson. If not John Adams is a more likely choice as would Frnaklin have been had he been willing to put emancipation aside. 3. even if we get to hancock the no military men is quite unlikely - most of the Founding fathers had at least seen militia service



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Winston Churchill had been raised on the other side of the Atlantic by his American mother? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1965, Winston S. Churchill, first prime minister of the United Dominions of America, dies in the UDA's capital of Georgetown, Virginia at the age of 90.

Continental Congress Collapses by Eric LippsChurchill, son of Lord Randolph Churchill and the American-born Miranda Jacobson Churchill, had been born in England but had moved to America in 1909 following a bitter quarrel with his father. In the dominions, he had become involved with the sovereignty movement. Quarreling bitterly with the so-called "Separationist" faction, which sought complete independence for Britain's North American possessions, he rose to leadership of the rival "Dominionists".

By 1939, under his direction, the sovereignty movement had been poised for victory--but on Sept. 1 of that year, the Second World War broke out, pitting Britain, France, Italy and Japan against the Quadrilateral Alliance of imperial Germany, Ottoman Turkey, Spain and Austria-Hungary, leading Parliament to table the Dominion Act. Its passage after the war created the UDA, which, while remaining nominally subject to London, was in practical fact far larger, more prosperous and more militarily powerful than the mother country.

The story of America's rise to sovereignty and the parallel development in India was vividly chronicled in the 1975 BBC miniseries "The Jewels in the Crown".

Under the UDA's constitution, Churchill was eligible only for a single seven-year term as prime minister, subject to special elections prior to his term's end. No such elections occurred, and on April 30, 1953, Churchill stepped down. He would remain active in politics, becoming an outspoken advocate of "containment" of Tsar Nicholas III's expansionist Russia and of a "yellow peril" view of the Japanese Empire. Churchill's influence was crucial in securing American assistance for Delhi in the Indo-Japanese War, which was ongoing at the time of his death.


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Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-01-25 02:36:53 ~ Several unlikely bits in here. First the pressure for dominion status of some sort would have mounted FAR earlier. Indeed it is difficult to imagine the period 1789-1815 without such a push. Second a world that had avodied major war until 1939 is quite unlikely to have one in the form you suggest. AH would have imploded before that. The Ottomans would either be a major power or have imploded. Spain would never fight every seapower in the Med. Now Churchill as PM of a united Anglosphere is possible but the POD is 1940.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-01-25 06:39:04 ~ Would the UDA's capital be in Georgetown, or someplace else?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-01-25 14:08:07 ~ In order: (1) In the timeline I envision, the American Revolution collapsed early when the Continental Congress voted down the Declaration of Independence after Jefferson refused to excise a passage condemning the African slave trade, infuriating Southern delegates (this is the POD--in our history, Jefferson gave in). Tightened British control followed for some time. Jefferson and others of the Founding Fathers died in exile (Washington was captured and executed). A second attempted revolution occurred in the 1830s when Britain outlawed slavery throughout the Empire; this one lasted longer, due to ideological fervor on the part of the slaveholding states, but was also defeated. (2) Pressure for dominion status (or outright independence) is present from early on, but is not politically respectable until decades after the second American revolt. (3) Ottoman Turkey IS a major power in this TL. By the 1940s it was no longer "the sick man of Europe" but had been revitalized, at least part by the discovery of vast oil deposits in its Persian Gulf holdings. (4) One would have thought that a world which had avoided a major war since 1815 would not have erupted into global conflict in 1914 following the assasination of an Austrian archduke, yet that's just what happened in our history. In this ATL, it simply took another generation (perhaps because without the example provided by earlier successful revolutions Serbian nationalism was a less potent force, so that Ferdinand's assassination ddn't happen). (5) Spain, in this timeline, is considerably more powerful than in our history, having held onto its New World colonies far longer. Besides, who says it would have been fighting alone? Turkey, for instance, would have had its own interests, and ships, in the Mediterranean.

Readers Comment Andrew Beane commented on 2010-01-25 18:45:12 ~ We JUST discussed the possibility of the Declaration of Independence being rejected in my Multi-cultural society class for the very reason you mentioned. This storyhas very strong historical roots and is very well thought-out.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Imperial Japan developed the super-weapon, on-stream for a later Pacific War? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1945, on this day USN Fleet Admiral Chester William Nimitz (pictured) delivered a top secret, presidential briefing on the latest super-weapon developed by the Imperial Japanese Navy: the I-201, a fast-attack sub with a sleek, cutting-edge design which was twice as fast its American equivalents and surpassing even the German Type XX.

Samurai SubsIn fact twenty-three units had been ordered from the Kure Navy Yard under the 1943 construction program. Because dire warnings from the Naval Marshal General and the commander-in-chief of the Combined Fleet, Isoroku Yamamoto had convinced the Imperial Government that the Navy would lose a Pacific War to the United States. The superior industrial might of the US would assuredly replace lost capital ships at a faster rate. At best, Japan would enjoy a year of glory, followed by defeat after defeat until the United States mustered overwhelming forces to impost their will upon the Pacific.

And so Japan needed to develop a strategic weapon which would redefine the military equation in the Pacific. Yamamoto planned to deploy the I-201 to patrol the sea lanes between Hawaii and the American west coast, placing Hawaii under siege and seriously hurting American operations in the Pacific.

Because the Japanese simply had to have maritime control of the Region. After the occupation of Manchuria and Korea, they had been locked in a bitter conflict with the Soviet Union. With Nazi Germany now on the verge of victory, the Japanese leadership needed to win the Soviet-Japanese Border War before the United States entered the war, exposing Japan to the larger threat of a "Grand Alliance".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, thanks to David Atwell for his assistance in the development of this post. The source article reads: researchers at the NOAA-funded Hawaii Undersea Research Laboratory [www.soest.hawaii.edu/HURL] have rediscovered two high-tech Japanese submarines off the coast of Oahu, where the U.S. Navy scuttled the vessels in 1946 to prevent their innovative technology from falling into Soviet hands. The smaller vessel, I-201, was a fast-attack sub with a sleek, cutting-edge design believed to have made it twice as fast as contemporary American subs. As with I-14, I-201 remained in harbor when the war ended. The two ships were among a group of five seized by the U.S. Navy and piloted to Hawaii, where military engineers gleaned their secrets before sending the subs to the ocean floor.

Additional Notes from Guest Historian Scott Palter:
1) Note that his POD could be such as revolution in doctrine and practice. The funny part of all this is they had access to the Germans [Axis] and the British [joint service in WW1, Alliance till 1922] so it is not impossible. It merely didn't fit the idiot Bushido Spirit that captured the lower officer ranks 20's/30's.
2) The issue has been argued on H-War for years. Except for one brief period by a few subs off the Australian east coast 1942-43 the IJN simply didn't play the commerce raider game with subs. Indeed a few German/italian subs did more damage out of Malaya than the entire IJN per a few posts by people with decent books to their credit.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-01-24 05:04:01 ~ I take it that the US is still selling Japan scrap, and they are still getting oil from the Netherlands East Indies. IF that is the case, and they're up to their necks against the Soviets (strength to their arms!) why would they consider war with the US? What would have happened if the Japanese had overrun, and publicized, a few of the Gulag's nastier camps---maybe the same ones in Kolyma that Western useful idiots had assured the world were like health resorts?

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-01-24 10:25:42 ~ I will take the exitance of these super subs on faith. There is a Wiki which at least means the story has more depth than the usual History Channel fodder. Now tell me why the Japanese would use these in the manner you suggest. One of the silly but true stories of the Pacific War is the refusal of the IJN to use their large and quite well designed sub fleet for serious anti-commerce work as opposed to hunting warships and fleet scouting.



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On this day in 1990, opening arguments were heard in the trial of the mastermind of the Ceaucescus' escape from Romania.

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On this day in 1969, Apollo 4 returned from its historic lunar orbital docking mission.

The lessons learned from the Apollo 4 mission would stand NASA in good stead during the Apollo 5 lunar landing flight six months later.

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In 2005, Jeanna Best goes in to work for Austin lawyer Jack Armstrong and gets called into his office. Armstrong asks her about her illness on the previous Saturday, and she replies that it was a little 24-hour bug. She notes that he does not use the last two fingers on either hand at all, and barely contains her shudders of fear; she also notes the defense contract lying on his desk for a company called Myrmidon.

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In 1943, General Friedrich von Paulus of the German Underground, commanding officer of the 6th Army, requested permission from Adolf Hitler to accept the surrender of Greater Zionist Resistance soldiers in Russia. General von Paulus had no stomach for the sort of war that the G.U. was waging, and Hitler threatened to replace him if he didn't acquire one, saying, 'The 6th Army will exterminate the Zionists down to the last man'.

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In 1908, the Young Comrades organization begins among British Communists and quickly spreads to America. Although officially repressed by the British government, the Comrades are embraced by their comrades in America, and many leaders in the Soviet States today were Young Comrades in their boyhood

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In 1184, after a year on deserted Bermuda, Mikhail von Heflin and Velma Porter decide that they've had enough of a vacation, and strike out for the North American coast in one of the boats they have constructed. While en route, they encounter another rift in time/space. They don't try to evade it; Porter says, 'I just hope it doesn't send us back to the stone age.'

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In 1781, Canadian guerilla fighters known only as Snow Fox and Light Foot stage a hugely successful raid on the British garrison at Fort George in Quebec. The fort was completely destroyed, and the British abandoned the region because of the popular support for the Snow Fox.

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In 1984, Apple Computers released the Macintosh, a personal computer with a graphical user interface, rather than the command line that most PC's had used up to that point. This innovation, although not unique to Apple, rocketed them to the top of the computing world. By the end of the decade, they produced almost 80% of the computers used in America, and their operating system, licensed out to other computer manufacturers, today accounts for around 90% of the computing done in the world.

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In 1986, Ron Hubbard, known for his rollicking western pulps in the 30's and 40's, and his more epic detective and western fiction afterwards, died at his home in San Francisco, California. Reverend Hubbard, who was ordained in the Church of Christ and led a huge congregation in San Francisco, always said he was unafraid to die, since that was the last promotion God could give him.

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In 1914, almost a year after vowing he would never work on it again, Franz Kafka finished his novel Amerika. Although most critics say that the beginning is a powerful tale of a European boy banished to America by scandal, the ending where the boy is turned into a sheep and eaten by coyotes in Oklahoma does tend to throw most people.

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In 793 AUC Caligula, who had briefly served as Rome's emperor before a brain fever drove him mad, dies under the care of doctors in Rome. Hard as it was for Romans to depose an emperor, Caligula was clearly in no condition to continue to serve Rome as its leader. Rumors that he even began speaking to his horse were never confirmed, but were not doubted.

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In 1732, French playwright and revolutionary Pierre de Beaumarchais is born in Paris, France. He was influential in supporting both the French Revolution and the independence movement in North America that created the North American Confederation. His plays Le Barbier de Seville and Le Mariage de K'Tem'La were banned until after the revolution, since they were critical of the nobility of France.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Axis invasion of North-East India had succeeded? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1897, on this day "Respected Leader" Subhas Chandra Bose was born in Cuttack, Orissa British India.

Birth of Subhas Chandra BoseHe was one of the most prominent Indian nationalist leaders who gained India's independence from British rule by force during the waning years of World War II with the help of the Axis powers.

Bose, who had been ousted from the Indian National Congress in 1939 following differences with the more conservative high command, and subsequently placed under house arrest by the British, escaped from India in early 1941. He turned to the Axis powers for help in gaining India's independence by force. With Japanese support, he organised the Indian National Army, composed largely of Indian soldiers of the British Indian army who had been captured in the Battle of Singapore by the Japanese.

At the age of forty-five, he raised the flag of Indian independence at Calcutta. The Provisional Government of Azad Hind, presided by Bose became the successor to the bankrupt British Raj, looking into an exhilarating new future with a shiny new confidence for the second half of the twentieth century. An installment from the Quit India thread


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Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-01-23 12:27:46 ~ But would it have worked if not for Mahatma Ghandi and his passive resistance movement. And the Engish would certainly not have bowed to his moral authority if his country had joined the Axis.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2013-01-23 15:49:22 ~ Bose the bastard.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-01-23 18:47:00 ~ Once they got a good close-up look at life under Japanese domination, the Indians would be screaming for the Raj to return. And afterwards "Bose" would join "Quisling" in the litany of traitors.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-01-23 21:35:32 ~ Japan was stretched really thin at that point, so they much not have much of a heel to oppress with. India might have some autonomy, but with Japanese backing, it'd be extremely easy to form a dictatorship.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if George Washington had died after Philadelphia? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1737, on this day American merchant and statesman John Hancock was born in Braintree in the Province of Massachusetts Bay.

Birth of John Hancock, ReduxA prominent Patriot of the American Revolution, he served as the President of the Continental Congress and placed the most prominent signature on the Declaration of Independence.

However his final years were marred with bitter disappointment. After the demise of General Washington in the tragedy at Elk River, he emerged as an expedient choice for successor candidate. But his national leadership was overwhelmed by determined challenges to the ratification process.

It soon began to appear distinctly possible that two nations might emerged from the crisis, a northern Federalist state led by John Adams, and an anti-Federalist country led by Thomas Jefferson and his lieutenant James Madison. Not being a conviction Federalist, this ideological division paralyzed his figurehead-style candidacy. And without a robust doctrine he also lacked the moral authority of the illustrious Father of the Nation. By the time of his premature death in 1793, he was a marginalized figure out of time. An echo of revolutionary fervour inadequately equipped to confront the challenges of self-rule. An installment from the American Heroes thread


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, A variant to Robbie Taylor's version Birth of John Hancock in which the revolution heads north into Canada after the troubles in the Colonies end AND Eric Lipps President John Hancock in which Washington refuses the Presidency.


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Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2013-01-23 08:24:11 ~ Not that big a surprise, and the issue of slaveary which eventually served to keep Engladn and France from siding with the Confederacy, was buried in post-Revolutionary War compromises.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-01-23 18:25:02 ~ He might have risen to the challenge. Nobody thought Truman was much of anything till he got into the White House.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-01-23 21:37:31 ~ His foreign policy might be solid stuff with his knowledge of maritime trade. American expansionism might've gone overseas.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the confusion of languages had been visited upon Noah's children? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1757 post-creation, Noah's great-grandson the arrogant tyrant Nimrod resolved to build a city with a tower "with its top in the heavens...lest we [unified humanity] be scattered abroad upon the face of the Earth".

Babylon and TingAlthough Yahweh had promised not to unleash another flood, Noah's children had been divided by language into different tongues. After a long migration from the East, their grand children had finally settled in the plain of Shinar where they hoped that a new ziggurat would symbolise their indivisible unity.

Of itself, the structure proposed by Nimrod was contemporary being a towering building upon square foundations with steps up the side leading to a shrine to honour the deity. But its monumental height revealed a shocking self-pride that deeply offended Yahweh.

HE responded to this ultimate challenge to HIS authority by confounding the will of mankind. Once again supplicant to the deity, Nimrod and his people were reduced to a race of babbling men and women doomed to live in the shadow of their own depravity.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in Genesis Chapter 11 it is recorded that the language of man was confounded, although there is a consistency due to the earlier division of tongues amongst Noah's children. The word Babel (phonetically similiar to babble and also Babylon) might imply the multiple tongues after God confounded the language of man, dividing unified humanity. Of course mankind had built many more such works, and hence in this article we imagine that God decides to confound the will of man instead.


Readers Comment Sailorbarsoom commented on 2012-01-23 00:36:30 ~ You know, it's been a long time since this whole Tower of Babel thing, and we're about there with pocket translators. Maybe it's time to build another tower to the heavens. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_tower

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-01-23 01:27:48 ~ That picture---was it taken from Chick Comics? Not being a biblical literalist, I can't really comment.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-23 16:01:44 ~ Men's will is pretty confounded as is. Ought we pursue service of the state? Uphold our families? Build? Educate? Meaning of life stuff... What if God actually did confound the will of man e.g. we are the babbling, confused people that God punished, and the Sethians through the Nimrod were actually more cogent?



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Young Henry VIII had died jousting in 1510? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1510, a mere nine months after his coronation, the brave and cunning King Henry VIII of England died while jousting incognito at Richmond in North Yorkshire. Only eighteen years old, Henry had been married to his brother Arthur's widow, Catherine of Aragon, shortly after his father's death.

Young Henry VIII Dies Jousting Remaining something of a wild prince, Henry sneaked away from court and participated in the lists in Yorkshire, jousting admirably until a spur broke and the mysterious knight was thrown to the ground, breaking his neck. It was a tragedy that would ignite the War of English Succession.

Succession had already recently been a violent matter in England Wars of the Roses between the House of Lancaster and the House of York. After much bloodshed, the overall question was solved completely by the marriage of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York, bringing the two houses together. Henry VII had known that the key to continuing the newly conquered peace was firm succession, and the tragic death of Arthur had put a great deal of pressure on young Henry to live long and produce a male heir. With no heir, the crown was in the air, readying to be caught by any of a number of successors.

A new story by Jeff ProvineIn England, men with lesser holds to the crown were beaten out by the overall clout of Queen Catherine of Aragon. Though technically a Spaniard, she held great cunning herself as well as the significant economic and military influence from her father Ferdinand II. Acting as a placeholder, she would chose from the many English who wished to be king and marry him with blessing of the Pope.

Meanwhile, the diplomatic dealings of Henry VII had expanded the Tudor claims beyond the English borders. His daughter Margaret had married James IV of Scotland while his daughter Mary Tudor had married the aged Louis XII of France. Louis' claim was weak at best, especially as he only had daughters and neither from Mary, but he threw his support behind James as the Auld Alliance had tied the two nations together against England for centuries. James decided he must secure the crown for a future son, so he embarked on an invasion of England.

Catherine called up support from her father in Spain, who sailed a fleet of troops to London to bolster her forces. The English reacted negatively to the foreign soldiers, and local approval of Catherine began to decline, either in favor of less powerful claims or toward James. Civil war broke out among the factions, and James attempted serious invasion where he could garner his support. Meanwhile, he called to Louis for aid, which the French were slow to supply as they were fighting in Italy with the Venetians, who had taken up an alliance with the Papal States. In 1512, the Pope would declare a Holy League against France, allowing Spain to join in an alliance directly against France as well as Scotland, and the War of the League of Cambrai expanded to become a theater mirroring the war in England.

Battles in England would teach James the valuable lesson of keeping back his officers rather than placing them on the front line as leading knights and using pikes like the medieval model. His great victory would come at Flodden Field, September 9, 1513, when he, unscratched, led his army to a crushing victory over mixed Spanish and English supporting Catherine. Following the victory swiftly by a march to London, where the English dukes would swear allegiance and Catherine would escape to Spain. She would hold great prestige in her father's court as the "rightful Queen of England" but never again rule. Meanwhile, James would solidify his command and begin building up a great fleet using England's naval prestige, sparking wars among Spain, France, the Dutch, and Scotch England over influence in the Americas and East Indies.

The Union of Britain would ultimately be short-lived as the English chafed under Scottish rule by James III. Ultimately, the English Parliament would lead the rebellion, splitting up the island once again and separating colonies into competing spheres.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Henry survived his jousting and gained great applause before revealing himself as king to the amazement of the crowd. His reign would continue until 1547, during which he would conduct numerous wars and overthrow the Catholic influence in England to secure a divorce from Catherine in his attempt to achieve a male heir. James IV would indeed go to war against England following the Auld Alliance as Henry invaded France, but he would be rebuffed at the disastrous Battle of Flodden, where James would be killed as Catherine served as Regent in Henry's absence.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-23 17:52:00 ~ This would have almost certainly revived the Yorkist cause---IIRC there were still some people around who could make a claim to be a Yorkist heir, like Margaret of Salisbury. Scotland conquering England's not as likely; Scotland was much poorer and smaller, and the nobles were less under royal control than England. The King of Scots was more _primus inter pares_ than the King of England.

Facebook Comment Comment from Beth Belgard Crader on Facebook: Guess there would not be a Church of England, Anglicans or Episcopalians...............

Facebook Comment Comment from Alan Abramowitz on Facebook: Aye, but would England be Protestant?

Facebook Comment Comment from Arlena Arteaga Kelly on Facebook: Holy smokes this is a mind bender. Catherine was immensely popular and had the backing of the English people even though she was a foreigner. Civil war would have ensued with the factions mentioned, but the English Reformation and consequently the colonial patronage under Elizabeth would be up for grabs.

Facebook Comment Comment from Larry Drennan on Facebook: Catherine weds Phillip and the Protestant Reformation is set-back 75 yrs because we got no Elizabeth, no James the First, No Wm/Mary, oh and you know that funny little Dutch Colony in the America's , snuffed out by the Spanish Empire, The entire Western Hemisphere is a Catholic Province, French Huegonauts don't get a toe-hold, etc etc

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Google+ Comments Comment from Valerie Clark on Google+ I prefer this much over Catherine being sent away to die in a damp, cold tower never to see her beloved daughter again. Then, you knock out Herman's Hermits hit Henry the VIII, I am??

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-01-23 12:25:02 ~ Too bad Henry's father killed off all the male heirs and some females, too.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if George Washington refused the Presidency? muses Eric Lipps. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1793, John Hancock, first president of the United States of America, celebrated his fifty-seventh birthday.

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Hancock had been an unlikely choice for that position. It had been all but universally agreed at the Philadelphia constitutional convention that George Washington would be the first president under the new system. Unfortunately for that plan, the strongest dissent came from Washington himself, who disliked politics and preferred to remain in private life. Efforts to persuade him to accept the office were finally answered by direct reference to the apparent fix in his favor: "I have made clear my disinterest in the office of Chief Magistrate, being inclined to retire to private life after having served my country in peace and war. And I emphatically do not wish to receive the office as a gift, making at its very inception a mockery of the new democracy we have fought so hard to create".

With the heroic general out of the picture, the Electoral College found itself unable to agree on a replacement. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Jay, John Rutledge of South Carolina, Samuel Huntington of Connecticut, New Yorker New Yorkers George Clinton and Alexander Hamilton, and Hancock's fellow Bay Stater Benjamin Lincoln were all touted as candidates.

In the end, it was Hancock's prestige as president of the Second Continental Congress, at which he had overseen the debate over the Declaration of Independence, which carried the day for him. Hancock had established himself as a man of absolute fairness and integrity at that time, and had done nothing since to sully his reputation. "If we cannot have Washington", one elector is reported to have said, "there is no better choice than Mr. Hancock if we wish to establish the presidency as a seat of utter personal and political probity".

But Hancock's presidency was a troubled one. The new United States was continually harassed by Great Britain at sea and through Native American proxies on land, and struggled to make ends meet financially. Nor did it help that Hancock's health was failing, often limiting his ability to respond promptly to political difficulties. In October of 1791, only the personal intervention of Washington prevented a military coup on the part of officers demanding payment of their salaries in gold rather than rapidly inflating paper currency, a repetition of a similar crisis in 1782 during the Revolution: at the crucial moment, Hancock was too ill to act.

By 1791 Hancock had made it clear that he would not seek or accept a second presidential term, opening the door to the fiercely contested election of 1792 which would place Alexander Hamilton in the presidency - the only individual born outside the United States ever to hold the office. (The Constitution's requirement that presidents be native-born contained an exemption for those who were U.S. citizens at its adoption).

President Hancock's decision not to seek reelection proved prescient, for he would live only five more months after leaving office on March 4, 1793. Had he died while president, there might have been a national crisis, for while the Constitution provided that the vice-president - John Adams, in this case - would act as president, there was disagreement over whether he should remain in that position until the next scheduled election year or only until a new, emergency election could be called, and Adams had more than his share of detractors. The issue would not be clarified until the passage of the Eleventh Amendment in 1801, following the bitterly contested 1800 election, which specified explicitly in one of its several clauses that in the event of "presidential death or disability" the vice-president "shall become president, with all powers, privileges and responsibilities pertaining to that office, and shall serve until the next scheduled election as provided by law, at which he shall be eligible" to seek another term.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-04-10 16:45:08 ~ I wonder if Hancock's picture would be on the $1.00 bill?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-04-10 19:24:57 ~ I thought of that myself, just now. It seems likely, assuming this U.S. uses paper currency rather than making a fetish of specie.

Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-04-10 20:36:41 ~ John Hancock was one hell of a nice guy but a poor general and mediocre politician. I doubt he would have done very well as President. He certainly had the ego but not much beyond that.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2012-01-23 09:45:26 ~ Without the robust Washington in charge, at least the question of succession gets answered early in the republic's history

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-23 16:20:13 ~ Nice of Washington to appear in 1791. After Shay's Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion, it would be easy for the fledgling US to splinter or end up as a short-lived dictatorship.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what would the Third Gulf War look like? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2016, in a ruthless attempt to alter the world energy equation, the Islamic Republic of Iran mined the Strait of Homuz. "Underwatch" submarines began patrolling the mine-fields And the leadership of the United States was forced to confront the first major act of regional aggression in over a quarter of a century.

Change We Can Believe InThis confrontation presented a unique challenge to Barack Obama in the final year of his Presidency. Shortly after taking office, he had received the Nobel Peace Prize for his bold decision to accelerate the withdrawal of US troops from both Iraq and Afghanistan. His remaining years had focused on reconciliation projects in those new nations, allowing the US leadership to concentrate more fully on domestic issues such as universal healthcare and the economy. Allowing Obama to be re-elected by a landslide; but now that legacy was in jeopardy.

The crisis had not been precipitated by the military chauvinism of the "Great Satan". Instead, the "reverse energy shock" of 2014 triggered the collapse of oil and gas prices, stagnating the Iranian economy. Strategists at the Pentagon now realised the last six and a half years had simply been a "strategic pause" in the long-running conflict that first began with the fall of the Shah in 1979. Pure and simply, it was a a fight for oil, and this time, the United States wasn't the aggressor.

"America has a secret plan to unblock the Strait of Homuz without risking the loss of a single American life" ~ ObamaSeeking to force a showdown whilst avoiding outright war, military planners were ordered to war-game the 1962 blockade the island of Cuba - but in reverse. The result was a devilishly cunning plan to dispatch mother-submarines containing tiny, unmanned, robotic mini-subs into the Persian Gulf. And the robotic submarines contained unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that theoretically could sweep a grid the size of the Persian Gulf in a single day. These "whiskers" or "teeth" would serve in a dual purpose, by acting as force multipliers, whilst eliminating any possibility of human casualties. That was the untested theory, anyway and you have to admit, it did sound rather good on paper.


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Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-01-23 03:11:33 ~ "reverse energy shock"? LOL Comment from Ed.: thats the name of the concept behind the Streetfighter Military Scenario, its a Pentagon phrase :-)

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-01-23 06:01:12 ~ Why would the Iranians mine the only way they have to get their oil to market?

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2010-01-23 13:38:12 ~ One may argue that it was an attempt to get only ships that they can escort through (who, incidentally, would pay dearly for the privlige), but I suspect shortsightedness and stupidity is at least as likely.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2010-01-23 13:43:07 ~ Exactly in this Pentagon scenario, Iran is attempting to reduce oil supply and use their naval forces to permit only domestic production (or as HT says, controlled quantities of non Iranian production) to get through the Gulf.

Facebook Comment Comment from Scott Palter on Facebook: The big winner is Russia. The big loser is East Asia [in both cases from huge run-up in oil prices till crisis is resolved]. US + GCC run the table and bomb Iran back into the stone age.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the US fought parallel conflicts in Cuba and Vietnam during the 1960s and 1970s? muses Eric Lipps. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1977, newly inaugurated U.S. President James Earl Carter ignites a storm of controversy when, in response to a reporter's question, he suggests that American troops should be withdrawn from Cuba and Vietnam.

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"In both nations," he declares, "whatever threat to American security and American interests might have emanated from those nations is past. Maintaining a large troop presence indefinitely in both Cuba and Vietnam places an unnecessary burden upon this nation". He goes on to state that he plans to open negotiations aimed at arranging an orderly U.S. withdrawal, to be accompanied by "free and fair elections" which Carter will invite the United Nations to monitor.

Conservatives respond with fury, denouncing Carter's words as a "sellout to Communism". Zealous right-wing pundit Patrick Buchanan storms that Carter is opening the door for Fidel Castro, who has carried on a guerrilla resistance since his ouster in April 1961 by a Cuban insurgent force backed up by the U.S. military, to return to power. Buchanan also charges that if Carter's plan is carried out, the "ragtag remnants" of the Vietcong and the former North Vietnamese Army will be freed to "undo the progress of freedom in Southeast Asia purchased at the cost of so many American lives".

Many ordinary Americans, however, applaud Carter's words. At a time when there is supposedly a new "detente" between the U.S. and its Communist adversaries, the USSR and the People's Republic of China, the continuing stream of American casualties in two guerrilla wars against Marxist insurgencies in small, unimportant countries has come to seem increasingly pointless.
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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this thread we explore the possibility of parallel conflicts in Cuba and Vietnam during the 1960s and 1970s. Please note that the Linebacker thread is set in a congruent timeline but extends in a different direction into the 1970s; the POD for both is the last minute pardon of Alger Hiss by President Harry S. Truman.


Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2012-01-24 01:29:15 ~ I think it's possible that a nation which would have supported multi-decade wars in both Cuba and Vietnam would not have elected Jimmy Carter. I believe Carter was elected in 1976 because the US was in a sort of malaise brought on by a bad economy and the withdrawal from Vietnam.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2012-01-24 01:29:15 ~ Of course Jimmy Carter was a former naval officer so what about if he was the same physical being but fundamentally a very different man?

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2012-01-24 01:29:25 ~ You have to remember that Carter went to the Naval Academy. I'm not overly familiar with his background, but he grew up at a time in the United States when only wealthy people went to college. Thus, the Academy may have been his only option for further education. In short, I'm not sure he would have been a naval officer had he grown up in a wealthier family.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-01-24 01:50:55 ~ Not really. The last American troops were gone by early 1973. The real economic problem was "stagflation" caused by a vast increase in the cost of oil imports beginning in October, 1973. It was the beginning of a continuous decline in the American standard of living. And still people buy gigantic pickups. Until we get a handle on imports, especially oil and manufactured goods, we'll never recover.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-01-24 01:50:58 ~ By 1977, Castro would have been dead or in a Russian dacha for over a decade.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-01-24 03:41:59 ~ I don't think that resistance would have continued in Cuba---it's a lot closer to home and more "like us," so we'd have an easier time there.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-01-24 12:10:59 ~ Jimmy Carter was not elected just "because the US was in a sort of malaise brought on by a bad economy and the withdrawal from Vietnam." Carter was elected in large part because of Watergate and Ford's controversial pardon of Nixon for any and all offenses he might have committed in that affair. One of Carter's campaign slogans was "I'll never lie to you." So while it's possible Carter might not have been ellected, it's also possible he might have been--especialy if the nation were growng weary of those "multi-decade wars."

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-24 16:03:23 ~ If he pulls it off successfully, he might be one of our fondestly remembered presidents. Wonder what the Iran of this world is doing.



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In 1957, on this day the Canadian Football League announced its regular season schedule would be expanded to 18 games for the 1957 season; the new longer schedule would be tough on all CFL franchises, but it would be particularly hard on the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, who with many of their Grey Cup championship-era players gone from the roster stumbled out of the gate and would finish the year with a disappointing 7-10-1 record.

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The 1957 CFL season would also see the league grow to twelve teams with the formation of the Moncton Whalers, the Halifax Whitecaps, and the Medicine Hat Red Dragons.


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In 1000 Post-Creation, Gabriel issues his challenge to Heaven.

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In 47,373 BCE, after her second rainy season with the Australian tribe she had married into, Telka the Speaker falls ill, and calls out for her great-granddaughter. Swikolay had been traveling around the continent, and it took several days for Telka?s tribesmen to find her. By the time she arrived, the Speaker was almost dead. 'I will not touch the sky,' she told Swikolay. 'Touch it for me.' Those were her last words; she lapsed into a coma and died within hours. Swikolay asked that she be burnt and her ashes thrown into the wind so that she might touch the sky in death.

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