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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the British had not captured New Amsterdam? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the April 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1626, on this day Dutch explorer Peter Minuit arrives in New Netherland aboard the See Meeuw.

Nieuw-Nederland foundedover the course of the next three centuries, Nieuw-Nederland would develop side-by-side with the United States. The two nations had grown up alongside one another as Europeans colonized North America. The English threatened to eliminate the Dutch from their holdings of New Amsterdam when four frigates occupied the harbor. Director-General Peter Stuyvesant, after considering ceding the land in hopes of retaking it, decided to head off a Second Anglo-Dutch War and refused. After firing on the city, the frigates were rebuffed and returned to England empty-handed.

Since that time, New Amsterdam quickly expanded. Jews ousted from Brazil as Portugal retook Dutch conquests flooded into the city, and immigrants from all over the world were accepted. The economy flourished as pelts were harvested from the upper Hudson and established shipping. When the twin states of New England and Great Virginia declared independence from Britain, the Dutch granted support first financially and then through its impressive navy. When Napoleon conquered the Netherlands in Europe, Neiu Nederlands announced its own independence.A new article by Jeff Provine

Relations between Neiu Nederlanders and Americans were amicable. They were particularly close with New England due to ties in shipping and manufacturing, although relations were at times strained while the United States to the south determining water rights of Lake Erie. When New England broke off trade with the US over slavery, the Nederlanders maintained a lucrative neutrality. The sudden surge of trade brought about a new golden age, which led to a great deal of corruption that responded in a powerful Progressive Movement, headed by the young Theodoor van Rosevelt.

Rosevelt was part of the wealthy and politically influential family that had begun with Claes Maartenszen van Rosevelt, who purchased a large farm on Manhattan Island that would translate into enormous wealth as the city grew. Theodoor was born in 1858 and struggled through his childhood suffering from asthma. He overcame the disease by determination and exercise with seeming limitless energy, features that would define his life. After his education, Theodoor traveled extensively to the American West as well as Dutch holdings in the Caribbean and South America. He returned and entered civil service, soon becoming Director of the Navy where he built a canal through Panama and led the Great White Fleet on its tour around the world. By 1910, he was elected President.

When war erupted in Europe, Rosevelt hoped to join quickly and use the impressive New Dutch fleet, but business was too good trading through the neutral Netherlands. Despite his extensive campaigning, it wasn't until the Americans threatened Germany that he finally gained the agreement of shipping interests who disapproved of attacks by uboats. In 1917, unrestricted submarine warfare resumed, and a joint declaration of war was announced. Thanks to Rosevelt's anticipation, New Dutch troops joined the front almost immediately.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Johnny Depp played Iron Man? muses Andrew Beane. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2012, on this day the blockbuster movie Marvel's The Avengers premiered worldwide with Johnny Depp the surprise casting choice for the role of Tony Stark, genius, billionaire, playboy, and philanthropist with a mechanical suit of armor.

Premiere of Marvel's The Avengers
by Ed & Andrew Beane
Insurance issues had forced Robert Downey, Jr. to forced to withdraw and an opportunity was created for Depp to reportray Stark in a more eccentric caricature.

But the negative consequence of this choice was that he was unavailable for the shooting of Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. Film makers Rob Marshall and Jerry Bruckheimer turned to British actor Russell Brand who redefined the role of Captain Jack Sparrow.


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Readers Comment Andrew Beane commented on 2012-06-23 00:01:59 ~ Your choice of Russell Brand is the icing on the cake

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-06-23 03:11:46 ~ WHAT? Someone else playing Jack Sparrow, other than Johnny Depp? Now that IS beyond belief! I mean, we could put up with George Washington siding with George III...or Bonnie Prince Charlie conquering England...or Franz Ferdinand surviving Sarajevo...BUT NOT THIS!

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-06-23 07:23:24 ~ Not being familiar with Russell Brand, or fond of superhero movies, I can't really comment.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-06-23 14:44:13 ~ Was thinking yesterday, what if Ed Norton was the new Thin Man?



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the elimination of J. Edgar Hoover had been a libertarian disaster? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the February 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1872, on this day the twenty-ninth President of the United States, Alexander M. Palmer was born in White Haven, Pennsylvania.

Alexander M. Palmer
29th President of the United States
He rose to national prominence serving as the fiftieth Attorney General, winning a great deal of public support for the organization of a series of high profile raids on Galleanist anarchists. And within the Justice Department he established a General Intelligence Division that soon became a storehouse of information about radicals in America.

But he exercised his own judgement in rejecting GID's flimsy evidence of plans for an attempted overthrow of the U.S. government on May Day 1920. Instead he fired the hot-headed and unbalanced principal officer J. Edgar Hoover. Fate intervened when President Wilson was assassinated less than six weeks after he resigned the office to seek the Democratic nomination.

With the country in turmoil, his staunch law enforcement credentials enabled him to defeat his main party rival James Cox. And he persuaded his other chief opponent William McAdoo to serve as his running mate. This pairing provided the regional balance to the ticket that defeated Warren Harding in the General election.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality he acted upon the May Day Warning. a decision which contributed to his defeat by the eventual Democrat nominee James Cox. But in this article explore a point of divergence discussed on Alternate History and repurpose content from Wikipedia.


Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-01-29 13:52:57 ~ Palmer was an anti-Communist zealot who would have been unlikely to fire Hoover, whose career he had helped cultivate. (Unless, of course, hehad started hearing rumors about Hoover's, ahem, personal proclivities; those would have offended the pious Quaker.)

Readers Comment John Braungart commented on 2012-01-29 16:44:54 ~ Two points; 1) from what I have read (also on SHWI), 1920 was the Republicans' year because the voter hatred for Wilson and "his" Democrats. Even if Harding had been found in bed with a 15-year-old girl, he could have still pulled it off. And 2) if Romney is having troubles being a Mormon in 2012, what kind of troubles would Palmer have has in 1920 being a Quaker? I know that Hoover didn't seem to have any like problems ten years later, but I don't know about the mindset earlier.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-01-29 19:24:44 ~ Mr. Braungart brings up some interesting points.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-01-31 16:05:30 ~ Quakerism could have been seen as a good thing. No more wars. (still a stretch, tho)



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if humiliation in the Falklands lead to defeat in the Cold War? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1982, on this day the Argentinian Air Force operating outside the Total Exclusion Zone accidentally shot down a USAF Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker, one of the aerial refueling military aircraft provided on loan to the British Government for the duration of the Falklands Conflict.

Blushes of the Loaner Arranger
By Ed and Matthew Dattillo
The arrangement of the loaners was the result of a compromise in the transatlantic alliance, because the original request was for aircraft carriers of the US Navy. To ensure that refusal did not offend, President Reagan observed that such a requisition was practically infeasible because the Royal Navy simply did not have the trained servicemen to operate the carriers. Ironically, the ARA fleet command vessel General Belgrano was the reconditioned USS Phoenix (CL-46), an ageing light cruiser which had survived the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and was even now being operated by Argentine sailors.

The truth was that the Organization of American States (OAS) was head-quartered in Washington minutes away from the White House where Reagan was speaking on the hot phone to Thatcher. During these critical years of the Cold War, the United States simply could not afford to take the risk of such unilateral action and be stigmatized as an imperialist bullyclub in the eyes of the South American nations.

In the event, the transatlanic alliance was deeply humiliated anyway. With defeat looming, Thatcher threatened to deploy nuclear weapons in the South Atlantic, and Reagan was forced to tell her to stand down. The "Falklands Factor" cost the Conservatives the 1983 election, and Michael Foot was elected on a unilateral nuclear disarmament platform. One of his earliest decisions was to close the American nuclear base at Greenham Common.

The only real victor of the Falklands Conflict was the President of Argentina, the "Iron Lady" Eva Perón.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-10-31 13:44:05 ~ This is some scary !@$#, man.

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2011-11-05 11:59:28 ~ Hey targets outside the exclusion zone are ligitimate targets just the same. That's why the Brits sank the Belgrano.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2011-11-05 12:28:47 ~ No way would Foot have ever won an election.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-11-05 18:18:29 ~ "Imperialist bullyclub?" Great line---consider it stolen!

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-11-06 00:09:36 ~ I was 11 years old during the Falklands war (I turned 11 on May 11th while the fighting was still ongoing). My dad was in the Navy during the Korean War and was familiar with Royal Navy operations during that time. When he heard about HMS Sheffield, I remember him saying, "My God! What the hell happened? It's the Royal Navy!" The US actually did supply some air-to-air missiles, anti-sub equipment and intelligence info to the UK during the war, although this was kept secret at the time.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-11-07 00:26:50 ~ As the man said, no nukes is good nukes.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if George H.W. Bush had died in 1991? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1991, on this day the forty-first President of the United States, George H.W. Bush was transferred by helicopter to Bethesda Naval Hospital after experiencing a shortness of breath, chest tightness, and a general feeling of fatigue while jogging at Camp David.

A Heartbeat AwayPhysicians immediately detected a rapid irregular heartbeat leading to a diagnosis that Bush was suffering from atrial fibrillation due to hyperthyroidism. When the prescription of digitalis, procainamide, and Coumadin failed to arrest the arrhythmia, an electrical shock was administered. Tragically, Bush went into cardiac arrest during this cardioversion, dying only minutes later.

Under the provisions of the Twenty-fifth Amendment, Dan Quayle was already the acting president. And now a different kind of shock was about to reverberate across the nation.


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Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2010-09-15 05:34:56 ~ And he exceeds expectations?Or fails dismally?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-09-15 05:39:23 ~ I always thought that Quayle was unfairly dismissed as a dimwit---up till he got tapped for the Veep slot, he was very much an up-and-comer in the Senate. Unfortunately, the media-filth are 99 percent Democratic true believers, and saw an opening.

Readers Comment John Braungart commented on 2010-09-15 11:58:54 ~ He'd STILL be Dan Quayle, a.k.a. Mr. Patatoehead....

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-09-15 12:33:55 ~ This is the guy, remeember, who advocated colonizing Mars because, he said, "there are canals on Mars, and canals mean water, and water means life." AAAAAAAAAAAA! Everything would depend on who HIS VP was: whether it was another boob, an evil-vizier type like Dick Cheney, or someone better, perhaps urged on him by party leaders. (Dole, for instance: I didn't like his politics, but at least he had some sense.)

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-09-15 16:05:09 ~ Everyone would, teeth-clenched, count down to the next November... except comedians, of course. The next year's political jokes would already be written.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2010-09-16 16:35:40 ~ He could shock the nation by being a supremely competent centrist Chief Executive... but I doubt it.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Barack Obama was an even more fake cowboy? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 2010, the Cowboy movie genre was transformed with the movie premiere of the retro blaxploitation blockbuster "The Doc" starring the new King of Cool, African American actor Barry Obama.

Big F*#cking DealSeven years had passed since the release of the last great movie, Cowboy Dick Cheney's final film "The Bush Brothers Ride Again".

"The Doc" arrives in town with imaginative plans to dispense medicine to the people of Jackson, Wyoming.

But it does not take long for resistance to be demonstrated by the townsfolk as the movie zooms in on the whites-only Cowboy image.

And in an early sign that his good intentions will be distrusted, the bigoted Sherrif Joe Biden dismissed "The Doc" with the barbed complement that he is "the first articulate, bright and clean black doctor" in Wyoming.

But at the climax of the movie, "The Doc" saves the Sherrif's life, forcing Biden to reluctantly admit his medicine is a "Big F*#cking Deal".
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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-05-04 06:43:40 ~ They ended up making it into an HBO series, which ran for three years to high praise, and then ended suddenly without resolving any of the plot threads. George W. Bush played the evil saloonkeeper Al Swearingen, and his wife played the crippled servant Jewel.

Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2010-08-31 03:23:59 ~ Good.Where did the divergence occur?

Readers Comment Michael Balikoff commented on 2010-08-31 03:41:49 ~ Where does George Washington and the cherry tree fit in?

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-31 15:29:44 ~ When will John McCain's "clean out the crooked governor" westerns get their due? Not the strongest movies ever, but they have heart!



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In 2015, on this day Alex Salmond was officially inaugurated as the first president of the Scottish Republic.

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Alex Salmond

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In 1898, one of the Greater Zionist Resistance's greatest leaders, Golda Meir, was born in Kiev. When the G.Z.R. took control of the Pale, her family joined its ranks, and she worked her way up its diplomatic ranks to lead the Russian Zionist Parliament before its destruction at the hands of the German Reich in 1948

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In 1999, Emperor Pierre of the Central European Empire, hearing the bombs fall on his fair capitol, puts in a desperate call to his agent in King Arthur's court, instructing the spy to, "do whatever is necessary, but stop this bombing!" Prime Minister Merl Myrddin, hearing the successful news from the front, decides to celebrate with a drink at his favorite London pub, where he unfortunately lets his guard down.A drug is slipped into his beer, and he disappears into the night. At the same time, labor leaders across western Europe are casting down the CEE's puppet governments and proclaiming themselves leaders of the nations; this has the unfortunate side effect of reducing their support for Sir Lance du Lac's drive to Switzerland. The great knight is forced to slow down his advance and deal with the demands from his allies about respecting their sovereign territory.

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In 1891, the judges at General Anthony Franklin's court-martial return a verdict of guilty against him, strip him of his rank, and sentence him to life in prison. Franklin is stunned, and weeps openly in the court, while his attorney, Captain David Danforth, vows to appeal directly to the president himself. Unfortunately for the former general, President Harrison is quite pleased with the verdict, and instructs his secretary to ignore Captain Danforth's requests for an appointment. Meanwhile, Governor Silas Trent of Missouri, touring the state to shore up his support after Franklin's Massacre, is set upon by a drunken mob in Jasper County, and killed for his support of the federal troops.

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In 2005, Chelsea Perkins and Debra Morris begin the spell to transport them back to the Great Tree. Unfortunately for them, the spell that had been cast on Chelsea by Patience Redding warps their teleportation spell into something else; when they exit the small vortex, they find themselves on an English country road.

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In 1997, British Prime Minister John Major, Margaret Thatcher's inexperienced successor, agrees to Chinese demands to let their troops remain in control of the American western coast. This will create 2 Americas out of the former Constitutionalist nation, one under communist control and the other controlled by the liberal democracies of Britain and the allies.

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In 1941, one of communism's most strident voices, Comrade George F. Will, was born in Champaign, Illinois Soviet. Will became a newspaper editorialist in the 1970?s, expounding on the rightness of America's war in Chile while supplying speeches to some of the Hall administration?s staff. He continues to blur the line between government and media even today.

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On this day in 1915, engine troubles forced the British steamship Lusitania to cancel a scheduled transatlantic voyage to New York City. Inconvenient though it might have seemed at first glance, however, this incident turned out to save the lives of her passengers and crew; three days later another ship traveling on the same route Lusitania was to have taken to New York got torpedoed by a German U-boat.

 - RMS Lusitania
RMS Lusitania

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In 1989, Oliver North was convicted of several counts of governmental malfeasance for his role in the Iran-Contra affair. Fortunate to have escaped charges of treason, North served 11 years before being paroled. After getting out, he attempted to enter the still-thriving world of conservative talk radio, but was so infamous that no station would touch him.

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In 1975, real estate tycoon Moses Horwitz died in his Long Island home. Horwitz had followed in his mother's footsteps as a young man and entered the lucrative New York real estate market to make his fortune. As a hobby, he supported his brothers' vaudeville routine for many years before it became evident that their Stooge act was going nowhere.

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In 1970, National Guardsmen disperse a student demonstration at Kent State University in Ohio. Although one hothead in the troops had fired at a demonstrator who threw a rock at him, officers were able to keep a rein on the situation and prevent bloodshed. The student organizers of the protest, also wishing to avoid violence, cooperated after the brief initial confrontation and got the crowd to go back to their dorms.

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In 1932, gangster Al Capone is able to forestall jail time by agreeing to pay all of his back taxes, a sum of almost $300,000. The government accepts the fine, much to the chagrin of the Treasury agents who have brought Capone in. Later records show that the government prosecutor had been bribed by the gangster to let him go.

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In 1930, Congress found the arguments of a thousand economists more compelling than those of the president, and defeated the protectionist Smoot-Hawley tariff act. Without the protections that would have been granted by the act, cheap foreign goods continued to flood the American market and the depression worsened.

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In 1814, former Italian Emperor Napoleon Buonaparte commenced his exile to Corsica. His old home had many sympathizers, and he was soon able to escape and attempt to regain his throne, but the allied northern Europeans forces soon captured him again and sent him back to his exile in Corsica. Broken and bitter, he died alone on the Mediterranean island.

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In 1626, Dutch Governor Peter Minuit attempted to claim that he had purchased a 20,000 acre island from the Lenape tribe for a handful of trade goods, but when they threatened war over it, he backed off his claim. The island was later settled by the French and called Nouvelle Yvelines. It became the hub of the greater expansion of French influence in the Atlantic northeast.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Golda Meir had remained in Milwaukee and mainstream politicians stayed anti-Israel? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1898, on this day Democrat Senator Golda Meyerson was born in Kiev.

Sen Golda Meyerson (D-WI)She would later note in her autobiography that her earliest memories were of her father Moshe Mabovitch, a carpenter boarding up the front door in response to rumors of an imminent pogrom. He left to find work in New York City in 1903, the rest of the family moved to Pinsk to join her mother's family. She had two sisters, Sheyna and Tzipke, as well as five other siblings who died in childhood. She was especially close to Sheyna. In 1905, Moshe moved to Milwaukee, Wisconsin in search of higher-paying work and found employment in the workshops of the local railroad yard. The following year, he had saved up enough money to bring his family to the United States.

At fourteen, she studied at North Division High School and worked part-time. Her mother wanted her to leave school and marry, but she rebelled. She bought a train ticket to Denver, Colorado, and went to live with her married sister, Sheyna Korngold. The Korngolds held intellectual evenings at their home, where Meir was exposed to debates on Zionism, literature, women's suffrage, trade unionism, and more. In her autobiography, she wrote: "To the extent that my own future convictions were shaped and given form... those talk-filled nights in Denver played a considerable role". In Denver, she also met Morris Meyerson, a sign painter, whom she later married on December 24, 1917. Despute many marital difficulties, the couple remained in Milwaukee where Golda eventually went into politics. In 1946 she saw off challenges from Robert LaFolette Jr. and Joseph McCarthy to win a seat in the U.S. Senate. Two years later her husband would be tragically killed during the brief attempt to establish a Jewish Homeland in Palestine.

During her tenure in the House, Golda would emerge as a key national advocate of the Jewish refugees who had settled in four locations in Alaska (Baranof Island and the Mat-Su Valley. Skagway, Petersburg and Seward) as a result of the 1940 Slattery Report. Just two weeks after Kristallnacht, the United States Department of the Interior under Secretary Harold L. Ickes had proposed the use of Alaska as a "haven for Jewish refugees from Germany and other areas in Europe where the Jews are subjected to oppressive restrictions". In recognition of the powerful support of this lonely voice in American politics, Meyerson had been chosen to represent the United States at the opening of the "Safety Pin", a tall building erected for the 1977 World Fair held in Sitka and a source of pride for its inhabitants. This event was marred by protests from the native Tlingit Alaska Natives partly as a result of the controversy when Meyerson had commented that "There is no such thing as a Tlingit Alaskan people"1, a bold statement intended to emphasise their integration rather than independence.

At the time of her death, representatives had been unable to persuade the US Government to extend statehood beyond the fifty year lifespan set down by Ickes with reversion of territory due to occur in 1992. Anti-semitic cynics in the House had labelled the failure of her campaign as "The Fall of the Third Temple".
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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in this post we explore a scenario on the Discussion Boards Senator Golda Meyerson (D-WI) in the context of the alternative history novel "The Yiddish Policemen's Union" by Michael Chabon (2007). We have also repurposed significant amounts of content from Wikipedia.
1) As Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir made the bold political statement: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people".
2) An expression attributed to Minister of Defence Moyshe Dayan during the Yom Kippur War.


Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-05-03 11:49:27 ~ The Zionists were offered land in Nairobi, if not Alaska...but wanted only their ancestral homeland of Palestine. Zionists had been buying land there since the late 1800s, when James Joyce had Leopold Bloom, his Dublin Jew, doing just that in Ulysses. As for there being a Palestinian people...if you watch the movie Exodus, you will be startled to learn that the Jewish settlers were called "Palestinians," while the Arabs were called, well, Arabs.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Ebenezer Scrooge acted as an intermediary with the Confederacy? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1861, President Jefferson Davis of the Confederacy met with Mr. Ebenezer Scrooge of the City of London that Friday and arrived at a mutual defense agreement.

The Scrooge ContributionScrooge's terms were set out admirably. The precision left no doubts in the minds of Davis' Cabinet that their new republic would get the support of the United Kingdom, Even better, the British Prime Minister, Lord Palmerston, had initiated the approach to the South and sent to Richmond his "gray eminence" and master banker.

Even so, the term required for Britiain's support of the South was a condition the South had never thought of making a factor of its struggle for independence. Over first discussion of the matter, Vice President Stephens and four members of the Confederate Cabinet (Toombs, Mallory, Memminger and Reagan) advised against it.

"If our survival as a nation came about at such a price to the Union we have left", said Toombs "we would be forever stand condemned before our erstwhile countrymen".

"Mr. Toombs", said Jefferson Davis. "we shall have to meet many challenges in the coming war, and not a few of the advantages we shall seek will bring severe criticism from the North. It is better that our Southern States have the North's condemnation of our agreements with allies than that the South do without such necessary aid".

The commotion raised in Parliament was considerable when news of the Scrooge Assignment was debated on the floor of the Commons. "Sensible men know the Scrooge Proposal is nothing but piracy, plain and simple", wrote Charles Francis Adams, the American Minister to the Court of St. James. "Its theft from the common fund of our Great Republic is justified on no reason or moral obligation. It is the bald assertion that England gets California if the confederate states get their independence".


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-05-08 01:58:05 ~ Scrooge would have made a wonderful negotiator. He was honest as the day is long, but sharp as a tack and nobody's fool. If he were sent to negotiate with Jeff. Davis and Co,, the Southerners had best send in their A-team...Judah P. Benjamin! I'd love to sit in on that one---it'd be a clash of titans!

Facebook Comment Comment from Gregory Mitchell on Facebook: While Ebeneezer Scrooge was a fictional character. his creator, Charles Dickens, was a war correspondent for a London newspaper. In 1862 he informed his British readership "At present, the American conflict is solely a fiscal one". He had quite a grasp on the situation.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-05-08 02:30:35 ~ Ahem. I must be missing something here. How can the CSA promise California to Britain when California was not at any point a Confederate possession? Or, to put it another way, how could it deliver on such a promise?

Readers Comment Michael N. Ryan commented on 2010-05-08 15:13:45 ~ Scrooge is a charcter of fiction and thus can not be. From what I have been reading of Dickens it is doughtful he would, if he were a living man, have anything to do with the ownership of other human beings and its abuses. At the same time t houigh Britain's elite sided with the south they dared not touch since that would have them coming in to support the evils of slavery that their government had been the first to outlaw. (They then reinvented it as Coolie labor in the form of indentured servants from either India as well as from China), Needless to say this line of action would lead to war with the United States and the loss of Canada for Britain. In short the British Empire gets the ultimate Bah Humbug from Abraham Lincoln.

Facebook Comment Comment from Andrew Beane on Facebook: wow now that's an intriguing possibility!

Facebook Comment Comment from Enrico Emilitri on Facebook: All this shoud had been very trouble for USA.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Napoleon made a command change before the Battle of Bautzen muses Scott Palter? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1813, on this day as Napoleon reflected on how yesterday's battle at Lutzen had been an indecisive tactical victory when he needed another Austerlitz to end this war before Austria entered it, he kept coming back to Ney's inept handling of his corps. He had allowed himself to be surprised by the allied attack. Ney had been one of the few heroes of the retreat from Moscow. Napoleon had given him a large corps to command as a reward. It now seemed clear that Ney was still too shattered from the previous winter's fighting to be trusted with such a command. Ney was still popular with the army so he was bumped to command of a division de marche of Young Guards which while a nominal demotion would not have been seen as such by the army.

Napoleon's Command Change by Scott PalterThis is turn forced Napoleon to confront his complex feelings towards Nicholas Davout, probably his best marshal, but under a cloud since the later stages of the retreat from Moscow. Napoleon had dumped Davout on a secondary command at Hamburg. Now needs must and he summoned him back to the main army. Davout was at best a difficult personality but his actions at Austerlitz, Auerstadt and Wagram had repeatedly worked to Napoleon's advantage.

His command change paid off at Bautzen on the 20th. Had Ney been in command of the flanking column he might well have been distracted by the initial clashes and lost focus on the main mission, which was to surround and capture the Allied army before it could retreat behind its superior cavalry. Instead Davout ruthlessly left a corps to mask and fight the Russo-Prussian flank guards while leading the rest of his force to victory. He punched clear around the Allied armies to complete the encirclement at Hochkirch Meanwhile Ney's climatic assault under cover of the Grand Battery shattered the Allied front. A substantial portion of the Allied cavalry got away. The two monarchs, their courts, the infantry, the artillery, the baggage train and all their supplies were captured.

This effectively ended this stage of the war. Alexander I ransomed himself at the cost of abandoning all the Russian territorial gains of 1812-13 including the Grand Duchy of Warsaw. He also returned his French and allied prisoners. His higher nobility showed their distaste for both Alexander's crusade into Central Europe and its expensive failure by deposing and assassinating him during the Christmas festivities in St. Petersburg. His brother Nicholas assumed the throne and was quite content to remove Russia from European affairs as long as the French did not further trouble his realm.

The Prussian monarch died in captivity and his realm was split between the Grand Duchy of Warsaw and the Kingdom of Westphalia. The city of Berlin was made a principality with Ney as nominal monarch. A similar principality was created at Danzig for Davout.

Left with no continental allies the British chose to end an endless war. They used Wellington's victory at Vittoria to end the war on a note of triumph before a massive new round of French reinforcements could turn the tide back. Napoleon was content to wash his hands of his Spanish ulcer. Spain was partitioned with the French keeping an expanded Catalonia and Aragon. Europe's peace was frigid but it was peace.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, we pay tribute to the tragic death of Jack Kemp by serialising his alt-history accomplishments as President in Eric Lipps "No Chappaquiddick" thread.

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In 2009, on this day former U.S. President and football star Jack Kemp died at the age of 73, after suffering from cancer, his spokeswoman announced.

Legacy of a Bleeding Heart Convervative by Eric LippsHe was a tax-cutting Republican who described himself as a "bleeding-heart conservative".

He represented western New York for nine terms in Congress, then ran for President in 1988, defeating Democrat Richard Gephardt to succeed President Gary Hart, after Hart's bid to win his party?s nomination for a second term collapsed amid the Donna Rice scandal.

In office, his greatest success was Operation Desert Wind, the Kuwait intervention following Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's attempted military conquest of that country. Immediately after Desert Wind, his popularity stood at 91 percent in the Harris and Gallup polls.

Unfortunately, his domestic policies would bring those numbers crashing to earth. A long-time advocate of the gold standard, President Kemp would use his post-Desert Wind clout to push through Congress a measure legalizing private ownership of gold and authorizing limited gold coinage. However, the Sinclair scandal, in which wealthy Connecticut investor James Sinclair exploited fears of war in the wake of the overthrow of Soviet premier Mikhail Gorbachev by military hard-0liners to run the price of gold to unprecedented heights after first purchasing huge amounts of the metal with the aid of an international syndicate, would tarnish Kemp badly. Sinclair had been a prominent Kemp backer in 1988, and critics would suggest (though never prove) that the President had made a deal with the goldbug in exchange for his support. It would not help that another of the President's favorite ideas, the "urban enterprise zones" he had induced Congress to authorize as an alternative to welfare, proved far less effective than Kemp had promised. By 1992, he would be struggling to hold onto his office.

It was a struggle he would lose. That November, Georgia senator Sam Nunn would defeat President Kemp at the polls.

In 1994, the ex-President would run for the U.S. Senate, defeating three-term incumbent Daniel Patrick Moynihan in one of the closest senatorial races in U.S. history. He was re-elected in 2000 and again in 2006.

His spokeswoman Bona Park said he died at his home in Washington.

Political colleagues of both parties paid tribute to him, with fellow ex-President Edward M. Kennedy, himself diagnosed with terminal cancer, calling him "one of the nation's most distinguished public servants".

Former President John McCain said: "Jack will be remembered for his significant contributions to the Reagan revolution and his steadfast dedication to conservative principles during his long and distinguished career in public service".

His greatest legacy may stem from his years as a congressman from Buffalo, especially 1978, when his argument for sharp tax cuts to promote economic growth became Republican party policy, which has endured to this day.


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In 1984, Alaska National Guard units and US Marine Corps regular troops started eliminating the last remaining Soviet beachhead on the Alaskan coastline.

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In 2009, on this day Cuban Head of State Raul Castro was quoted on television as saying "Our Northern neighbor the United States lost a true leader today. I hope the President now will be willing to continue the work of Mr. Obama".

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In 2008, the Federal German Defense Ministry sent hazmat teams to Cairo to dispose of the cache of chemical weapons found during the exploration of Cleopatra's Tomb two days earlier. At a press conference in Berlin, German chancellor Angela Merkel stated that a full report would be sent to NATO when the hazmat crews had finished their mission.

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In 2005, Chelsea Perkins and Debra Morris visit the Druid's Grove shop again, where Patience Redding has been waiting to see Miss Perkins again. Although Redding has had no actual training as a witch, she has learned much from the patrons of her shop, and she has found a spell that she thinks will bind Chelsea. She casts it, but is disappointed when Miss Perkins leaves her shop, apparently unbound.

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In 1999, a new South African constitution granted all citizens the right to vote, regardless of race, color or creed. The overthrow of Terreblanche's National Front party had made this reform possible at last. Nelson Mandela, long thought dead in a South African prison camp, became South Africa's first president elected by a majority of the population.

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In 1951, Congress holds hearings on the firing of General Joseph Douglas of the Pacific Command by Comrade President William Foster. Foster and Douglas had disagreed on the advance of Soviet American power in South America, and the President removed the General. The hearings concluded that Comrade President Foster's power as Commander-in-Chief of the military gave him the full authority to dismiss officers. This enraged Comrade Douglas, who mounted an unsuccessful presidential campaign against Comrade Foster the next year.

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In 1915, with Dr. Argus McCloud producing his neural neutralizers at a feverish pace, Admiral Esteban Rodriquez opens up talks with the Kainku again. They are more than willing to make reparations to the Q'Bar who have been injured by their presence, and the admiral says that he will pass that along. He decides to withdraw from the system and go back to the Congress of Nations with news of McCloud's discovery.

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In 1999, as bombs begin falling on his capitol in Bern, Emperor Pierre of the Central European Empire begins to show the slightest traces of doubt that his master plan is working. The other Illuminati elite, trapped in Switzerland because of the war being brought to them by King Arthur's forces, begin plotting to overthrow Pierre and make a deal with Arthur.

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In 1891, the prosecution in General Anthony Franklin's court-martial rests its case after presenting the rather damning evidence present in the reports from the battlefield and the days leading up to it. Franklin's own diary entries about, 'Getting that pompous jackanape, Simpson, and making all these rebels pay,' becomes fodder for the prosecutor. In defense, Captain David Danforth reads sections of Franklin's diary recounting his days as a young man during the Civil War, and his zeal in seeking to preserve the United States from, in his words, 'traitors who would destroy everything good that we stand for.' Danforth rests his case, and the judges dismiss all present while they deliberate over night.

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In 1952, Richard Byrd and Floyd Bennett landed at the North Pole. They found a small castle and several hundred short men working on what appeared to be children's toys, in addition to a stable filled with reindeer with prodigious leaping abilities. A jolly old man seemed to be in charge of the little village, and he sent them on their way with several bags full of cookies and candy canes.

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In 1898, Golda Meir was born in Kiev in the Russian Empire. One of the founders of the State of Israel, Meir served as the Minister of Labour, Foreign Minister, and then as the fourth Prime Minister of Israel from March 17, 1969 to June 3, 1974. As the BBC put it, Golda Meir was the 'Iron Lady' of Israeli politics years before the epithet was coined for Margaret Thatcher. David Ben-Gurion, the nation's first Prime Minister, once described her as 'the only man in the Cabinet.' She was Israel's first (and, to date, only) female Prime Minister, and was the third female Prime Minister in the world. Her final years of life were beset by controversy. In 1973 following the heavy defeats of the first two days of the Yom Kippur War, Minister of Defence Moshe Dayan announced 'the downfall of the 'Third Temple' at a news conference. Controversially, Meir authorised code-name Gideon, the use of nuclear weapons against the invading Arab states.

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In 1978, the inaugural Sun Day highlights the possibilities of solar power to solve the world's energy problems. After this event, solar power gains popularity rapidly, and now provides 80% of the world's fuel. Our lunar colony uses it exclusively, since solar power is so much more reliable from there.

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In 859, the Sultan of Turqui, Mohammed II, died in his capitol at Istanbul. Mohammed had been one of a coalition of sultans urging Islam to embrace the Europeans rather than leave them as vassal states. Although his views didn't prevail for hundreds of years, he is remembered fondly by the northerners who wanted to integrate with Islam without losing their unique culture.

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In 1469, the founder of the Conspirator's faction of the Speaker's Line, Niccolo Machiavelli, was born in Florence, Italy. He used his wiles to advance the causes of both his prince and his cousins throughout Europe, and starts a movement that changes the world for both good and ill.

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May 2



Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Mary, Queen of Scots had escaped to Paris? muses Eric Oppen. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1568, on this day Mary, Queen of Scots escaped from Loch Leven Castle, a remote fortress located in the middle of a body of fresh water in Perth and Kinross.

Happy Endings Part 22:
The Escape from Loch Leven Castle
Having the wit to do as her ancestress Eleanor of Aquitaine did [1] she dyed her hair and wearing a false beard and moustache travelled across England "in drag". Disguised as a French nobleman she made it to France.

And so in mid-May, she walked into the Royal Palace in France, big as life and having crossed England in disguise.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality she was taken into protective custody at Carlisle Castle by local officials. [1] an idea from Fraser's biography.


Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2013-05-02 05:48:33 ~ Um, congrats?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-05-02 06:43:26 ~ Catherine de Medici might not have been best-pleased.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2013-05-02 11:23:24 ~ I doubt her escape would prevent her from being deposed anyway, however she is still fairly young (mid-20s) at this point and could be put forth (along with any kids she has) by the French as the Rightful Scots Monarch. Perhaps Marianism takes on a new meaning?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2013-05-02 11:40:12 ~ The potential for intrigue is tremendous. The French might have backed her in an attempt to regain the throne, in the hopes of making her a vassal of Paris.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2013-05-02 11:45:23 ~ Eric: That's what I said ^_^

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2013-05-02 14:56:03 ~ Wish she'd got away and kept her throne.Off with Knox and Co's heads!

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-05-02 18:51:08 ~ She'd already _been_ deposed in Scotland, but the French could have refused to recognize that deposition, which would have been a fertile source of trouble in Scotland (not that it needed it!) And I'd love to see Queen Elizabeth when she found out just _how_ her sweet cousin had managed to get to France! Heads would roll!

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-05-02 21:38:21 ~ So now her son James is raised in France...before becoming King of England and Scotland when Queen Elizabeth dies. Talk about a triple alliance! Just as long as he can avoid being raised as a Catholic, naturally.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-05-02 22:14:25 ~ French dominance in Scotland would cause a lot of problems once Calvinism surged. Religious Wars spreads there too?

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2013-05-02 23:34:07 ~ Jackie: If I am recalling the timeline correctly James is in the custody of the nobility by the time Mary makes a run for it. If he does come along there is no way his mother and the Valois permit him to be raised outside the Holy Mother Church(tm), in which case Bess chooses another Heir

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-05-02 23:48:51 ~ But if Bess choses another heir, there is no Stuart dynasty, which would lead to tremendous changes.

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2013-05-03 00:06:46 ~ Jackie: Yup. Not least of which is England taking Scotland by force if they manage or bother with it at all. Could Scots survive as a separate literary language or does it get supplanted by French if in the unlikely event of the Francophile/Catholic Stuarts do not get tossed out on their ears.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-05-03 00:31:44 ~ Heck, England DID take Scotland by force, to the point of genocide, after Bonnie Prince Charlie's revolt.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Stonewall Jackson survives gun shot? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the April 2013 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1863, on this day the incomparable Confederate General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson was wounded by friendly fire while returning to camp after reconnoitering during the Battle of Chancellorsville. Fortunately for the Cause, he recovered from a minor flesh wound and was able to return to service just eight days later. An installment of the Federal's Lost Cause thread.

Federal Lost Cause Part 1: General Jackson injured at ChancellorsvilleWhen Jackson said that he feared that he would lose his left arm, Commander-in-Chief Robert E. Lee replied that he had feared he would lose his right one. Because ever since had been a Brigade Commander at Bull Run, Lee's forces had been energized by Jackson's inspired leadership. Now a Corps Commander, Jackson was no longer expected to put himself in the front line, and the incident at Chancellorsville was a reminder of his intrinsic value to the Confederacy.

And his dogged independence of rigorous thought stood him outside the traditional chain of command. Alongside Longstreet, he argued against a battle at Gettysburg, instead advocating an assault on Baltimore. Yet the main significance of his survival was his command of forces at the Battle of North Anna. He had the discipline to follow Lee's plan when the Commander-in-Chief was laid low with an intestinal infection. The result was an eve of election field victory that swung the electorate firmly into the Peace Camp. Months later, General McClellan edged Lincoln at the Polls, and the Civil War was at an end. "War is hell" said Jackson philosophically, when he heard the news of the armistice.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2013-05-02 14:03:27 ~ How can we be sure an attempt to take Baltimore wouldn't have tanked just as badly as the OTL Confederate march on Gettysburg?

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-02 22:06:06 ~ We cannot. And the Army of Northern Virginia destroying the Army of the Potomac at North Anna does not fly. Fixed - thanks, Ed The numbers were too much against the South. Nonetheless a field victory would have had major political importance.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-05-02 22:09:06 ~ No, it would probably have succeeded, as Lee could avoid the Union army. THE ASSAULT AT GETTYSBURG OF AN UNBELIEVABLY STRONG POSITION WAS A DISASTER, WHICH LONGSTREET ARGUED AGAINST.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-02 22:18:01 ~ Which day at Gettysburg? First day was a poorly handled meeting engagement. Second day Longstreet almost won the war. dd Jackson and the AoP is swept from the field in rout. Third day was suicide.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-05-02 22:20:39 ~ Stonewall's men would take the strong position first. ;)

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2013-05-02 22:25:23 ~ There is a theory that he would not have been shot at all if he had not insisted on shooting so many deserters...because some of them had friends...and one of them might have instituted the famed Viet Nam War tradition called "fragging."

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-02 22:43:11 ~ Same thing happened to Longstreet the following year in the Wilderness. Nasty terrain. Jumpy troops.

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2013-05-03 00:34:10 ~ In answer to Scott Palter: Probably the first day, as Jackson would have pressed forward where Ewell held back. That in and of itself might have had huge implications, as the 1st day of Gettysburg could have turned into a major Union rout.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-05-03 01:46:33 ~ McClellan wouldn't have made peace. Yes, I know about the "peace platform," but he repudiated it. And as POTUS with no fear of being fired for making mistakes, he might have suddenly reached down, found a pair, and sent the Union armies deep on the offensive.

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2013-05-03 01:54:10 ~ Not to mention, considering the way Jackson would have preferred to fight the war, with that good old Southern fire branded evangelism, it could have made things worse for the CSA by royally pissing off the Union

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-03 07:59:51 ~ If Jackson carries Cemetary Hill/Culp' Hill evening of July 1, Meade pulls the remains of First and Eleventh Corps back, concentrating on Pipe Creek. Gettysburg is remembered as a preliminary before the big battle to come. The key day is the 2nd because if Longstreet's assault carries it block the Emmitsburg and Baltimore Pikes so the Army of the Potomac retires northeast towards the Susquehanna and Philadelphia. Which leaves DC and Baltimore uncovered.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-05-03 09:45:14 ~ Guys, we are into British Intervention and a Confederate victory through a negotiated peace - I just remembered. British Intervention depended on a Confederate victory and they were waiting for this. Which they are waiting for to intervene and is likely to occur if Stonewall Jackson lives. There will however be uproar in Britain from the supporters of Abraham Lincoln.

Readers Comment Kirk Edwards commented on 2013-05-03 14:18:51 ~ This is among the best .It embodies the possibilities of atl change and consequences of such.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-05-03 14:37:52 ~ Yes,, you are talking a CS victory and a divided America through foreign intervention and a negotiated peace. The British were totally serious about intervention, but were waiting for a Confederate victory.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2013-05-03 14:37:58 ~ Yes,, you are talking a CS victory and a divided America through foreign intervention and a negotiated peace. The British were totally serious about intervention, but were waiting for a Confederate victory.

Readers Comment Mark Taylor commented on 2013-05-04 10:50:30 ~ McClellan would have no choice but to make peace if elected on a peace platform with warweariness having swept the North.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the West beat the Soviets to Berlin? muses Eric Lipps. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1945, the U.S. government announced the fall of Berlin.

Western Allies win the race to BerlinWith the Second World War clearly nearing its end, tensions between the Western powers and their wartime ally the Soviet Union were mounting steadily. The Soviets had already overrun Eastern Europe in their march toward Germany, and were showing increasing signs of wanting to turn the nations they had occupied into Communist vassal states. In Washington, the brand-new administration of President Harry S. Truman, who had succeeded Franklin D. Roosevelt upon the latter's death from a cerebral hemorrhage on April 12, feared that the Soviets would take Germany as well, placing them in a commanding position in Europe and endangering France and Britain. President Truman hoped that the atomic bomb would provide the U.S. with countervailing leverage, but the first test of the new weapon was still two months away and there was no guarantee it would be successful.

Therefore, Truman issued orders that General Dwight D. Eisenhower's First Army press toward Berlin, despite the concerns expressed by General Omar Bradley that attempting to take the German capital, located in a region already assigned to the Soviet occupation zone at the Yalta conference, could cost up to 100,000 lives. In his memoirs, Truman would write, "Gen. Bradley's warning was outweighed in my judgment by the risk that a Soviet capture of Berlin would occur and that in the long run this would lead to even more deaths in a Moscow-controlled German state carved out of prewar Germany". This forced Eisenhower to abandon his modified plan of March 28, which had called for his forces to advance not toward Berlin directly but toward Leipzig, where a juncture with Soviet forces would have split the remaining German forces in two.

The First Army therefore advanced as part of the 21st Army Group under the command of Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery, in what would come to be known as Operation Eclipse. Allied troops entered Berlin on April 22 and, after a full week of fierce house-to-house fighting, finally trapped the remnants of the capital's SS and Wehrmacht defenders, forcing their surrender. On April 30, Allied troops entered the Führerbunker, the air-raid shelter serving as Adolf Hitler's headquarters and final refuge since mid-January. There they found the bodies of the Nazi dictator and his infamous mistress (and, since their wedding in a civil ceremony April 29, wife) Eva Braun, who had taken poison rather than accept capture, along with a handful of remaining military personnel and the corpses of Josef Goebbels' six children, left behind by the Propaganda Minister and his wife when they fled the bunker on May 1. The bodies of Herr and Frau Goebbels had been found by the entrance to the bunker, showing evidence that both had taken cyanide and, in addition, been shot, perhaps by the SS as a coup de grace.

The Western capture of Berlin would leave the Soviets with only a rump occupation zone possessing little strategic importance. While most Westerners applauded, the Kremlin had a somewhat different take: Stalin saw a Western-dominated Germany as a dagger pointed at the heart of Russia. The paranoid and cynical Soviet leadership had no trouble imagining that the Western Allies would quickly rebuild Germany and rearm it as an ally against Moscow. As a result, the Soviets would tighten their grip on the countries the Red Army already occupied, especially those, such as Poland and Austria, which shared a border with Germany. Austria in particular, birthplace of Hitler, would be ruled with a heavy hand; the Soviet garrison in Vienna would not be withdrawn until 1985, while in Poland, Soviet troops would ruthlessly crush a movement of rebellious workers led by playwright Lech Walesa in 1979. Walesa would disappear into the gulag, never to be seen again.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in our history, of course, the Soviets reached Berlin first due to Eisenhower's execution of his March 28, 1945 plan calling for an advance toward Leipzig instead. The soviets took Berlin and established the German Democratic Republic (East Germany). The Red Army withdrew from Austria in 1955. Lech Walesa's Solidarity movement was instrumental in undermining Soviet control of Poland,


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2013-05-09 02:46:34 ~ Walesa never heard from again? Somehow I doubt that.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-09 06:31:49 ~ Wrong US Army and zero chance Monty is given command. Near zero chance we beat the Russians to Berlin.

Google+ Comments Comment from 86th Illinois Infantry on Google+ Does this mean Patton will be reinforcing the SS Viking Division in the rubble of Berlin?

Readers Comment John Braungart commented on 2013-05-09 12:04:11 ~ Walesa might never be heard from again, but like the Rev. Jerzy Popiełuszko, the priest who was murdered by three agents of the Polish communist internal intelligence agency, the Służba Bezpieczeństwa, (English: Security Service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs), he'd never be forgotten. And by the way, Walesa was an electrician by trade, not a playwright.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2013-05-09 17:33:19 ~ Difficult to make happen with the US government as infiltrated by the Reds as it was. There'd be a lot of high-level resistance against the idea of "stabbing Uncle Joe in the back."

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2013-05-09 22:32:23 ~ I envisioned Eisenhower rather than Patton playing the leading role based on Wikipedia's "Race to Berlin" article, from which I borrowed extensively. It would be easy enough to substitute Patton. As for Montgomery being in command, that wouldn't necessarily mean he'd be in charge. Re Walesa: Oops. I think I mixed him up with Vaclav Havel. I may submit a revised version of this post presently.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-09 23:12:37 ~ Patton is a worse answer than Hodge's/First Army. Simpson's Ninth was the one with the bridgeheads at Magdeberg. Simpson had been under Monty earlier in the year although IMO the politics would have left him with Bradley.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2013-05-10 14:31:55 ~ Good for Germany, bad for Europe. Ouch.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-10 15:13:57 ~ You folks are presuming the Western allies refus e to honor the prior Quebec agreement and do not give the SU its agreed zone. Why?

Readers Comment Steven Fisher commented on 2013-05-10 18:08:34 ~ Stalin would have thrown a fit if he didn't get what he wanted

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2013-05-10 23:01:03 ~ And Truman would have cared because . . . ? On July 16, 1945, Truman got a gift he'd been praying for not just to force Japan's surrender but to give Stalin a swift kick if he got out of line: the successful Trinity A-bomb test. In the negotiations then underway, Truman's change in demeanor was so marked that all by itself it tipped off the Kremlin that the bomb project, about which Moscow knew through its spies, had succeeded.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2013-05-11 03:54:38 ~ You folks are equating the Truman of 1948 with the green as grass new President of 1945. Harry wanted two things: 1. Stalin to invade Manchuria/help against Japan 2. No European troubles that would need a big US Army left in occupation - US public wanted demobilization and peacetime goods production



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Apple had purchased their next generation operating system from Be instead of NeXTSTEP? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the August 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2008, the animated movie Iron Man CG was released on the twelfth anniversary of Steve Jobs' merger of NeXTSTEP and Pixar.

Iron Man CGHaving abandoned the Copland Project, the rapid development of the next generation new operating system, the Mac OS X required the in-sourcing of new technology, and the two stand-out candidates appeared to be BeOS or NeXTSTEP. Inevitably, a bidding war developed between the two rival companies which were both run by former Apple executives Jean-Louis Gassée and Steve Jobs. Arguing that "A man in the desert doesn't bargain on the price of water", Gassée reluctantly sold Be Inc. for $200 million (he wanted $275 million) after discovering that his buyer Apple Computer was on the verge of striking an alternative deal with NeXTSTEP. But as the former head of advanced product development and worldwide marketing, his second stint at Apple reinforced his reputation as an expert in spending fortunes on interesting but unmarketable ideas.

Denied his own second career stint, Jobs decided to combine the resources of his two visionary companies around the single focus of entertainment. And the signature piece "What Are You Building, Stark?" was surely nothing but a satire of Job's career prior to his dismissal from Apple.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Apple acquired NeXT for $425 million. In authoring this article, re-purposed content from Below Holllywood and Mac Talk What web sites. The latter conceives this non-existent CG movie.


Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-07-23 00:45:41 ~ Interesting. lots of "almosts" in that business, but I think that Jobs would have stayed out of the content -- all he wanted was "insanely great."

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2012-07-23 03:19:31 ~ Jobs liked to dabble in things that interested him, and I think he would have been interested in an Iron Man movie...

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-07-24 11:40:23 ~ An animated "Iron Man"? Say it ain't so, Joe . . . and fortunately, it wasn't.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-07-24 16:24:44 ~ Would it cause an explosion of other animated superhero films? Mark Hamil could be back on the job for Joker forever.

Readers Comment Andrew Beane commented on 2012-07-24 16:58:52 ~ Would make an awesome profile pic lol

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-07-24 20:57:43 ~ With modern animation, superhero films would be dead easy to do, and you woudn't need to deal with stroppy actors.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Taft Party had never set sail from San Francisco? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1905, confronted by a popular outcry over the excessive expenses required to support an eighty strong Taft Party on the largest diplomatic delegation to Asia in U.S. History, President Theodore Roosevelt (pictured) announced that the "imperial cruise" had been cancelled due to the timing of the tragic death of Secretary of State John Hay.

Imperial CruiseTR who was currently serving as his own Secretary of State had convinced the easily browbeaten Secretary of War William Howard Taft to lead the mission, accompanied by his twenty-one year old daughter Alice, seven senators and twenty-three congressmen on an ocean liner from San Francisco to Hawaii, Japan, the Philippines, China and Korea. But the trouble had begun when the San Francisco Examiner published a hostile article entitled "Why Taft Pleases Steam and Rail Folk" pointing out that it was the "one of the most lucrative special parties ever hauled across the continent by the overlands roads. The railroad fares totaled $14,440 which includes something like $2,100 for dining car service [plus the] very snug sum of twenty-eight thousand dollars for almost three months on the [Pacific Liner] passenger ship Manchuria, not including tips estimated to total $1800 dollars".

A timeline in which we sent General Motors to promote US interests in Asia rather than General MacArthurOf course the imperialistic ambitions of TR were transparently clear and not at all disguised by the inclusive of his popular daughter, in fact he had already declared that "I wish to see the United States the dominant power on the shores of the Pacific Ocean. Our future history will be more determined by our position on the Pacific facing China than by our position on the Atlantic facing Europe".

Nevertheless, upon the appointment of the new Secretary of State Elihu Root the idea was briefly re-considered, but Root convinced TR that negotiating secret agreements with foreign governments was not only unconstitutional, but fundamentally un-American. In the event, the US Government did not give Japan a "green light" to occupy the Korean Peninsula. While the U.S.has avoided military entanglement in South-east Asia, the past hundred years of foreign relations have been marred by ongoing Trade Disputes and a number of prominent neo-conservatives have even been so bold as to suggest that it was a strategic misstep for the "imperial cruise" to have been cancelled. The economic warfare is perhaps most memorably framed by the iconic photograph of four automobile workers raising the corporate flag at the General Motors assembly plant on Iwo Jima.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality William Howard Taft negotiated a number of secret agreements with foreign governments that set the scene for one hundred years of conflict in South-east Asia. The father of the author of the book was one of the three men who lifted the flag at Iwo Jima and has sought to explain that there is "no smoke without fire".


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-01-11 04:50:09 ~ This might have had a lot of knock-on effects on diplomacy.

Readers Comment John Braungart commented on 2011-01-11 10:55:10 ~ I can think of four guys that I personally knew who might have rather seen this timeline than meeting their deaths in the mud of Vietnam. Thanks for the tale.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2011-01-11 12:42:39 ~ If only our American diplomats felt negotiating in secret was un-American... >sigh<

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-01-11 15:23:13 ~ Impeccable AH! Curious to see what became of the Empire of Japan in this TL. Obviously not gaining early military advantages, but they'd still be after securing foreign natural resources (hence the economic warfare). 1980s style Japanese businessmen a few decades earlier?

Readers Comment Matthew Dattilo commented on 2011-01-12 01:31:28 ~ I believe there are two things to consider: first, DID the Taft Party really have the effect claimed by Bradley in his 2009 book? I don't know one way or the other. However, it is important to remember that negotiating in secret was an accepted way of doing business in both Europe and Asia in the late 19th and early 20th centuries; we were merely following suit, which was probably a mistake. I believe we could have kept Japan in our (meaning European and American) camp for a while and possibly for all of the 20th century had we dealt openly with all our potential allies in Asia. However, I don't think you can dismiss the militarists in Japan. Had they come to power, our relationship may have changed regardless of what we did. Dictators and oligarchs always need an enemy on which to focus public attention and I think the Japanese militarists would have soured any relationship with the West in an attempt to remain in power.

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2011-01-12 03:20:18 ~ Lets simplify this question to the most basic binary level: realistically, could the US have gained access to south-east asian trade and been an effective Trading Partner without projecting naval power in the Pacific Ocean?

Facebook Comment Comment from Tom Loy on Facebook: I have no comment about this question. I do have a comment about the 1912 election. Back in 1992, did you notice the eerie similarity between the elections of 1912 and 1992?



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Byrnes and Trumans relationship worked out rather differently in a confederate government of the southern states? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1882, on this day the fifteenth Confederate President James Francis Byrnes was born in Charleston, South Carolina.

James F. Byrnes
15th Confederate President
March 4, 1939 - 1945
Byrnes' mother was an Irish-American dressmaker; his father died shortly after Byrnes was born. At age fourteen he left St. Patrick's Catholic School to work in a law office, and became a court stenographer. In 1906 he married Maude Perkins Busch of Aiken, South Carolina, and became an Episcopalian. Though they had no children, he was the godparent of James Christopher Connor. Byrnes never attended high school, college or law school, but apprenticed to a lawyer - a not uncommon practice then - and was admitted to the bar in 1903.

A new article from the "Two Americas" thread on Althistory WikiaHe served as president during most of World War Two. The supreme court, lead by former president Hugo Black, ruled against special laws that had been passed Congress to allow him to remain in office until the end of the war (Black served as the twelfth president of the CSA before going on to become Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the CSA). Before being elected president, he served as a member of the House of Representatives from the state of South Carolina (1911-1925) and as a Senator (1931-1938). After the war, he would be appointed to the very court that had ruled against him.


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Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-11-29 16:27:18 ~ Would he need "special laws" to remain in power until the end of World War II? If elected in 1939 (as seems implied here given the CSA's election calendar), his term would havew expired in 1945, about the time the war did.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-11-29 18:46:03 ~ The end may not have been so clear during election time (1944, I guess?), and they may have wanted to keep him on for stability post-war. Some commentators hold that Stalin got a leg up as the only surviving leader of WWII with FDR's death and Churchill ousted.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Johnson had allowed Cronkite to broadcast the whole long interview (including the censored section)? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1970, on this day a national television network broadcast a three-hour film of a recorded Walter Cronkite interview in which Lyndon Baines Johnson expressed misgivings about the finding that Lee Harvey Oswald had acted alone in Dallas.

The Kennedy CurseIn fact during the session recorded in Texas at LBJ Ranch during September 1969, he suggested that a conspiracy might have been involved by stating that "I can't honestly say that I've ever been completely relieved of the fact that there might have been international connections". He originally requested that section of the interview to be censored on the grounds of "national security", but later agreed to the whole session to be broadcast. He died shortly afterwards of a massive heart attack.
Watch the Conspiracy Section of the Interview

Johnson was forced to resign the Vice Presidency only a few months after the events in Dallas, although details of John F. Kennedy's own involvement in the "Bobby Baker" scandal were hidden for many years. Baker introduced the East German Quorum Club hostess Ellen Rometsch to the President, perhaps part of the international connection to which Johnson was alluding.

Also his secretary, Nancy Carole Tyler, shared an apartment with Mary Jo Kopechne, an aide to Senator George Smathers and later to Senator Bobby Kennedy. Tyler was killed in a plane crash in 1965. Kopechne was killed in 1969, in an accident on Chappaquiddick Island in a car driven by Senator Ted Kennedy.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-08-30 03:42:13 ~ I would say that they were frantically trying to keep people from believing that the KGB or East Bloc had had a hand in killing St. JFK. If the people had believed that, the missiles would have been flying...

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-08-30 12:24:25 ~ They were probably also trying to dampen speculation that Caastro did it, perhaps in retaliation fpor the Bay of Pigs. Personally, i've never bought either possibilty. After the missile crisis, the Soviets would have had to be idiots to take that kind of chance--and that goes doubled in spades for Castro.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-08-30 16:12:18 ~ Enough sensation might have made the Cold War go hot.



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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Gulf Crisis of 1990 was profoundly different?

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In 2009, on this day Richard N. Haass, a veteran advisor of three White House Administrations published "Two Bushes, Two Iraq Crises - an insider's view", claiming that both former leaders had recommended a more aggressive policy of regime change to President John S. McCain.
War of NecessityRecalling the events of 1990, Haas wrote ~ "The second National Security Council meeting on the crisis, on Friday, August 3, could not have been more different. People had had time to find their bearings and collect their thoughts. The president wanted to set a fundamentally different mood. Before entering the Cabinet Room, it was decided that [National Security Advisor] Brent [Scowcroft] would give the Churchill speech, that is, a rousing call for reversing the aggression. 'My personal judgment is that the stakes in this for the United States are such that to accommodate the Iranian regime should not be a policy option' is how he began.
"This will not stand. This will not stand, this aggression against Iraq".Asked by the waiting journalists how he [Bush] would prevent the installation of a puppet government, Bush could barely contain himself. 'Just wait. Watch and learn.' His parting words were even stronger. 'This will not stand. This will not stand, this aggression against Iraq.'
The key to understanding George Herbert Walker Bush and what made him tick was his sense of decorum. It was anything but axiomatic that the United States would decide to deploy half a million troops halfway around the world to rescue a country that few Americans could find on a map. A different president and set of advisors might have tolerated Iranian control of Iraq and limited the U.S. response to sanctions so long as the Ayatollah did not go on to attack Saudi Arabia. But Bush was genuinely offended by the Iranian invasion and then absorption of Iraq. It was simply not how civilized countries behaved toward one another. It harkened back to a cruder era of international relations when might made right".


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Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2009-05-15 06:28:21 ~ So does Saddam lead the US armed forces to triumph over the Iranians?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-05-15 16:15:27 ~ Or is the POD later, after Hussein's death, so that the Iraqi government imperiled by the Iranians is the one originally installed during the U.S. occupation? As I read this piece, the divergence could have occurrd as late as November 2008, with the election victory of John McCain.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-05-15 16:35:56 ~ My own take would be that as long as the Iranians didn't go on and attack Q8 or Saudi, the Iraqis (or their government) had made their bed and could lie in it. Of course, Persian vs. Arab nationalism would make things interesting, in the sense of the Chinese proverb, for the Iranians in controlling Iraq.



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In 1995, the New World Order controlled more than 50 percent of the United States.

Paramilitary Fight BackFirst-term Republican Congresswoman Helen Chenoweth was amongst the leadership of a national resistance movement formed by the Milita of Montana. This loyalist paramilitary organization had been amongs the first to confront an international shadow government that was usurping American sovereignty.

Until the bombing in Oklahoma City on April 19, national support for paramilitary groups, which have sprung up in a number of states in the last year, was seen as very weak. It is a measure of their influence, the paramilitary groups argue, that two months ago, after their members in Idaho said that black helicopters had landed in Idaho, Representative Chenoweth put out a press release saying that unwarranted invasion of private land by armed wildlife agents in helicopters should be immediately halted.

A handful of Republican House members who had members of paramilitary groups working as volunteers in their campaigns last fall, and have since pressed the Federal Government on the complaints of some paramilitary leaders, say they have done nothing more than routine constituent service.

Last month, rumors from self-styled paramilitary groups around the country prompted two United States Senators - Larry E. Craig of Idaho and Lauch Faircloth of North Carolina, both Republicans - to send the Justice Department a letter asking for clarification. The word on the groups' phone lines was that Federal officers were training at Fort Bliss, Tex., to invade them.

The Senators' letter asked specifically about Fort Bliss and police training - "You are doubtless aware of the concerns being raised in many quarters about what is perceived as the growing militarization of our domestic law-enforcement agencies," the letter said.

Privately the Senators' aides said the lawmakers were expressing their support for the paramilitaries and said they fully supported such groups.

Representative Steve Stockman, Republican of Texas, was more specific in his own letter to Attorney General Janet Reno, after word spread through the groups' faxes a few months ago that agents of the New World Order were preparing to invade them. Mr. Stockman said a number of reliable sources had told him that a Federal raid of the organizations was imminent.


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