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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if US President Ron Paul down-sized the military? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the July 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 2016, on this day the last American carrier strike group led by the USS Ron Paul was engaged by the Chinese Navy off the coast of Hawaii.

DownsizeThe long-running quarrel over American sovereignty had escalated in direct proportion to the down-sizing of the US military during his controversial one term Presidency. Remaining true to his word, the build down had not even been stopped by the naming of the last carrier in his honour. Soon enough an international crisis arose that sense checked his Libertarian dogma.

And now the last carrier battlegroup in the US Navy was facing doom. A resurgent China had recently announced that it did not recognize the illegal US seizure of the Hawaiian kingdom, dispatching a fleet of one hundred ships to re-install a Hawaiian monarch with a Chinese garrison as "support".


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in authoring this bluesky scenario we have collaborated with guest historian Scott Palter.


Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2012-06-13 02:43:40 ~ Not really believable, honestly. Paul has said multiple times, "Cut millions from militarism, not one penny from defense." I don't see the Navy being downsized at all under a Paul Administration, let alone being successfully challenged by the Chinese.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2012-06-13 02:55:56 ~ Paul is an old fashioned isolationist and could well see gutting the Navy and much of the AF as a way to make overseas adventures impossible.

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2012-06-13 03:02:14 ~ Paul's a non-interventionist, not an isolationist. BIG difference.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2012-06-13 03:52:34 ~ Might I respectfully ask what you base that distinction on as regards Paul circa 2012? I listened to virtually every word of those silly debates and did not hear the distinction you seem to have.

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2012-06-13 06:45:18 ~ Sure, no problem. Isolationism is defined as "the policy or doctrine of isolating one's country from the affairs of other nations by declining to enter into alliances, foreign economic commitments, foreign trade, international agreements, etc., seeking to devote the entire efforts of one's country to its own advancement and remain at peace by avoiding foreign entanglements and responsibilities." On the other hand, Non-Interventionism is defined as "a foreign policy which holds that political rulers should avoid alliances with other nations, but still retain diplomacy, and avoid all wars not related to direct self-defense. This is based on the grounds that a state should not interfere in the internal politics of another state, based upon the principles of state sovereignty and self-determination." Non-interventionism says that political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial differences (self-defense). However, most non-interventionists are supporters of free trade, travel, and support certain international agreements, and therefore differ from isolationists.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2012-06-13 11:16:52 ~ Then we are using different words but essentially saying quite similar things. Historic Isolationists included pacifists, anti-imperialists and those who just believed in continental defense. Paul seems to prefer letting the rest of the world go away unless it actively attacks us and not seeing much danger that they will.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-06-13 12:17:27 ~ Um . . . apparently in this alt, it's OK to name a carrier after a sitting president, Constitutional purists (and doesn't Ron Paul insist, loudly, that he's practically the only one in politics, with the posible exception of his son Rand Paul?) might be troubled, though; the same logic which bans putting a living president's image on coins would apply here.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-06-13 17:17:46 ~ I have to agree with bagpipelover....I just don't see these kinds of drastic cuts coming to pass.

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2012-06-13 17:22:27 ~ Extremely unlikely but how likely is a Ron Paul Presidency?

Readers Comment Sailorbarsoom commented on 2012-06-13 18:25:58 ~ Or we can resolve the dispute by playing a winner-take-all game of Futuresport.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-06-13 18:53:21 ~ As long as we have nukes, and boomers, this is highly unlikely. The Chinese have other fish to fry much closer to home. And I will say that carriers are not the Unbeatable System a lot of people think they are. See the War Nerd's column for more details.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-06-13 22:34:56 ~ Maybe not as soon as 2016, but steadily downgrading the military while other countries build could lead to a "Who's the Biggest Dog" showdown. On the other hand, so do arms-races, typically. The question is, who has the biggest economy to support it?

Readers Comment Mike commented on 2012-06-14 10:34:00 ~ I see Paul's ideas are even mis represented here too.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Marcus Sarjeant's blank shots had fatally dismounted the Queen? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1981, in what some describe as a "misguided teenage prank gone terribly wrong" and others "the greatest tragedy of our time", Queen Elizabeth II of England died in a fall from her horse due to a starting pistol being fired by Marcus Sarjeant.

Queen Elizabeth II Killed in Accident Elizabeth had been queen since the death of her father, George VI, in 1952. Her reign would see a time of major changes as Britain adapted to the new world order after World War II. The Empire had shifted into the Commonwealth of Nations over the course of the past decades, and Elizabeth acted as head of only a portion of the lands once under Britain and queen of seven countries (six in 1972 when Ceylon became republican Sri Lanka). In the Fifties, Britain worked to rebuild after the war, leading to the Swinging Sixties when England underwent a Renaissance exporting fashion and music and Britain overall returned to economic prowess.

A new story by Jeff ProvineThe Seventies brought difficulty back to Britain. While foreign policies had been successful in peaceably breaking down the Empire into independent nations in the Commonwealth after the Churchill prime ministership, Britain had distanced itself from its allies in America by the Suez Canal crisis and opting out of the Vietnam War. Britain was becoming more isolationist, and its own problems were more than enough. Stagflation, energy crises, and union strikes began to cripple the British economy. Meanwhile, the Troubles continued to terrorize citizens as the IRA used bombing attacks not only in Northern Ireland, but on the mainland of England as well. The Labour government faltered under these pressures, bringing in a Conservative government with Margaret Thatcher as the first female prime minister.

During this time, Marcus Sarjeant grew up normally in Kent and attended Astor Secondary School in Dover, an accomplished Scout member and local patrol leader before joining the Air Training Corps at twelve. Marcus was an exceptional marksman, and he began training in the Royal Marines as well as the Army but seemed unable to fit into the discipline required of the armed services. Not even the police or fire department took him, and instead Marcus worked at a zoo, arts centre, and with children at a youth centre before ultimately being unemployed. In late 1980, he joined the Anti Royalist Movement and attempted to gain a gun license, but was unable to do more than take up a gun club and hold onto his father's Webley revolver (which had no ammunition).

Looking for more in life, Marcus became inspired by the assassination of John Lennon (December 8, 1980) and the assassination attempts on Ronald Reagan (March 30, 1981) and Pope John Paul II (May 13, 1981). The fame seemed to explode around the attackers, and Marcus wanted it, noting to a friend, "I would like to be the first to take a pot shot at the Queen". He wrote about becoming the most famous teenager in the world, but he did not seem to want to hurt Queen Elizabeth, only gain the fame, so he armed himself with a starting pistol and blanks. Marcus even sent a letter to Buckingham Palace (which arrived three days too late), warning, "Your Majesty. Don't go to the Trooping the Colour ceremony because there is an assassin set up to kill you, waiting just outside the palace". He also sent letters and photos to magazines, which he hoped would expedite the growth of his fame once it began.

During the Trooping of Colour, Marcus became another face in the crowds until the Queen passed, when he fired six shots in her direction. The Queen's horse, Burmese, became startled and reared, throwing the Queen, who would die in the fall. Marcus was seized out of the shocked crowd and apprehended by police while the Sovereign's Escort closed up around the fallen Queen. Sarjeant would be found innocent of regicide as the actual death had been accidental, but he would be found guilty of "firing with intent to alarm the queen" under the Treason Act of 1842. Many called for his execution, but the seventeen-year-old would be given a life sentence, outraging many Royalists and beginning the feeling of harsh conservatism that would come to dominate the United Kingdom under the time of Thatcher. Marcus Sarjeant gained his fame only as hatred, and he would disappear into the prison system.

Any anti-British sentiment quickly invoked the same spirit of vengeance that haunted many in the mourning of the Queen. When IRA members in prison attempted a hunger strike to regain status as political prisoners, they were force-fed, and the IRA became the target of an immense military crackdown. In 1982, Britain came upon an international war when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands, and the UK counter-invaded to remove dictator Leopoldo Galtieri. Many commentators believed that Galtieri's government would have fallen apart on its own, but the government of Britain refused to take any chances.

As the occupation of Argentina dragged on and surviving Galtieri and, especially, anti-British cells carried out attacks, unemployment and taxes continued to climb in the recession of the 1980s. When the 1984 Miner's Strike began, the military force turned on Britons themselves, arresting strikers en masse and encouraging scabs. Bombings not just by the desperate IRA increased amid the oppressive government, such as the nearly successful attempt on Thatcher's life at the Grand Hotel in Brighton on October 12, 1984. Blaming the attacks on increasing leftist adversaries, the Conservative Government outlawed several smaller parties and instituted social control schemes not seen since the desperate days of the War. More controversial were the secret actions, such as the disappearance of Michael Heseltine in 1990.

The darker days lightened as the Nineties saw economic recovery and the social control lessened, though the Conservative Government continues in power with opponents disappearing seemingly before they can rise. Meanwhile, the Royal Family disintegrated amid scandal with separations and divorces as well as the death of Queen Diana while in Paris in 1997. Bright hope shines around William, Prince of Wales, who is never seen without his Conservative bodyguard.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality Queen Elizabeth's horse did not buck, and her able horsemanship brought Burmese under control. Marcus Sarjeant was sentenced to five years imprisonment but was released in 1984, when he changed his identity to live a new life.


Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-06-15 00:52:31 ~ Marcus Sarjeant would have been lucky to live a week under these condition. P.S. Shouldn't that be "take any chances"? Fixed - thanks. Ed

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2011-06-15 01:06:23 ~ Had the British army cracked down THAT savagely on the IRA, that would have been a fantastic recruiting tool for the IRA. Their ranks would have swelled with disaffected Catholics (and probably a surprisingly large number of Protestants) both in the North and in the Republic, and the death toll (in the end) would've been beyond what we can imagine. The Brits crack down TOO hard, and the Republic may very well have come out in open support and military backing of the IRA (either willingly or forcefully due to popular support for the Northern republicans). The Brits may have found themselves in over their heads, and Ireland may have been reunited as a result. Perhaps not, but I could see it happening (under this scenario).

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-06-15 01:35:12 ~ Sorry, Doc, but it looks like the patient needs a bit more surgery...the line at the end of the paragraph about the Falklands still reads "take any actions" when it should be "chances".

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-06-15 05:41:54 ~ If the UK cracked down that hard on the IRA, they'd gain a lot of support in the US.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the war with Mexico had ruined Winfield Scott's reputation? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the May 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1786, on this day the twelfth President of the United States Winfield Scott was born at Laurel Branch, the family plantation in Dinwiddie County, near Petersburg, Virginia.

Winfield Scott
12th President of the United States
March 4, 1849 - 1853
Known as "Old Fuss and Feathers" many historians rate him the ablest American commander of his time leading to his appointment as Commanding General of the United States Army in 1841. Seven years later, he ran for Union President as a Whig Candidate, but ultimately he was unable to carry his heroic military reputation into political leadership.

During Scott's first term in the White House, his counterpart the Texan President Mirabeau Lamar delivered his famous "Empire Texas" speech which gave a small marginal victory to remain a Republic. The border disputes that soon arose directly led to the Mexican-Texan War (1847-1849) from which emerged the powerful independent republics of Texas and California. The war transformed the balance of power on the West Coast effectively ending the United States aspiration for "manifest destiny" of a continental power stretching from "sea to shining sea". And worse, Britain and France became natural partners for the new states who now sought financial support for the dispensation of their crippling war debts.

Needless to say, this shatteringly disappointing outcome was a massive setback for Scott. Losing support from many Whigs because of his perceived "cottling the Texan Republic" many Anti Scott supporters turned to Daniel Webster for the Whig nomination in 1852. Shortly after he left office, the United States suffered the ignominy of losing the race to open Japan when Californian Commodore Robert F. Stockton's CRS Sonoma sailed into the port city of Edo beating US Commodore Matthew Perry in the competitive journey to open the far eastern nation to Western trade. Within less than a decade, US expansion was off the national agenda, and the focus narrowed to national preservation of territorial integrity with the southern states now looking to the West Coast powers for their support in seceding from the Union.


Entry posted by Todayinah Editor Email the AuthorVisit the Authors Web Site © Alternate Historian, 2004-.
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Todayinah Editor Editor says, thanks to Andy Jackson for sharing the idea of his independent Texas and California timeline which is published on the USA Election Atlas web site.


Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2011-04-29 03:31:43 ~ It's a little unclear that Lamar is president of Texas - might want to sharpen that a bit. Fixed - thanks. Ed

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-04-29 03:46:59 ~ So Winfield Scott was POTUS? You could make that clearer. Fixed - thanks. Ed

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2011-04-29 11:39:43 ~ California and Texas remaining independent would have all kinds of consequences, few of them good. An independent Texas, for ionstance, might well be poorer than the OTL state, since for all its celebration of rugged individualism the Lone Star State has been heavily dependent on U.S. government money since the 1930s (military contracts, NASA, assorted special deals for Texan agribusiness, etc.). It might not even have developed its oil reserves as profitably as it has, since that, too, has depended on sweetheart arrangements with Washington.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-04-29 18:18:02 ~ I'd vote for Scott. Heck, I'd even vote for a second term despite Whig tendencies toward one.


In 1984, a joint U.S.-Egyptian assault force crossed the Libyan border to aid rebels fighting to topple the dictatorship of Muammar Khadafy, the former army colonel who had overthrown Libya's monarchy nearly fifteen years earlier.

Colonel Khadafy's "Line of Death"Among the U.S.-Egyptian contingent's immediate objectives was assisting the rebel forces in retaining control of Benghazi, a major seaport and oil production center and the heart of the rebel movement; their primary longtime goal was to deny the use of Libya to the Soviets as a staging area for attacking Egypt.

A Battlefield Alaska Installment from Chris OakleyAlthough Khadafy had bragged of establishing a "line of death" on the ground similar to the one he'd declared in the Gulf of Sidra three years earlier, in reality U.S. and Egyptian troops were able to enter Libya with only minimal opposition -- in some cases Libyan regular army units actually defected en masse to the U.S.- Egyptian side.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Harold Wilson really a spy and this disclosure ultimately caused a second civil war in the Soviet Union? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1986, on this day Nicaraguan president Daniel Ortega stunned the world with two major announcements: first, that his Sandinista government had agreed to a cease-fire with the anti-Marxist counterrevolutionaries who had been fighting it for more than six years, and second, that he was resigning as president effective immediately.

Ortega ResignsHis retirement left Cuba's Fidel Castro as the sole remaining active Marxist head of state in the Western Hemisphere -- and by the late 1990s Castro would himself be confronted with a serious political crisis as millions of his fellow Cubans took to the streets to demand greater freedom of expression and an end to one-party rule in Cuba.


Ortega would spend the next quarter-century following his resignation serving as a consultant to left-wing activists around the world. One of his most famous proteges was a former Venezuelan air force officer named Hugo Chavez, who in 2002 would campaign for the presidency of Venezuela only to see his electoral bid collapse after evidence surfaced that the anti-American Chavez was receiving financial support from rogue states like Iran.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Kennedy had defeated the military-industrial complex? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1961, on this day the Taylor Commission's explosive conclusions on the Bay of Pigs Fiasco provided US President John F. Kennedy with the necessary justification to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds".

Intelligence Set-upThe announcement unleashed the fury of the agency who strongly disputed the Cuban Study Groups' report on the immediate causes of failure of the operation Zapata.

Only days later, the New York Times published the transcript of a telephone call placed by United States National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy to the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence General Cabel at 9:30 P.M. the evening before the landing of the Brigade in Cuba. Bundy had ordered cancellation of the crucial air strike from Nicaragua which was intended to destroy the Cuban Air Force on the ground. Instead, it raked the beach with gun fire, massacring the Cuban Brigade and shooting the slower B-26s that the agency had refitted for air support.

Eighteen years later, Bundy would publish a confessional article "The Brigade's My Fault" in which he would confirm that the political decision to make a last minute change to the mission plan was part of an orchestrated attempt to discredit the agency.

That imperative had become a pre-requisite to end the Cold War since Kenneday had discovered that the agency sabotaged Gary Powers's U-2 flight on the eve of Eisenhower's visit to Moscow. In the event, Khruschev had rescinded the invitation. More alarming still was the revelation that the New York Times had planned to publish full details of the mission three whole days before the launch, but had been firmly encouraged not to do so by the White House.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-12-06 02:53:01 ~ The BoP failed because JFK-the-coward wouldn't send in the air support he'd promised, at least according to the BoP vets' accounts I've read.

Facebook Comment Comment from Tom Loy on Facebook: It wouldn't have been enough because he had the international bankers against him when he tried to issue U.S. notes to compete with Federal Reserve notes. They, LBJ,J. Edgar Hoover, the Mafia, and the CIA would have still conspired to kill him at a later time. Unfortunate, but probably true. That's just my opinion. Hope I'm wrong. Agreed my suggestion is this was the first concrete step Kennedy took to beating the military industrial complex rather than it being an absolute victory as you rightly point out.

Facebook Comment Comment from Terry Enright on Facebook: you're onto something here

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-12-06 16:18:52 ~ But, without the Military-Industrial Complex, I wouldn't have as cool of a cell phone as I do.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Cipher Division had anticipated the Soviet counterattack at Kiev in 1920? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1920, the evacuation of Semyon Budionny's famous Cossack 1st Cavalry Army from the Ukrainian front on this day enabled the Commander of White Forces, Józef Pilsudski (pictuerd) to proclaim a new Confederation comprising Poland, Ukraine and the Baltic States.

Triumph at KievIn a broader sense, this incredible feat of arms prevented the Soviets from wrecking the Treaty of Versailles, a peace settlement from which the Russians were excluded. Which wasn't to say that the French were similarly excluded in the Ukraine, because Captain Charles de Gaulle led a military mission to advise the White Polish Forces on the Ukrainian Front. And yet the decisive contribution was from the Polish Cipher Division, who, in anticipating an assault on the southern front, had saved the day.

Lenin's dreams of building Marxist States in Poland and Germany had been shattered. And yet the establishment of a buffer state in eastern europe would have long term consequences for both the security of the region, and also the future of the Soviet Union itself. Maybe, just maybe, the system of security proposed by Treaty of Versailles would survive.


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Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2010-03-20 23:27:14 ~ Where was Budionny's army sent instead? How did this one change cure Polish logistical problems? How did it make Ukranian nationalists accept this?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-03-21 00:28:14 ~ The Ukranian and Baltic nationalists would never be happy about this...Ukranians and Poles detest each other, and same goes for Baltics and Poles.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-03-21 00:55:44 ~ Good question....

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-03-21 12:14:53 ~ And assuming the Ukrainians and Poles managed to patch things up, how would the Russians take it? One suspects that in its own self-interest, the Confederation would have allied with the Nazis in the 1930s against the USSR--only to be betrayed, of course, just as the Soviets were IOTL following the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if D-Day had been cancelled? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1944, on this day Great Britain was strucked by the first V-1 bomb-laden rockets; over eighteen thousand would be launched by September 8th, only half of which would be intercepted. Because ever since the cancellation of the Normandy invasion, the war had unexpectedly developed in a new and frightening direction.

Going BallisticThe pioneer of controlled, liquid-fueled rocketry, Robert H. Goddard had recently arrived in Britain. Despite being one of the foremost rocket experimenters of his day, his work had been largely derided in the United States. The US Army had incorrectly determined that it was of no military application at all.

But now an alarming capability gap had emerged through the successful delivery of the Nazi programme led by Wernher von Braun. In fact, the Nazis had benefitted from the actions of a German spy who had secretly reported Goddard's work back to von Braun. An accredited military attache to the US, Friedrich von Boetticher, sent a four-page report in 1936, and the spy Gustav Guellich sent a mixture of facts and made-up information, claiming to have witnessed a launch.

Worse still, the Soviet NKVD also had a spy in the U.S. Navy Bureau of Aeronautics. In 1935 she gave them a report Goddard had written for the Navy in 1933. It contained results of tests and flights and suggestions for military uses of his rockets. The NKVD considered this to be very valuable information. It provided few design details, but gave the Soviets the direction and progress of Goddard's work.

That his work had been stolen became crystal clear to Goddard when he first saw the remnants of the German V-2 ballistic missile. The terrifying possibility of a new scenario emerged, in which the climax of the Second World War would be fought not be conventional armies, but by an exchange of superweapons developed by the likes of Goddard and Von Braun.


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Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-02-06 01:42:26 ~ What date was the first V-1 launched? And why was D-Day cancelled?

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2010-02-06 01:45:03 ~ June 13 1944, a week after D-Day planned. Lets say that the preparations on the south coast had been detected by "zer Germans" :-)

Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-02-06 02:01:11 ~ So what made the German change their minds all of a sudden? And more to the point, how is Hitler convinced otherwise?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-02-06 06:12:29 ~ So in this TL Berlin gets A-bombed?

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-02-06 15:06:16 ~ Yeah, I've got a few questions about the PODs myself...




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Ted Kennedy had joined the McGovern ticket in 1972?

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In 1972, South Dakota Sen. George McGovern receives the Democratic Party's nomination for president of the United States. In his acceptance speech, he ends weeks of speculation by naming his Massachusetts colleague Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy as his running-mate.

It is a controverial choice. Three years earlier, Kennedy had been involved in a car accident at Chappaquiddick in Martha's Vineyard in which a young female companion, Mary Jo Kopechne, drowned when the car the senator was driving went off a bridge. Hostile rumors about the incident have plagued Kennedy ever since.

Kennedy for running mate by Eric LippsWatching from the convention floor is yet another senator, Thomas Eagleton of Missouri. An early favorite for the VP choice, Eagleton had seen his chances evaporate when it was revealed that he was the source of a quote in conservative columnist Bob Novak's April 27 column labeling McGovern, who had just won the Massachusetts primary, the candidate of "amnesty, abortion and legalization of pot".

The choice of Kennedy proves to be a strategic blunder. Popular as he is in the Northeast, in California and in parts of the upper Midwest, Kennedy is despised with visceral fury throughout the South, where it is not uncommon to hear he charge that he had deliberately "murdered" the unfortunate Ms. Kopechne because she had, so the claim goes, been carrying his illegitimate child".

That November, McGovern loses 42 out of 50 states. Tbhe day after the election, the still-bitter Sen. Eagleton tells reporters he is confident that the Democrats would have done "much better" with him on the ticket. It will be discovered in 1975 that Eagleton had been concealing a scandal of his own: he had checked himself into the hospital theree times for "physical and mental exhaaustion", had received shock therapy twice, at the time of the 1972 election was on the powerful antipsychotic drug Thorazine. Publicly, Sen. McGovern is gracious about the revelations. Privately, he complains to intimates, "This would have been better for the party than Chappaquiddick?". McGovern will admit to this comment only many years later, in an interview on Meet the Press during his final run for the presidency in 1984


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, Wikipedia ~ Kennedy had declared shortly after Chappaquiddick that he would not be a candidate in the 1972 U.S. presidential election. Nevertheless, polls in 1971 suggested he could win the nomination if he tried, and Kennedy gave some thought to running. In May of that year he decided not to, saying he needed "breathing time " to gain more experience and to take care of the children of his brothers and that in sum, "It feels wrong in my gut. " Once George McGovern was near clinching the Democratic nomination in June 1972, various anti-McGovern forces tried to get Kennedy to enter the contest at the last minute, but he declined. At the 1972 Democratic National Convention McGovern repeatedly tried to recruit Kennedy as his vice presidential running mate, but was turned down. When McGovern's choice of Thomas Eagleton had to step down soon after the convention, McGovern again tried to get Kennedy to take the nod, again without success. McGovern instead chose Kennedy's brother-in-law Sargent Shriver.


Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-06-24 03:20:39 ~ Kennedy might have helped the Democrats do better, but McGovern's own ineptitude and the divisions within the party guaranteed a Republican victory.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-06-24 14:39:23 ~ Which is, of course, what happens in this timeline (though McGovern's "ineptitude" is, I believe, exaggerated--as a senator he was respected even by many Republican colleagues who didn't agree with him politically). The scenario sketched here is what many Democratic insiders, after the fact, argued might have happened if not for the Eagleton debacle.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-06-24 17:30:37 ~ Chappaquiddick might have been a problem, though...




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Nelson Mandela was sentenced to death?

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In 1964, on this day the Chairman of the World Campaign for the Relief of South African Prisoners Mr Humphrey Berkeley, accompanied by forty-eight Members of Parliament marched down Whitehall to the the wrought iron gates of South Africa House.

Rivonia Trial Protests in LondonFinding no letter box in which to post the appeal, Mr Fenner Brockway, Labour MP for Eton and Slough, led the march to a side entrance. The door was opened, and quickly slammed in his face, and he dropped the appeal into the letter box. It called for the release of the prisoners "in the name of human rights and racial equality".

British Members of Parliament call for the release of Nelson Mandela and his companions "in the name of human rights and racial equality".Because the previous day, Judge-President of the Transvaal Mr Justice de Wet had found Nelson Mandela and seven other men found guilty of sabotage and plotting the overthrow of the South Africa Government. Mandela (46), the former leader of the banned African National Congress, Walter Sisulu (52), former secretary-general of the ANC; Dennis Goldberg (33), a white man who was formerly an executive member of the banned Congress of Democrats; Govan Mbeki, a former African teacher and journalist; Raymond Mahlaba (44), son of an African police constable; Elias Motsoaledi (39), chairman of non-European trade unions; and Andre Mlangeni (38), ANC branch secretary, were all sentenced to death.

For his own act of defiance, Berkeley, the only Conservative member of the delegation would be expelled from the party the following day by the British Prime Minister Enoch Powell.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2009-06-15 01:37:27 ~ A definite game-changer, I'd say...

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-06-15 03:07:13 ~ Sentencing someone to death and executing him are two different things. That said, I wonder what would have happened if the South Africans had shown people proof that Mandela & Co. had done some things worthy of the DP anywhere?

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2009-06-15 18:06:34 ~ Well, first they'd have had to have that proof. And I find it difficult to imagine that Mandela, in particular, had "done some thngs that were worthy of the death penalty anywhere." Of course, the Pretoria government might have concocted evidence.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the apartheid government of South Africa tried to stop Paul Simon from spreading his multiracial messages of peace and brotherhood in Southern Africa in 1987?

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In 1987, addressing the American people during an historic Presidential address on this day, Jesse Jackson presented unambigous evidence of the South African Government's complicity in the tragic death of forty-five year old singer Paul Simon.

The death of a role modelSimon's confrontation with the apartheid authorities had begun two years before. Because after listening to a cassette of the Boyoyo Boy's instrumental "Gumboots" in his car during 1985, Simon had incorporated pop, a cappella, isicathamiya, rock, and mbaqanga into his next musical project.

Recorded with South African musicians and groups, particularly Ladysmith Black Mambazo, "Graceland" became Simon's most successful album. Watch "Call Me Al"

"What if I die here, who'll be my role-model, now that my role-model is gone gone" ~ Call Me Al by Paul SimonYet Simon's multiracial musical achievements would become deeply politicised by his brave decision to take the Graceland Tour to southern africa. Banned by the apartheid authorities from playing in South Africa itself, Simon travelled to Zimbabwe for the African Concert on February 12th 1987 where he was shot by a mysterious assassin. Watch the Youtube Clip of the African Concert

In 1991, Art Garfunkel and Peter Gabriel would lead a memorial concert in Simon's honour at New York's Central Park. Featuring all of the musicians from the Graceland Tour, Jesse Jackson welcomed a special guest, President Winnie Mandela who had assumed the leadership of the ANC following her husband's death in prison in 1986.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2009-06-06 22:22:30 ~ "Round up the usual music critics?" --Sorry, couldn't resist.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-06-08 00:57:22 ~ Jesse Jackson as President? At the very least there must have been no "Hymietown" and no cozying up to Louis Farrakhan in '84, but even so--who was he running against, to make his victory possible? And after Jackson, I foresee a massive swing to the right. The Rev. President Pat Robertson, anyone? (He actually ran in '88, and beat the elder Bush in Iowa, if I recall, before fizzling. No fan, I had the perfect mock campaign slogan for him: ROBERTSON IN '88: HE'LL BRING AMERICA TO ITS KNEES.)

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2010-06-08 03:35:58 ~ On Feb. 13, 1987, while Jackson was up in arms over the assassination of Paul Simon, 40,000 Soviet tanks reached the English Channel.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-12-08 20:13:01 ~ Very different, yet so similar TL. What's the original POD, or have we got two/three? Nelson Mandela's death would indeed bring a wild card to the plays of history.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Peasants Revolt on steroids? muses Robbie Taylor. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the May 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1381, angered at being denied a meeting with King Richard II, Wat Tyler (pictured) and his army of peasants took London, burning it to the ground.

Peasants Revolt, RebootRichard was seized as he attempted to flee the city, and was killed by the peasants when he told them that he would never negotiate with rabble such as them. Wat Tyler sent Richard's head to the surviving members of the nobility and told them that a similar fate awaited them if they did not bow to the demands of the peasant army.

Since these demands included a drastic reduction in the power of the nobility, they refused and prepared to fight. Tyler's army was growing invincible, though - like Spartacus before him, he drew support from the oppressed throughout the kingdom. The nobles who could still raise an army gathered one to meet him at Nottingham and sent him challenge. With almost a thousand knights and 5000 men-at-arms, they thought they would easily wipe out the peasantry; then they saw Tyler and his forces, nearly a hundred thousand strong, surround and crush them. Every noble who had dared to resist the peasantry was put to death, along with any male heirs. Tyler and his peasant council then ruled England as a democracy in the old Greek style. In spite of French, Scottish and Spanish efforts to place nobility back into power in England, the new Peasant's Kingdom resisted any who tried to take their freedom. Recommendation: visit Robbie Taylor's Amazon Author Page.


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Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2012-05-06 02:33:55 ~ Interesting perspective on the Peasants Revolt, although its generally considered unlikely that England could have survived as a Republic.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-05-11 10:32:26 ~ This throws the War of the Roses and English history into free fall. Would in this Alternate Time Line medieval historiand write a history of a hypothetical civil war between the houses of Edward II's children that goes on for years? Under John of Gaunt as their general the quarrelling sons of edward unite to avenge their nephew and defence their priviledges. Gaunt's son will not be exiled abroad. An older brother of Gaunt becomes king. The problem with the peasants is they are not professional soldiers and the difficulty of keeping a large army supplied. The rival claimants in the W of the R did marshal surprisingly large armies. Will there be a Golden Age in England under Edward IV and the Plantagenets?

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2012-05-11 10:52:49 ~ Richard, armies of professional soldiers in history were rarely as good as their reputation - and it's hard to win against odds of 20 to 1. For those who think that a democracy would have failed in the Middle Ages, I just have to say that I think when people take charge of their own destiny, there's no stopping them. I like the alternate history idea - didn't Phillip K. Dick do something like that with Man in the High Castle?

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-05-11 11:09:49 ~ The professional soldiers of the middle ages were quite good. The nobility of the middle ages were miliarised -hence them being the ruling elite. The Plantagenets can use their possessions in France as a base to reinvade lost territory. The 100 Years War is called of as the French nobility fear the pwer of the peasants . The problemis the supply of large armies in the medieval period and as soon as the 100,000 peasants go home the professiona men at arms and knights have the advantage.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2012-05-11 11:18:03 ~ John, I think he had an alternate-alternate history inside the story that was about the allies winning the war, but it was different from our timeline. Been too long, I'll have to read it again. Richard, Agincourt proved that peasant fighting ability was plenty good enough to take down the nobles...

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-05-11 13:01:22 ~ "Like Spartacus and his army"? You do know what happened to Spartacus, don't you?

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-05-11 18:18:07 ~ The peasants might have had disaffected knights and nobles on their side; there were always the European equivalent of "ronin" around. And if they got their hands on money, they could use it to hire pros of their own.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-05-11 18:41:09 ~ The question is, how long could it last? It'd be prime territory for a new dictator arising in the next few generations with grand promises or even out of sheer charisma ala Alcibiades.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-05-11 19:04:22 ~ I agree but I am only commenting Richard II had a big family as they say, of warlike relatives who in OTL were responsible for bumpimg him off and fighting over the throne. Also as someone has just said it would likely lead to a new dictatorship would it lead to some new theocracy?


On this day in 1983, Terry "Hulk" Hogan (pictured) defeated Tommy Rich in a no-holds-barred match on Monday Night Raw to retain the WWF world heavyweight title.

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Hulk Hogan

Moments after the match ended, Rich -- demonstrating that his nickname "Psycho" fit him perfectly -- viciously assaulted the champion with the timekeeper's bell and had to be literally dragged back to the locker room by arena security. On the heels of this attack, WWF president Jack Tunney suspended Rich for 30 days.

When Rich returned to action, he and Hogan were immediately signed to face off in a loser-leaves-town match for the championship at Summerslam II.


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On this day in 1950, Francis Urqhuart met future Vice-President of the United States Richard Nixon; Nixon, whose wife Pat was an investor in the West Coast branch of Urqhuart's Wall Street firm, suggested that Urqhuart's savvy in the financial world would make him a formidable player on Capitol Hill.

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Richard Nixon

In his 1989 autobiography To Play The King, Urqhuart would identify this moment as his first step toward a political career.


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On this day in 1968, US Republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon called for the world's major nuclear powers, including the United States, to agree to a pact reducing and eventually eliminating the global nuclear weapons stockpile.

Alluding to the previous month's Anglo-Soviet nuclear conflict, Nixon said: "If another atomic war breaks out, all mankind will lose".

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In 1964, attempting to capitalize on Pete Best's success, his former bandmates, the Silver Beatles, release old recordings that had been made of him playing with them. Bestmania being rampant across the world, the recordings gave these men, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, and George Harrison, a good living for several years.

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In 1947, Japanese forces consolidated their hold on Canada, and agreed to a truce with the US. Until Emperor Hirohito's death in 1989, the border of Japanese Canada and the US was the longest militarized border in the world.

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In 1892, Sir Basil Rathbone, famed director of the British cinema, was born. Early in his career he had tried his hand at acting, but was such a miserable failure that after only one or two films spent the rest of his career behind the camera.

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In 4561, in a desparate attempt to gain access to food from farmlands around the city, troops in Hanoi burst through the Chinese siege forces in a bloody battle lasting half the day.

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In 1789, Mrs. Alexander Hamilton served a dessert treat for General George Washington, a dish called ice cream. It was not received well, and has never been a popular sweet since.

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In 1304, so-called 'Protestants' founded the city of Jesu, in France. Worshipping in secret, the Protestants grew in number in the region until they felt strong enough to attempt secession from the Holy British Empire.

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In Kaliyuga 597, Gauthama Siddhartha, a prince of India, sat beneath a tree and meditated. The riches of his people were before him, privilege and honor enough for 10 nobles. But he knew nothing of poverty. After much meditation, he decided he preferred it that way. He became a hideous tyrant, conquering the lands to the north as well as other Hindi.

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In 1149 B.C., Trojan forces landed on the shores of Greece, and began a 10-year siege of the peninsula.

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In the Dreaming, Wandjina came to the people of Pindanjaru with much wisdom. He spoke of caring for the land, of building a bridge to the stars, and of the coming of the pale men. He promised to return on that day to defend the Dreaming against their invasion.

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In 1983, following delays Hitsville 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever was broadcast on NBC as a television special. Produced by Suzanne de Passe, the program commemorated twenty-fifth year of Hitsville U.S.A.'s existence.

Ironically many of the performances featured hits from other labels.

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Michael Jackson

Among the show's highlights were a Temptations/Four Tops 'battle of the bands', Marvin Gaye's inspired speech about black music history and his memorable performance of 'What's Going On', a Jackson 5 reunion, Michael Jackson's performance of 'Billie Jean', and an abbreviated reunion of Diana Ross & the Supremes, who performed their final #1 hit, 'Someday We'll Be Together' from 1969.

Michael Jackson's dancing performance received significant applause from the audience, especially when Jackson executed his trademark moonwalk for the first time. However, Otis Redding stole the show with a powerful rendition of I've Been Loving You Too Long. A transmutation of gospel, rhythm & blues and funk, Big O compressed twenty five years of music into a classic piece of climaxing anticipation that was all waiting.


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In 1999, Queen Gwen announces that Prime Minister Sir Kay Ector is taking a brief holiday in the Mediterranean, and that she will personally handle the affairs of state while he is recouping his strength. 'As the women of Britain know, the men of our kingdom often depend upon us to be the pillars that they may lean upon when their own abilities flag. We stand ready to be the pillar for the United Kingdom, and we shall lend our strength to all those who weaken, and all may lean upon us and know that we shall hold them up.'

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In 1891, Kansan resistance crumbles before the combined onslaught of Union soldiers and state militias crossing the border to attack them. The southern region of the state, led by former Farmers Councilor Thaddeus Elridge, defects to the Union side in exchange for a promise to leave their homes intact. Elridge's betrayal opens the way for a huge combined force to target Topeka, where 'Sockless' Jerry Simpson is desperately gathering as many troops of his own as he can.

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On this day in 1944, Allied Supreme Commander in Europe Gen. Dwight Eisenhower announced the liberation of Rouen. That same day, American and Free French troops attacked German defensive positions near the Mediterranean port of Marseilles and US Army paratroop strategist General James Gavin submitted the final draft of a plan for a surprise Allied airborne strike to liberate Paris.

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On this day in 1972, John Ehrlichman, under the pseudonym 'Deep Throat', wrote a letter to Washington Post reporters Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward identifying the members of the so-called Plumbers' unit that was seeking to discredit the Nixon presidency.

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In 684, The Beast walks into an encampment of soldiers sent after him and walks up to the commander's tent. The pair of soldiers guarding it challenge him for a moment, but shrink back when he brandishes his own triple-6 tattoos at them. Inside the tent, he makes an offer to the commander - if he joins the Beast's side, he and his men will live and gain power. If he remains opposed to the prophet, he will be destroyed. The commander tells the Beast that he needs to consider this; the Beast draws his own standard from within his cloak, a banner with the triple-6 on it. 'Fly this standard above your camp, and I will know that you are mine.' Shuddering, the commander takes the standard and the Beast slips away into the night.

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In 1812, Italian Emperor Napoleon Buonaparte makes his worst military decision, and invades Russia. Although his campaign in the summer goes well, by the time he reaches Moscow it is the dead of winter, and his troops freeze in the Russian snow. He is forced to withdraw back to Rome and loses many good men along the way.

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In 1789, Mrs. Alexander Hamilton served a dessert treat for General George Washington, a dish called ice cream. It was not received well, and has never been a popular sweet since, in spite of several attempts to remarket it.

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In 1947, Japanese forces consolidated their hold on Canada, and agreed to a truce with the US. Until Emperor Hirohito's death in 1989, the border of Japanese Canada and the US was the longest militarized border in the world.

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In 597, Kaliyuga Gauthama Siddhartha, a prince of India, sat beneath a tree and meditated. The riches of his people were before him, privilege and honor enough for 10 nobles. But he knew nothing of poverty. After much meditation, he decided he preferred it that way. He became a hideous tyrant, conquering the lands to the north as well as other Hindi.

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In the 3rd year of Usermaatreakhenamun's Reign, a vision of Egypt destroyed came to him in a dream. The young pharaoh had been sickly, but this dream filled him with strength. He began to eat only fresh vegetables and meats, and soon his strength grew. By the end of his 53-year reign, Usermaatreakhenamun had conquered half of the known world, and Egypt would never be in danger of destruction again.

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In 1149B.C., Trojan forces landed on the shores of Greece, and began a 10-year siege of the peninsula.

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In 1980, Wayne Stukey asked Larry Underwood to go for a walk with him down on the beach. Underwood's catchy song 'Baby can you dig your man?' topped the US billboards. The artist himself was partied out at a week long drugfest in Southern California, home of hopheads, freak religions, the only c/w nightclubs in the world with gogo dancers and Disneyland. Wayne Stukey would try warning Underwood that the party had to end because his real friends had already bailed out. Problem was, Underwood he was a selfish SOB who wasn't worth telling twice.

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In 1940, you could safely say that history had taken an unexpected turn. Britain had emerged from World War I as the military victor. Yet this victory had disguised an accelerated national decline, throwing the British ruling class into a state of denial. General Strikes, Financial Crises, Depressions inter alia were the traumas of the post-war era. By 1936, British Prime Minister Oswald Mosley and King Edward VIII held the positions of British Heads of State and Government. The sense of national crisis was acute, and they were determined to reverse it with a new imperialism. The trouble was this. By forcing the abdication and execution of Kaiser Wilhelm II in 1918-9, the British had transformed what would otherwise have been a sympathetic Germany monarchy into a rabid Fascist power. And now Nazi troops were massing in Northern France, as plans for the D-Day Landings on the South Coast of England further advanced.

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Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Oberost had been wiped out in 1916? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1916, on this day Generals Hindenburg and Ludendorff were both killed on the Eastern Front.

The Tragedy in KovnoThe pressure of Brusilov's offensive had forced the Germans to move Oberost headquarters south-west to Kovno. But tragically the railway carriage that occupied was derailed and only Max Hoffmann survived. All three (pictured) had worked together as a close knit team ever since the Battle of Tannenberg, and in truth, that victory was Hoffman's triumph because it was effectively won before Hindenburg and Ludendorff reached the Eastern Front.

Success in the East only made failure in the West look worse. By this stage of the war it was increasingly clear to the Kaiser that Falkenhayn's strategies had failed. Although the tragedy at Kovno meant that he got a further six months in his role, he was eventually succeeded by Hoffmann who eventually became the Supreme Commander of the German Army. Hoffman's own strategies were generally considered a success, Petrograd was taken in early 1917, the Russians forced to sign a separate peace. But most importantly on the Western Front, the German army managed to hold on for long enough for the US/UK to go bankrupt.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-11-23 06:03:38 ~ Would Britain be after revenge?

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-11-23 06:26:05 ~ Good question.

Readers Comment Mike McIlvain commented on 2012-11-23 07:03:36 ~ How well could Britain have recruited other allies, and forces from the empire? That would have been a major source of intrigue, and in time, could the Bolshevik Russia been brought back in against Germany somehow? Perhaps, the time for a real James Bond to emerge igniting these needed allies?

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-11-23 09:23:58 ~ The Germans would have inevitably run out of resources if the war lasted until 1918. They had no means of bankrupting the United States. Mike -- Look up "Reilly, Ace of Spies."

Readers Comment Allen W. McDonnell commented on 2012-11-23 12:32:19 ~ Agree with Stan Brin on this one, the only way for Germany to win by 1916 was to keep the USA out of the war. A complete ending of Submarine Warfare in the Atlantic would have been less costly to the war effort than bringing the USA in.

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-11-26 01:54:18 ~ Since Ludendorf and Hindenburg both aided the rise of Hitler, in their different ways, the world might have been better off without them both.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-11-28 17:52:00 ~ I agree with Jackie. It'd be a VERY different 1930s in Germany without L&H.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Greece had joined the Central Powers? muses Jeff Provine on the This Day in Alternate History web site. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the July 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1917, on this day King Constantine of Greece approves a Declaration of War Against the United States.

King Constantine of Greece Approves Declaration of War Against the United StatesAs the Great War erupted in Europe in 1914, the nation of Greece became caught in the middle. Greece had won its independence in 1830 after nine years of war with the Ottoman Empire, which had ruled the southern Balkans for centuries. The new kingdom grew as Britain returned the Ionian Islands in 1864 and the Ottomans ceded Thessaly in 1881. Further gains were made in the Balkan Wars in the early twentieth century, winning Greek occupation for Macedonia. These wars made great gains for the Balkan League but ended up destroying trust as Serbia and Greece made a secret division of spoils, spurring Bulgaria to declare war against its former allies. Serbians continued to struggle with the Austro-Hungarians, leading to the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo and the beginning of war over almost all of Europe.

Greece itself became divided. King Constantine, backed by his German wife Queen Sofia, argued for neutrality, which would benefit the Central Powers with free ports to take in supplies for the war effort. Prime Minister Eleftherios Venizelos suggested joining the Entente, noting the necessity of Allied operations in the region against Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire. If the Greeks did not work with the Allies, he believed they would force cooperation with a blockade by the powerful navies of the British and French, devastating the peninsular kingdom (he noted, "One cannot kick against geography!"). In 1915, the Entente began plans to take the Dardanelles, and Venizelos noted the opportunity to support what he saw as the eventual victors of the war. Constantine refused, causing Venizelos to resign February 21. Elections in August quickly put Venizelos back into office upon the promise of keeping neutrality, but, by October, Venizelos stated that Bulgaria's invasion of Serbia would prompt him to join with the Allies due to their Serbian treaty. An Allied expedition to liberate Serbia arrived at Thessaloniki, causing a final division between the King and Prime Minister.

Constantine determined to use his constitutional power as monarch to dismiss the government and call for new elections. However, reflecting on the division of his peoples and Venizelos' clear popularity, he decided a different action: declaring war on the invading Allies. He arrested Venizelos and many of his supporters, placing them under guard as political prisoners until the nation was secure. The Allied army, which had been divided as the French attempted to march forward alone and were rebuffed by the Bulgarians, was caught and proceeded to retreat. The action doubled the embarrassment of the Allies as it coincided with the failure and evacuation of the Gallipoli Campaign, effectively ending Allied activity in the region. Diplomats in 1916 hurried to prompt Romania into the Entente with promises of immense territorial gains, but heavy losses to Central victories in 1917 forced them out of the war with the Treaty of Bucharest. Russia, too, had fallen due to internal revolution, and the Eastern Front became quiet. Bulgaria worked to relieve its own internal struggles from dissatisfaction among the soldiers fighting a war alongside Muslim Ottomans against fellow Orthodox Christians.

Greece, meanwhile, struggled against the Allied blockade. Cities were bombarded, but shoreline defenses and sabotage proved effective counterattacks. Well-armed resistance fighters made attempts at occupation impossible, turning to bloodbaths akin to Gallipoli. The British Navy was stretched thinly, allowing a good deal of food and materiel to be smuggled between Central nations, relieving much of the tension of the Turnip Winter of 1916-17 from Germany. America came into the war April 6, 1917, and Greece eventually declared war, following the actions of the other Central Powers. By this time, most populations had become disgusted with the war. France had faced mutinies among its soldiers with more than 20,000 soldiers court-martialed. Emperor Charles I of Austria had attempted to sue for peace through secret negotiations shortly before the fall of Russia, causing a diplomatic catastrophe among the Central Powers.

In 1918, the Allies launched aggressive advances along their remaining fronts in France and the Jordan Valley. The Ottoman Empire was clearly crumbling, though the Balkans held in the midst of blockade. In the West, however, German offenses had run out of steam, and Allied counteroffensives pushed back with such force that the end seemed near. Still, they held Eastern Europe, and the decision was made to push through another winter after the Americans had rejected suggestions of an armistice. The Germans were pushed back through Belgium in as organized of a retreat as the German High Command could muster. At sea, convoys and submarine-hunters gradually extinguished the threat of u-boat attack. As another campaign season approached with the spring, German Chancellor Prince Maximilian of Baden finally accepted American President Wilson's Fourteen Points, and the Americans led peace-talks beginning in 1920.

While French diplomats argued vindictively, Germany's delegation stood much of their ground despite losing their overseas colonies. Wilhelm abdicated in favor of his son, Wilhelm III, who had been noted as opposing the war. Austria-Hungary was broken apart along with the Ottoman Empire. The Germans led international intervention into the former Empire of Russia, breaking it asunder as well by granting independence to previous client states such as the Ukraine and stymieing attempts at domination by soviets.

For its part in the war, Greece was mildly punished with reparations that weakened its economy in the long term. Alongside the struggling Greek economy, nationalism expanded as Greeks and Turks fled one another's countries in a population exchange of more than two million. Hardening conservatism battled with socialist ideals, but the King of the Hellenes has maintained a sense of stability in the nation.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in reality King Constantine only dismissed Venizelos. The National Schism erupted as Entente-supporters set up a new government in the north alongside the Allied expedition on the Macedonian front. Constantine abdicated in 1917 after threats of bombardment, and Kaiser Wilhelm announced to his soldiers, "The collapse of the Macedonian front has occurred in the midst of the hardest struggle. In accord with our Allies I have resolved once more to offer peace to the enemy". The resulting Treaty of Versailles awarded Greece Smyrna in Turkey as reward for participation in the war, which ignited the Greco-Turkish War in 1919. Humiliated by the new republic of Turkey, Greece dethroned its king and collapsed into near-anarchy with 23 changes of government from 1924 to '35. After royal restoration and being an integral Ally in World War II, Greece again fell into chaos during the Cold War as nationalists and communists fought in the Greek Civil War. A new republic in 1975 turned to quasi-socialism, joining the EU in 1981 and receiving massive


Readers Comment Mike commented on 2012-06-29 09:05:55 ~ I actually believe the Central powers were the good guys but had Greece joined them they would have simply faced the same fate. Defeat.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-06-29 09:37:20 ~ It doesn't follow at all, king Constantine's action could have changed the course of the war andlead to the war continuing in Nov. 1918 and Germany not accepting Wilson's armistice. No Salonika Front = no collapse of Bulgaria under American influence, no collapse of AH and no threat to Constantinople. Wilson now has problems - the offensive of 1919 brings what he wants to avoid - casualties. In OTL these became an issue at senate hearings. The whole of Germany's strength can be deployed in the west. Max does not become Chancellor. Lloyd-George is getting jumpey.He doesn't want casualties. But now Wilson has problems, being at war with small countries like Greece does not look good for the image of just being at war against "Prussian Militarism" and he now faces the problemofre-election for a third term, which he wants. Wilson now rushes to make a much fairer armistice with Germany, Lloyd-George is annoyed, but not too so as his advisors tell him Britasin cannot afford more US. loans. Versaille peace which is more equal.

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2012-06-29 09:59:29 ~ I am 100,000 words into a novel with a similar premis -- in this one, Venizelos, probably history's oiliest hypocrite and liar, never gets the chance to burn down Salonika in 1916, because he was, ahem, arrested for treason.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2012-06-29 12:29:59 ~ Sounds interesting. I hope you get it complrtrd and published.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-06-29 14:14:23 ~ Very cool, Mr. Brin! How far forward from the POD in that TL do you go? About the Ottomans: Constantinople might not be threatened, but the Allies had rolled them up practically to Syria. And if Wilson has his stroke as in OTL, the Republicans will handily win and contribute to an armistice.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-06-29 17:50:34 ~ Let us know when you get it done, Mr. Brin!




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Charles Stuart Parnell had lived to see Irish Home Rule? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the July 2012 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1926, on this day Irish landlord, nationalist political leader, land reform agitator, and the founder and leader of the Irish Parliamentary Party Charles Stewart Parnell (pictured) died just weeks short of his eightieth birthday.

Strong to the point of weaknessA vigourous spokesman for Parliamentary nationalism in Ireland between 1875 and 1891 he was eventually brought down by a scandalous extra-marital affair with Katharine O'Shea. Prime Minister, H. H. Asquith, described him as one of the three or four greatest men of the nineteenth century, while Lord Haldane described him as the strongest man the British House of Commons had seen in one hundred and fifty years. Despite these patronising statements from the British political class, the Irish author James Joyce was far closer to the mark when he described Parnwell as " Strong to the point of Weakness". For example, as a matter of principle he chose to marry O'Shea immediately her divorce was granted and just before a crucial by-election.

Having taken Irish Home Rule inside what Victorians would describe as "the sphere of practical politics", he was at the zenith of his popularity considered an "uncrowned King". And yet Joyce's observation marked a deeper flaw, his stubborn unwillingness to extend the franchise or contemplate any form of irregular warfare. In his later years, he would be forced to watch a new generation of leaders such as Michael Collins take the necessary ruthless steps forward to seize devolved power from the British. Locked in a Victorian gentleman's system of thinking, he was by then a sad distant figure out of time living in a brutal era of Civil War where ironically Home Rule was finally achieved through methods he could not force himself to countenance.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2012-06-12 01:02:38 ~ How brutal an era are we talking about?

Readers Comment Rurri Heakin commented on 2012-06-12 01:13:31 ~ Yes, history is moving against him.

Readers Comment Robbie Taylor commented on 2012-06-12 01:51:31 ~ The empire under Victoria was a horrific disaster for virtually every conquered nation she ruled - not least of which was poor, betrayed Ireland.

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Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-06-12 12:33:55 ~ It was indeed. The problem is that if Parnell lives does it make the split in the Nationalist party worse? It became divided into pro and anti Parnell factions over what we would regard today as a minor private matter of the affair with Mrs. O'Shea.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2012-06-12 14:00:06 ~ Excellent point by Mr. Taylor. Too bad the gilding of the age could not go deeper.

Readers Comment Rurri Heakin commented on 2012-06-13 01:04:17 ~ Past is another country, however I think its mistake to view Parnell, as anything other than slightly constitutional. He was willing to work with the hillside men. In this fact he is not different from Collins, Dev, or Haughey. However what is moving against him is the spirit of the times. Ireland is going through the devotional revolution. Sooner or later the Irish are going to lose patience with an Anglo Irish landlord.

Readers Comment Jared Myers commented on 2012-06-13 02:41:36 ~ One has to wonder if Parnell had lived 'til 1926, who would have held more sway over Irish politics from 1916 to 1922? Parnell or de Valera?

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-06-13 03:29:36 ~ I well remember James Joyce's story about "Ivy Day in the Committee Room"...where the cynical Irish politicians are reduced to tears by the memory of their fallen king...Parnell. Joyce, of course, also wrote "Finnigans Wake"...meaning "Fenians, Awake!" and he counted on Parnell's memory to help awaken them. How much more inspiring the fallen king might have been if he had actually been alive at the time.

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2012-06-13 06:05:30 ~ With Parnell alive and in charge of the Home Rulers, does the Easter Uprising happen? I can see why he was against "irregular warfare"---that did nothing but get good Irishmen killed.

Readers Comment Richard Roper commented on 2012-06-13 07:16:54 ~ Collins, DeValera (I take it that is who you mean by Dev) and Haughey WERE the Hillside Me. If parnell is still around thw whole equations change. Will Parnell hold the Nationalist party together around him over his affair and marriage? If he does he will have much more authority than John Redmond as well as much more clout with the British Liberal government. You are not up against Anglo-Irish landlordsbut the British Empire, as James Connoly told the American members of the IRB on one famous occasion.

Readers Comment David Tenner commented on 2012-06-13 07:16:54 ~ We would be spared a bad poem by Yeats. (Or at least Yeats would later regard it as a bad poem and would exclude it from his collected poems.)

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2012-06-13 07:16:54 ~ Comment from Pete Barrett on Discussion Groups - Yeats was right!

Readers Comment Todayinah Ed. commented on 2012-06-13 07:16:54 ~ t's by-election not bi-election. A bi-election would be half an election. A by-election is a irregular nonmainstram local- specific election, in the same way a by-law is an irregular nonmainstream local-specific law. - JGH Fixed - thanks

Readers Comment Jackie Rose commented on 2012-06-13 13:59:53 ~ Yeats, write a bad poem about the Irish rebels, David? NEVER! I have his complete works on hand so please tell me the name of the poem you had in mind. If he thought it was a bad poem...well that might just show how modest he was.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the Hanoverian connection with Great Britain prevented the unification of Germany? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the June 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1867, on this day a romantic German nationalist assassinated Prince Albert the recently installed putative head of the British-sponsored North German League that arose from Otto Von Bismarck's failed unification project.

Assassination of Prince Albert
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With Habsburg Austria facing imminent defeat, Central Europe was on the verge of Prussian domination - but for a last minute Hanoverian appeal for British protection. When all of Protestant Germany except Saxony followed suite, British and French intervention became inevitable.

A conference of the three powers established a North German League under the protection of Great Britain and a South German League of four Catholic states under the protection of Austria and France, a Rhineland state under Napoleon III's son as a separate crown and a permanent three power league to uphold the peace.

The Konig refused to contemplate a suicidal war. With his unification plans in tatters, the legacy of Bismarck would be limited to the creation of a social security/welfare state. And so it was left to a real romantic nationalist to punish Great Britain for crushing German aspirations for a unified state, a "Reich" if you will.


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Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-06-12 19:43:54 ~ Geez, and you grumble about my treatment of Hirohito.... :D

Readers Comment H. Torrance Griffin commented on 2011-06-12 20:49:35 ~ Shooting the British Consort is not the optimal way to get started on such a project, but a united Germany that is not "Prussia-writ-Large + Vassals" could turn out better in the long run. Of course an effectively trialist state could have it's own problems getting together....

Readers Comment Scott Palter commented on 2011-06-12 22:42:31 ~ On reflection Wilhelm would still be Konig in this ATL and would never become Kaiser

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-06-12 23:47:38 ~ I see you took my idea and ran with it. How did Albert become head of the North German League---is this the TL where Victoria was assassinated?

Readers Comment Stan Brin commented on 2011-06-13 05:57:16 ~ Is this Albrecht of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha? Or another. I personally doubt that the consort of Queen Victoria would leave her side for a minute. A more logical choice would be a member of the Royal Family. Hannover, as we all know, became separated from the British crown only when Victoria ascended the throne -- something about the damned Salic Law. I also seem to remember there being more than two dozen German states at this time.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-06-13 17:50:11 ~ A major shift! With limited (if any) Franco-Prussian War, French front in World War I, or conquest of France in WWII, France may just be the biggest winner of this TL.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if the events portrayed in "Land Of The Giants" really happened? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the May 2011 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

In 1983, on this day U.S. Navy Lt. Commander Alexander B. Fitzhugh was committed to Bethesda Naval Hospital's psychiatric ward after an incident in which he accosed the pilot of a London-bound United Airlines jet and urged the jet's flight crew to turn around "before it's too late".

Giant Surprise
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When later questioned by hospital psychiatrists what that remark meant, Lt. Cmdr.

Fitzhugh claimed that on a previous flight to London his plane had been drawn into a time-space rift and crash-landed in what he described as "a land of giants" populated by people ten times the size of a normal human being. Initially his doctors regarded his story as a delusion resulting from the post-traumatic stress disorder Fitzhugh had suffered since serving a grueling tour of duty in Vietnam 25 years earlier; however, when three of the commander's fellow passengers came forward with similar accounts of the rift Fitzhugh had described, the staff of Bethesda began to think maybe their patient wasn't so delusional after all.


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Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2011-05-05 03:41:39 ~ Don't know _Land of the Giants_ well enough to comment...it was a little bit before my time. And shouldn't it be "normal" human being, or do you mean someone in a conical helm with a nasal bar, wearing a hauberk and riding a horse? *grin* Fixed - thanks. Ed

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2011-05-05 15:32:57 ~ Will we be able to establish trade or one conquer the other?

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2011-05-06 01:02:36 ~ That remains to be seen... Incidentally, the date of 6/12/83 wasn't entirely a random choice on my part as the starting point this thread; it's an allusion to the original Land Of The Giants series pilot, which lists June 12th, 1983 as the day the Spindrift first crashes on the giants' homeworld.




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if Israel had lost the Six-Day War? Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s). This story was published in the December 2010 edition of Changing the Times Magazine.

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In 1967, speaking in Brooklyn, NYC on this day a representative of the Israeli Government-in-Exile issued a stark warning to the Arab States that had conquered the Jewish nation ~ further nuclear bombings should be expected after the previous day's detonation at the Port of Alexandria.

Nuclear Masada by Ed, Scott PalterThe third Arab-Israeli War had begun with the devastating pre-emptive Egypt aerial offensive which destroyed the Israeli Air Force on the ground. Israel never recovered momentum from the loss of decisive air supremacy at the beginning of combat operations, despite a last minute air lift by the US Government following the unprovoked Arab assault on the USS Liberty.

From the pivotal moment when the IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Dayan was executed in Tel Aviv, it was determined (in Dayans own prophetic words) that the "Third Temple Had Fallen1". The surviving Israeli leadership responded by executing a desperate end-game plan: a nuclear masada, aptly named after the biblical siege in which Jewish defenders had committed mass suicide rather than endure capture by the Romans.

Setting aside the original plan to detonate the weapons in the face of the invading Arab armies, instead "the boys were let loose2". Nuclear weapons were smuggled onto submarines in the mediterranean, the first surfaced on June 11th in Alexandria, the largest seaport in Egypt.


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Todayinah Editor Editor says, in the 1969 alternate history "If Israel Lost the War" by Richard Z. Chesnoff, Edward Klein and Robert Littell, Israel was defeated in the Six Day War, Sirhan Sirhan went home to share in his people's victory celebrations, and Robert Kennedy passed unscathed through the kitchen of The Ambassador Hotel and went on to be elected President. In this variant, we modify some of the points of divergence in that famous story.
1) Dayan was allegedly about to make this announcement in 1973 at a low point in Israeli fortunes during the Yom Kippur War
2) Golda Meir allegedly made this announcement after the assassination of Israeli athletes in Munich, dispatching undercover Mossad officers to secretly kill PLO agents.


Readers Comment David Atwell commented on 2010-11-28 01:40:04 ~ The research here could have been better. Dayan ordered that the dozen or so nukes Isreal had were to be placed on the Jericho missiles. Needless to say Isreal would not have waited, until being overrun, before the nukes had done their thing. Instead the capitals of both Egypt & Syria would have been nuked, along with ten other targets throughout the Middle East. in an attempt to ensure Isreal would have survived such an invasion. Alas that probably would have prompted nuclear retailiation by the USSR, which would have ensured WWIII take place. In doing so the nuclear holocaust, that would have followed, would have seen both the USSR & USA destroyed along with hundreds of millions of people.

Facebook Comment Comment from Margo Barotta on Facebook: interesting article ,if she lost the war, then she will not be today ,but that didnt happen .

Facebook Comment Comment from Alex Galindoon Facebook: Impossible ..........

Facebook Comment Comment from Tony Erobame Facebook: Arabs would have been in total control. Moreover, the balance of power would have shifted dangerously.

Readers Comment Chris Oakley commented on 2010-11-28 01:41:52 ~ Funny you should post this now...I just finished reading "If Israel Lost The War".

Facebook Comment Comment from Enrico Emilitri on Facebook: Probably we haven't had several problems!

Facebook Comment Comment from Alex Galindo on Facebook: The Time of the six day war was predicted in the Scriptures since the beginning of time and it started the count-down back in Nov. 29 1947 when the commandment to restore went out , UN restitution #181 to establish the Nation of Israel : that started the timing of Daniel's time line for the end of this world as we know it

Facebook Comment Comment from Margo Barotta on Facebook: interesting article ,if she lost the war,then she will not be today ,but that didnt happen

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-11-28 15:34:39 ~ And of course, in our history, the "unprovoked assault on the USS Liberty" came from the Israelis, who not only attacked the U.S. warship but fired on surviviors in the water, provoking the most serious U.S.-Israeli breach since the 1956 Suez crisis.

Readers Comment Jeff Provine commented on 2010-11-28 22:30:22 ~ If the nukes were used to hold hostages, it would utterly destroy all international faith in Israel, but they're doomed anyway in this TL. Politically, the best move might be to disengage and start afresh. Florida?




Todayinah Editor Editor says, what if a screen writers strike on the set of Magnum, P.I.. enabled Tom Selleck to take up the role from Paramount Pictures? muses Zach Timmons. The idea of Sting playing Deckard was from Arlena Arteaga Kelly. Please note that the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the views of the author(s).

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In 1981, on this day the American action-adventure film "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark" premiered in cinemas across the United States. Directed by Steven Spielberg and produced by George Lucas, the movie starred Tom Selleck (pictured) in the leading role.

Tom Selleck plays Indiana Jones 2Due to his critical success in the role, Selleck was briefly considered for the part of Rick Deckard in the movie "Blade Runner". Unable to make the transition to a role with more dramatic depth, he failed the screen audition miserably.

Director Ridley Scott then turned to the surprise choice of English actor Gordon Sumner (known as Sting) who had auditioned well for the part of the replicant Roy Batty. His on-screen intensity delivered the part of Fayd Rautha in the 1984 movie "Dune" followed by a string of other movies in the SciFi mileau.


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Facebook Comment Comment from Marie Barney on Facebook: ...hmmm..I personally still cannot see Tom as Indy..to tall for the era, eyes not intense enough n voice to playful..lol..even if there was a writers strike..what would Selleck prioritise??

Readers Comment Eric Oppen commented on 2010-05-26 06:27:35 ~ I don't know---a lot depends on a good director and script. Selleck might have been able to pull it off.

Readers Comment Eric Lipps commented on 2010-05-26 11:27:39 ~ "Too tall for the era"? The movie's set in 1938, not 1538.


On this day in 1940, Allied ground forces entered Holland with only minimal resistance from the Wehrmacht; with German occupation forces in Holland preoccupied by the Dutch anti-Nazi uprising it took nearly 36 hours for Wehrmacht troops to begin their counterattack, and by then British and French artillery units were within shelling range of German defensive positions outside Rotterdam and Eindhover.

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On this day in 1967, Israeli troops began withdrawing from Cairo under the terms of the peace pact that ended the Sinai War.                                                                                  

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Am I Not a Man

In 1838, the British Parliament passes the Slavery Act, outlawing involuntary servitude throughout the British Empire. Riots erupt in every Southern colony of British North America.

The violence is far worse than that of the Sovereignty Crisis of six years earlier, which, despite the efforts of zealots in South Carolina, had been limited to that colony.

Am I Not a Man  - and a Brother?
and a Brother?

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On this day in 1982, Four Horsemen charter member Ric Flair and his manager J.J. Dillon challenged Enforcers members Tommy Rich, Ken Patera, and Bret Hart to a six-man tag team match at the following week's NWA TV taping against Flair, Barry Windham, and a mystery partner whose identity would be revealed later.

Jim Cornette immediately accepted the challenge, not realizing the mystery partner was Rich's former archnemesis Terry Funk.

Wildfire
Wildfire - Tommy Rich
Tommy Rich

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In 2000, something stirs in the rubble of the solar system.

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